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Too Fat For Ambulances?

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http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-12353243

Every service in the UK has started buying specialist equipment, data from freedom of information requests show.

This includes wider stretchers, more lifting gear and reinforcing existing vehicles.

Many have also bought specialist 'bariatric' ambulances - costing up to £90,000 each - to ferry the most obese.

Said 90k a pop for a bigger ambulance.

Oldham is thinking about a fat tax on takeaways....

http://www.google.com/hostednews/ukpress/article/ALeqM5iqnZ9yy1CdSP5eUtvR0gRxP89WqA?docId=N0510991296652090900A

Should the NHS do more to help people get thinner?

Should GPs have "fat clubs" ?

Weight watchers et al charge about £5 a week to attend a meeting - would it be better for people to attend a similar style thing run at a GP practice? Perhaps issue the overweight with "prescriptions"?

Yes there'd be a cost at first but the savings would be as huge as the possible weight loss.

A healthier, thinner population is cheaper to care for.

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Should the NHS do more to help people get thinner?

Should GPs have "fat clubs" ?

Weight watchers et al charge about £5 a week to attend a meeting - would it be better for people to attend a similar style thing run at a GP practice? Perhaps issue the overweight with "prescriptions"?

Yes there'd be a cost at first but the savings would be as huge as the possible weight loss.

A healthier, thinner population is cheaper to care for.

I think they should... after all they do with smoking which similarly costs the NHS in the longer term.

Which makes me wonder what the obesity equivalent to the smoking ban would be?

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I think they should... after all they do with smoking which similarly costs the NHS in the longer term.

Which makes me wonder what the obesity equivalent to the smoking ban would be?

Maybe we should weigh folks and introduce a BMI tax, the fat must be made to pay for their inconsiderate life styles

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Difference is the smokers more than pay for their fair share of NHS services unlike alcohol or food through the taxes levied on the fags.

If alcoholics drank petrol instead they would make a much larger contribution

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Difference is the smokers more than pay for their fair share of NHS services unlike alcohol or food through the taxes levied on the fags.

Slap a 60% tax on food that's bad for you... Oh wait isn't that most processed food?

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http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-12353243

Every service in the UK has started buying specialist equipment, data from freedom of information requests show.

This includes wider stretchers, more lifting gear and reinforcing existing vehicles.

Many have also bought specialist 'bariatric' ambulances - costing up to £90,000 each - to ferry the most obese.

Said 90k a pop for a bigger ambulance.

Oldham is thinking about a fat tax on takeaways....

http://www.google.com/hostednews/ukpress/article/ALeqM5iqnZ9yy1CdSP5eUtvR0gRxP89WqA?docId=N0510991296652090900A

Should the NHS do more to help people get thinner?

Should GPs have "fat clubs" ?

Weight watchers et al charge about £5 a week to attend a meeting - would it be better for people to attend a similar style thing run at a GP practice? Perhaps issue the overweight with "prescriptions"?

Yes there'd be a cost at first but the savings would be as huge as the possible weight loss.

A healthier, thinner population is cheaper to care for.

Just like the 60 stone guy who featured on the documentary recently imho anyone who gets to these massive weights is mentally ill and needs to be sectioned for their own good.

The NHS/ social care system seems to be all about managing conditions rather than intervening and solving the problem at an early stage.

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The NHS/ social care system seems to be all about managing conditions rather than intervening and solving the problem at an early stage.

How much would it cost to equip and manage a gym (with classes?)

Less than the cost of one ambulance?

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How much would it cost to equip and manage a gym (with classes?)

Less than the cost of one ambulance?

but can you make people attend, i know they could get a free big mac if they do some star jumps

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How much would it cost to equip and manage a gym (with classes?)

Less than the cost of one ambulance?

Agreed however the problem with the massive obese imho is much more a mental health one than a lack of exercise facilities.

