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The Thames has been cleaned up, the open sewer beside it not so.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/politics/2011/feb/08/tory-funds-half-city-banks-financial-sector

Revealed: 50% of Tory funds come from City

Donations from the financial sector have risen steeply since David Cameron became leader of the Conservative party

The trickle-down theory in action.

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The Thames has been cleaned up, the open sewer beside it not so.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/politics/2011/feb/08/tory-funds-half-city-banks-financial-sector

Revealed: 50% of Tory funds come from City

Donations from the financial sector have risen steeply since David Cameron became leader of the Conservative party

No shock news there <_<

One of the key factors that has placed me firmly against the Conservatives all my life is the fact that they sell themselves under a brand identity that comes nowhere near describing what they actually are. They do not do what it says on the tin!

I've said it many times. It's very apt that the party name starts with con.

Edited by Nickolarge

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Tories still backed by big business, Labour still backed by the trade unions. That's why I always voted Lib Dem.

But ...now that the Lib Dems have turned their backs on their supporters and sided with the Tory big [attack on] society, Labour will get my vote for the first time ever

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Tories still backed by big business, Labour still backed by the trade unions. That's why I always voted Lib Dem.

But ...now that the Lib Dems have turned their backs on their supporters and sided with the Tory big [attack on] society, Labour will get my vote for the first time ever

Yes, Tories backed by big business, Labour backed by corrupt trades unions, and Liberals backed by no one.

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Tories still backed by big business, Labour still backed by the trade unions. That's why I always voted Lib Dem.

But ...now that the Lib Dems have turned their backs on their supporters and sided with the Tory big [attack on] society, Labour will get my vote for the first time ever

So you keep slotting coins into the fascist pinball machine.

I'm not slagging you off. I understand the party options are limited. But your vote makes a difference, just stop farting around with tactics.

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What a surprise...

Plus we've got Labour getting... what 80% of their funding from the unions.

The City, and the Public Sector have bought our Parliament, pure and simple. We are just slaves to them.

Tax and Debt revolt anyone? Its the only way.

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But the mess we are in is largely because of the city.

By robbing us and the rest of the world, they have become the defacto paymasters.

No Democracy, Socialism or Capitalism anymore, no left v right, no unions v business, no labour v conservative.

These pantomime characters are dragged out and dusted off. Keeping everyone thinking they have some sort of voice.

A wholescale takeover of government and democracy has happened without anyone noticing.

Using their p.r. chums as frontmen. You wonder why Osborne made the £800m(12% of Bonus) levy statement at the

exact same time this article appears.

We are just cattle to them, to be lied to, milked and asset striped for every penny.

Not just for the money but for the power, they get off on it.

Edited by Hywel Dda

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Revealed: 50% of Tory funds come from City

Donations from the financial sector have risen steeply since David Cameron became leader of the Conservative party

I imagine they think they will get good value! :huh::blink:

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The Thames has been cleaned up, the open sewer beside it not so.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/politics/2011/feb/08/tory-funds-half-city-banks-financial-sector

Revealed: 50% of Tory funds come from City

Donations from the financial sector have risen steeply since David Cameron became leader of the Conservative party

And Labour give tax money to the Unions (Modernisation projects or whatever they were called) and the Unions give it back to Labour. At least there is more transparency with the Tories.

And most of the Labour MPs who lost their seats have got jobs with the banks, so they are all as bad as each other.

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Recently someone posted a thread about the Meritocracy Party. I have written here at HPC numerous times regarding some easy-to-grasp, easy-to-implement ways to make democracy function better - reducing if not removing the importance of parties (Tory, Labour, Liberal even Meritocracy) altogether. Didn't see any of my ideas mentioned so - Meritocracy Party - you might like to give 'em a whirl*).

Money talks but good sense walks. The means by which our national and local affairs are run (candidates from politicial power blocks, first past the post, etc) was not and is not determined by the proactive, enthusiastic adoption of fairer and smarter ideas, it was and remains to be determined by a peculiarly British form of corruption stemming from violent mediaeval land monopolisation, designed to sedate and discourage the average Joe.

Our political system has settled into a steady state of only two electable parties. Until the vested interests whom this cosy situation serves are done away with (yeah right) that's going to be your lot.

Look at the way Mubarak used plain clothes police to beat up protestors in Tahrir Square. You think the UK Govt is beyond that?

