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This is really related to one of the threads in the main forum. In any case.... I have just sent two e-mails, one to Midlothian and another to Edinburgh council, asking for a list of employees earning over £50k, listed in salary bands, under the Freedom of Information Act. I thought this would be a good thing to do to see where your monies go, and also to see how many are getting overblown salaries, perhaps contributing to a propping up of house prices in the area.

Has anybody tried similar? I will post my results as and when I receive them.

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I have a bit of a problem with this kind of request. On the face of it it seems interesting enough, but with all these Freedom of Information Act requests, the govt must need to employ several people a year just to handle them.

Can I ask - what will you do with this information. How can you tell that if someone is getting more than 50,000 their salary is overblown?

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I have a bit of a problem with this kind of request. On the face of it it seems interesting enough, but with all these Freedom of Information Act requests, the govt must need to employ several people a year just to handle them.

I don't see why. A receptionist could accept the requests and forward them onto the relevant department (in this case HR).

I'd be interested to see the same numbers for Glasgow and South Lanarkshire.

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No reply whatsoever from Midlothian council yet - BUT I HAVE RECEIVED THE RESULTS FROM EDINBURGH COUNCIL! Here you go:

Wage Grouping Number of Staff in Wage Group

10 £50000 - £55000 111

11 £55001 - £60000 101

12 £60001 - £65000 20

13 £65001 - £70000 17

14 £70001 - £75000 15

15 £75001 - £80000 5

16 £80001 - £85000 1

17 £85001 - 90000 2

18 £90001 - £95000 6

19 £95001 - £100000 14

20 £120001 - £125000 4

21 £140001 - £145000 1

22 Total 297

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No reply whatsoever from Midlothian council yet - BUT I HAVE RECEIVED THE RESULTS FROM EDINBURGH COUNCIL! Here you go:

Wage Grouping Number of Staff in Wage Group

10 £50000 - £55000 111

11 £55001 - £60000 101

12 £60001 - £65000 20

13 £65001 - £70000 17

14 £70001 - £75000 15

15 £75001 - £80000 5

16 £80001 - £85000 1

17 £85001 - 90000 2

18 £90001 - £95000 6

19 £95001 - £100000 14

20 £120001 - £125000 4

21 £140001 - £145000 1

22 Total 297

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No reply whatsoever from Midlothian council yet - BUT I HAVE RECEIVED THE RESULTS FROM EDINBURGH COUNCIL! Here you go:

Wage Grouping Number of Staff in Wage Group

10 £50000 - £55000 111

11 £55001 - £60000 101

12 £60001 - £65000 20

13 £65001 - £70000 17

14 £70001 - £75000 15

15 £75001 - £80000 5

16 £80001 - £85000 1

17 £85001 - 90000 2

18 £90001 - £95000 6

19 £95001 - £100000 14

20 £120001 - £125000 4

21 £140001 - £145000 1

22 Total 297

Just to be annoying, I reckon that's not too bad, definite 60K barrier there. Having lived in Cumbria, which has a similar population to Edinburgh, but has 6 district councils and 1 county council supplying services, I was always reading about multiple posts of 80K+ plus at each of those seven administrations. I bet edinburgh, being unitary, is more efficient when it comes to the number of "high head yins".

Did they tell you which job titles these cover (I guess not). i.e. does it include yer sysadmins running the council tax databases etc , 'cos the IT brigade on here wouldn't turn up for less then 80K if you believe what they post...

PS How many of them will go with the 1200 job cuts ECC has just announced? The ones that make the decisions at the top will have protected themselves I bet...

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No reply whatsoever from Midlothian council yet - BUT I HAVE RECEIVED THE RESULTS FROM EDINBURGH COUNCIL! Here you go:

Wage Grouping Number of Staff in Wage Group

10 £50000 - £55000 111

11 £55001 - £60000 101

12 £60001 - £65000 20

13 £65001 - £70000 17

14 £70001 - £75000 15

15 £75001 - £80000 5

16 £80001 - £85000 1

17 £85001 - 90000 2

18 £90001 - £95000 6

19 £95001 - £100000 14

20 £120001 - £125000 4

21 £140001 - £145000 1

22 Total 297

So basically the Chief Executive is on around £150k-entirely expected an in line with similar jobs like University Vice Chancellor, Chief Constable etc.