The whole thought process of " I feel fat and hate myself so i'll have a pack or two of biscuits to cheer myself up" is the problem that needs to be addressed. ;)

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Just charge per mile if they have to use it.

Plus anyone who does have to use it has to be lifted in by a manual jack pallet lifter.

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but can you make people attend, i know they could get a free big mac if they do some star jumps

Refuse them benefits until they attend on a regular basis and get good reports from staff.

(I'm assuming lard buckets are on the sick/dole/incapacity, but apologies to any lard buckets who need a special size ambulance to get to hospital but manage to keep a job)

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Agreed however the problem with the massive obese imho is much more a mental health one than a lack of exercise facilities.

The whole thought process of " I feel fat and hate myself so i'll have a pack or two of biscuits to cheer myself up" is the problem that needs to be addressed. ;)

Maybe that too needs addressing but unless they get thinner and fitter the sheer cost of moving the blubber about needs sorting out.

Maybe we need fat camps where people can get counselling, managed diet and exercise until they are healthy again.

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Difference is the smokers more than pay for their fair share of NHS services unlike alcohol or food through the taxes levied on the fags.

So fatties don't pay tax on alcohol or rubbish food? smokers should pay more, there are far more complications from smoking than being overweight

Do motorcyclists pay a special NHS premium for their dangerous hobby? rock climbers? Should people planning on having kids pay more tax to fund their "tax credits" when the little turd pops out?

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Refuse them benefits until they attend on a regular basis and get good reports from staff.

(I'm assuming lard buckets are on the sick/dole/incapacity, but apologies to any lard buckets who need a special size ambulance to get to hospital but manage to keep a job)

don't apologise, they only exist in the 'bloated' public sector in non-jobs.

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Maybe that too needs addressing but unless they get thinner and fitter the sheer cost of moving the blubber about needs sorting out.

Maybe we need fat camps where people can get counselling, managed diet and exercise until they are healthy again.

What about the 'feeders'?

Several documentaries have shown patients with at least one family member in need education and counselling.

Wasn't it 'The world's fattest teenager' whose mother had lost her first son, yet kept telling the TV crew that she didn't want to lose another, whilst overfeeding the poor kid. :blink:

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If it wasn't for the intervention of social welfare/ benefits etc. there would be no such thing as morbidly obese. They would not be able to afford all that food and therefore naturally lose weight to a level where by they could go out and earn money to buy the food. As it is, they are given a free ticket to sit at home in their especially designed and donated beds and get fed and looked after. Yeh I know this sounds like a daily mail rant, but seriously i'm sick of paying for this shit in a ******ed up society where no-one is accountable for their own actions, planning (lack of) or lifestyle.

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I think they should... after all they do with smoking which similarly costs the NHS in the longer term.

Which makes me wonder what the obesity equivalent to the smoking ban would be?

I've always been of the opinion that we should encourage smoking and junk food.

The extra money society pays for medical treatment (and most people die of something expensive regardless of whether they smoke or eat junk food) is more than balanced by the saving on winter fuel allowances and pensions that don't have to be paid.

It would also reduce pressure on the housing stock.

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I've always been of the opinion that we should encourage smoking and junk food.

The extra money society pays for medical treatment (and most people die of something expensive regardless of whether they smoke or eat junk food) is more than balanced by the saving on winter fuel allowances and pensions that don't have to be paid.

It would also reduce pressure on the housing stock.

You might want to consider the idea of knocking flu jabs on the head too. Didn't flu have the nickname 'old person's friend' at one time?

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You might want to consider the idea of knocking flu jabs on the head too. Didn't flu have the nickname 'old person's friend' at one time?

I thought that pneumonia was the 'old man's friend'. Just a vage memory from the Harvey Moon TV series when Harvey bought some black market penicillin for his mother.

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I thought that pneumonia was the 'old man's friend'. Just a vage memory from the Harvey Moon TV series when Harvey bought some black market penicillin for his mother.

Is it a better route than dementia, physical incapacity or something else that'll jump out on you as you age?

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