*Implementing such ideas would make political parties redundant, so if the Meritocracy Party was ever in a position to implement them would be a test of their true colours.

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Tories still backed by big business, Labour still backed by the trade unions. That's why I always voted Lib Dem.

But ...now that the Lib Dems have turned their backs on their supporters and sided with the Tory big [attack on] society, Labour will get my vote for the first time ever

New Labour were well supported by big business when they got in. Do you think it was mere coincidence that the first thing they did was the 1998 Bank of England Act?

The Tories obviously receive more backing now because they made better promises to the elites

http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2011/feb/07/tax-city-heist-of-century?#post-area

Labour will just need to promise to screw taxpayers harder and pass even more of their money to the elites if they want more donations.

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Yes, Tories backed by big business, Labour backed by corrupt trades unions, and Liberals backed by no one.

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And nobody lobbies for the silent majority, for the general national interest.

We need a funding system that would free the parties from their current backers, and re-direct the parties towards the general population.

The best system for that would be tax-funded, proportional to each parties' votes. Just around £1 per vote would probably be enough. For instance, if 20 million people vote, £20 million is distributed to the parties, proportionally to votes.

That would "re-focus" our political parties priorities and policies, towards the voters.

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And nobody lobbies for the silent majority, for the general national interest.

We need a funding system that would free the parties from their current backers, and re-direct the parties towards the general population.

The best system for that would be tax-funded, proportional to each parties' votes. Just around £1 per vote would probably be enough. For instance, if 20 million people vote, £20 million is distributed to the parties, proportionally to votes.

That would "re-focus" our political parties priorities and policies, towards the voters.

+1. And it would give a chance to non-mainstream parties. In that environment full PR would make sense too.

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Tories still backed by big business, Labour still backed by the trade unions. That's why I always voted Lib Dem.

But ...now that the Lib Dems have turned their backs on their supporters and sided with the Tory big [attack on] society, Labour will get my vote for the first time ever

(In round numbers) Government tax revenues are around £550bn/year, and expenses around £700bn/year. A shortfall ("deficit") of £150bn/year.

We are still borrowing these £150bn/year, adding it to the total national debt, currently at £900bn.

The coalition just want to gradually reduce this annual shortfall, and balance the books by the end of this parliament.

The LibDems are doing the right thing. Actually, they had no option.

If Labour had won, they would have had to do exactly the same. No options really.

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Perhaps politicians should be exclusively paid for out of tax revenue. No donations at all.

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http://www.housepricecrash.co.uk/forum/index.php?showtopic=159178&view=findpost&p=2888054

+1. And it would give a chance to non-mainstream parties. In that environment full PR would make sense too.

Yes, exactly, that too.

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And nobody lobbies for the silent majority, for the general national interest.

We need a funding system that would free the parties from their current backers, and re-direct the parties towards the general population.

The best system for that would be tax-funded, proportional to each parties' votes. Just around £1 per vote would probably be enough. For instance, if 20 million people vote, £20 million is distributed to the parties, proportionally to votes.

That would "re-focus" our political parties priorities and policies, towards the voters.

My only worry about that is that it might make life even harder for smaller parties and independents. However, on balance it sounds better than what we've currently got. Breaking the link between big business and government is of tantamount importance for a democracy to be democratic. Business stills needs to be supported of course, but only to the extent that that benefits the general population. A concern there (so maybe the first wasn't my only worry) is that that could turn rather too union-like - there would still be a lot of pressure on the government to support a failed business if it's large enough and letting it fail would result in too many job losses (instead of some lost bonuses).

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My only worry about that is that it might make life even harder for smaller parties and independents. However, on balance it sounds better than what we've currently got.

I think it would make life easier for smaller parties. They get virtually nothing now.

Breaking the link between big business and government is of tantamount importance for a democracy to be democratic. Business stills needs to be supported of course, but only to the extent that that benefits the general population. A concern there (so maybe the first wasn't my only worry) is that that could turn rather too union-like - there would still be a lot of pressure on the government to support a failed business if it's large enough and letting it fail would result in too many job losses (instead of some lost bonuses).

That is unlikely, as I've read polls in the past showing that more than 60% of British voters have reasonably centrist political views, with small left and right wings minorities. Whilst the current "bi-polar" system is... centrifuge.

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