Couple of others over £100k-finance director etc?

Seems like the heads of the various depts are on 95-100k. Not unexpected since many have budgets of >£100million to manage.

Few IT types will be on good money.

I am more surprised at the number (200) on 50-60k. They won't be senior management.

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Exactly - a lot of people on good money - that's at least 200 big houses I wont be touching! ;)

Southampton City Council has 236,700 people...

Southampton City Council have 234 staff on over 50k , these are a few examples.

Edinburgh CC has 474,000 people in its area and 305 employees over 50k

Looks like they're fairly restrained really...

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Exactly - a lot of people on good money

True-although 300 people on >£50k is a drop in the ocean of high earners in Edinburgh.

Government stats state there are around 30,000 people earning £50k+ so council employees make up about 1% of this!

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30k+ people earning more than £50k in Edinburgh!? I'm SCREWED lol.........

Finally got a list from Midlothian council:

50,000 to 55,000 30

55,001 to 60,000 13

60,001 to 65,000 8

65,001 to 70,000 5

70,001 to 75,000 3

75,001 to 80,000 1

80,001 to 85,000 1

85,001 to 90,000 0

90,001 to 95,000 3

95,001 to 100,000 0

101,001 to 105,000 1

65 employees on £55K or more

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Don't you think the soaring Edinburgh housing prices has far more to do with the lure of the financial industry and the subsequent move of many English from the SE than it does council jobs?

Of course now that banks like RBS have more or less been nationalised these insane salaries may well be ending as well.

Yes, Edinburgh is still expensive compared to the rest of Scotland, but that trend seems to be changing rather quickly, and it's not because the local council is cutting jobs.

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I don't see why. A receptionist could accept the requests and forward them onto the relevant department (in this case HR).

I'd be interested to see the same numbers for Glasgow and South Lanarkshire.

Receptionists are people too!

Besides when I'm talking about "handling the request" I mean the whole process of processing it, finding out the info and replying. In total it probably took 2-4 man-hours to process. Of course whether that time is wasted or not depends on your point of view - if you planned to do nothing with the info then it's wasted, but since it was put on a public forum, arguably it's not wasted.

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Most of the council employees earning over 50K are headteachers, which is hardly outrageous. The Chief Exec is on £160K, which is a lot better value than university principals, given the city has a £1 billion budget and can cause a lot of damage to a lot of people.

If you think about the typical pay of an experienced chartered accountant, it seems reasonable. Let alone the bankers!

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Most of the council employees earning over 50K are headteachers, which is hardly outrageous. The Chief Exec is on £160K, which is a lot better value than university principals, given the city has a £1 billion budget and can cause a lot of damage to a lot of people.

If you think about the typical pay of an experienced chartered accountant, it seems reasonable. Let alone the bankers!

Do they really count teachers in these figures?

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aye, teachers are employed by their local council

Yes but I wonder if they count in the council's salary figures. I would not be surprised if they were not counted-has anyone checked?

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Yes but I wonder if they count in the council's salary figures. I would not be surprised if they were not counted-has anyone checked?

I don't think he got that much detail back

But they won't be excluded. They are directly employed by edinburgh city council, no arms-length nonsense.

here's the website, includes adult learning, nurseries, libraries etc as well

http://www.edinburgh.gov.uk/info/827/education_and_learning

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There are more than 100 primary schools and 26 secondary schools under ECC (non dom plus RC schools).

The smallest Primary School's heads will be on slightly less than £50k but the majority will be over it - a head at a large primary like Sciennes or Bruntsfield will be on about £80k.

All of the secondary school heads and probably most of their deputes will be over £50k.

So it doesn't look like that many of the actual "council" staff are earning over £50k.

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