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I have visions of them opening their pay packets by wrestling with it for a while, going to get some scissors, failing, then having all the coins bursting forth all over the floor.

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I have visions of them opening their pay packets by wrestling with it for a while, going to get some scissors, failing, then having all the coins bursting forth all over the floor.

:D Had to read that a 2nd time before my penny dropped.

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Interesting story on one show just now. Boy in Leeds has been out of work for 6 months. Taken him to a woolen mill for a day. Speaking to the boss. He actually moved his factory out to Eastern Europe but brought it back a few years ago as the benefits were not as great over there as at first.

However having serious trouble getting workers. Had lots of staff turnover. Spoke to head of plant. Many people start and then give up after 2 or 3 days. Main reasons are the noise (They do get earplugs) and having to stand all day. Money was not great but was above minimum wage. He thinks many just want a cushty job sitting down.

Spoke to owner again. Says he is almost regretting bringing factory back as they just cant get the staff. Will take people on with zero experience too. Have space and orders to put a huge new machine in. However without the workers they just cant do the job.

Seems the lad in question quite liked it though and starts for good today.

Just adding another side to the never ending 'There are no jobs in the UK' chat we here on HPC.

It is bad out there - however it is not that bad.

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Interesting story on one show just now. Boy in Leeds has been out of work for 6 months. Taken him to a woolen mill for a day. Speaking to the boss. He actually moved his factory out to Eastern Europe but brought it back a few years ago as the benefits were not as great over there as at first.

However having serious trouble getting workers. Had lots of staff turnover. Spoke to head of plant. Many people start and then give up after 2 or 3 days. Main reasons are the noise (They do get earplugs) and having to stand all day. Money was not great but was above minimum wage. He thinks many just want a cushty job sitting down.

Spoke to owner again. Says he is almost regretting bringing factory back as they just cant get the staff. Will take people on with zero experience too. Have space and orders to put a huge new machine in. However without the workers they just cant do the job.

Seems the lad in question quite liked it though and starts for good today.

Put through the HPC cynicism translator:

Those greedy pole, were not willing to be paid 2p a day, so I moved it back and I'm surprised that people don't have me arm off for £5.93 an hour.

Whenever an industry says they are crying out for workers, they mean they want cheaper workers. Accountancy was apparently super short staffed at the start of the 00s. What they meant is we want cheaper staff, Outsourcing and fierce competition for jobs means that fully qualified accountants (have a look on Reed if you don't believe me) are paid £13000-23000 a year.

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Put through the HPC cynicism translator:

Those greedy pole, were not willing to be paid 2p a day, so I moved it back and I'm surprised that people don't have me arm off for £5.93 an hour.

Whenever an industry says they are crying out for workers, they mean they want cheaper workers. Accountancy was apparently super short staffed at the start of the 00s. What they meant is we want cheaper staff, Outsourcing and fierce competition for jobs means that fully qualified accountants (have a look on Reed if you don't believe me) are paid £13000-23000 a year.

I am not gonna get into this again. Already done about 50 pages of it !!

Just pointing out there are jobs available out there if people want to work. Whether they pay enough or whatever is a separate debate. I just want to put the 'There are no jobs out there in the UK' chat to bed. It is nonsense.

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I am not gonna get into this again. Already done about 50 pages of it !!

Just pointing out there are jobs available out there if people want to work. Whether they pay enough or whatever is a separate debate. I just want to put the 'There are no jobs out there in the UK' chat to bed. It is nonsense.

There are a few jobs out there, what you have to remember when you are on low wages you cannot afford to travel far, something funny if he cannot get foreign workers to fill the jobs.

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There are a few jobs out there, what you have to remember when you are on low wages you cannot afford to travel far, something funny if he cannot get foreign workers to fill the jobs.

Who knows. Was in Leeds. No shortage of people there. And I doubt they are up to any serious dodgy stuff - seeing as they volunteered to go on TV !!

Looked like a pretty shitty job. I think that is enough to put most people off.

Maybe the East europe population in Leeds is not as high as elsewhere? Or maybe the Eastern Europeans in the area manage to find better work ?

I don't know. I don't think the guy was making it up though.

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I am not gonna get into this again. Already done about 50 pages of it !!

Just pointing out there are jobs available out there if people want to work. Whether they pay enough or whatever is a separate debate. I just want to put the 'There are no jobs out there in the UK' chat to bed. It is nonsense.

Hey you're preaching to the choir here, I didn't spend 6 months peeling potatoes washing bogs, washing dishes cleaning up porno sets. Fixing cars, cleaning air conditioning etc. To deny this... I've been there done that..

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Seemed like a nice enough lad and I hope it works out for him. Same thing happened with the trades Ken, I gave up fitting bathrooms and heating when there was a front page shortage of plumbers and two a penny courses. Pricing for jobs was never the same again... it went from £175 a day to £75-100 day rate and even then the poles undercut at £40-50 a day.

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Hey you're preaching to the choir here, I didn't spend 6 months peeling potatoes washing bogs, washing dishes cleaning up porno sets. Fixing cars, cleaning air conditioning etc. To deny this... I've been there done that..

You sound like you've done as many shitty jobs as I have. :D

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Just pointing out there are jobs available out there if people want to work.

People do not 'want' to work- work is just a means to an end- what people want is to benefit from their labour.

If this guy can't get people to work for him, why does he not increase his offer- that is, after all, how this game is supposed to be played.

Why is it that when employers ship jobs overseas to gain the benefit of cheap labour that is defined as a morally neutral act- but when workers choose to avoid being exploited suddenly everyone's talking about 'morality"?

'People don't want to work' says the guy paying shite wages. :lol: If he doubled his wages, would they 'want' to work then? I suspect they might.

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My favourite job was sucking up the bad chips off a conveyor belt of potato chips with a powerful (and very noisy) vacuum at a McCains chip factory. Stuck it for about 8 months! I was totally brain dead at the end. Never recovered.

Pah, that's nothing.. I had a deafening factory job at Nacanco (they canned up Pepsi + Castlemain XXXX) that involved scaling rickety scaffolding and watching a sea of un-lidded cans flow past, and hook out cans that had imperfect tops.. the jostling nature of the cans caused static build up, and hooking each one was met with a static shock. One shock every few seconds, times 8 hours got boring fast. They even got the hump when I had my lunch in the car park rather than their canteen.. to add insult to injury I don't think I even got paid for it due to agency **** ups.

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My favourite job was sucking up the bad chips off a conveyor belt of potato chips with a powerful (and very noisy) vacuum at a McCains chip factory. Stuck it for about 8 months! I was totally brain dead at the end. Never recovered.

Holy shit. Nice work hanging on for 8 months.

Pah, that's nothing.. I had a deafening factory job at Nacanco (they canned up Pepsi + Castlemain XXXX) that involved scaling rickety scaffolding and watching a sea of un-lidded cans flow past, and hook out cans that had imperfect tops.. the jostling nature of the cans caused static build up, and hooking each one was met with a static shock. One shock every few seconds, times 8 hours got boring fast. They even got the hump when I had my lunch in the car park rather than their canteen.. to add insult to injury I don't think I even got paid for it due to agency **** ups.

Nice work. :D

My worst was picking Persimmons off the vine. Horrendous. You basically had to walk along with you neck squint at an angle upwards. Whilst walking along and picking. Only job I have ever given up within a matter of hours. It was actually painful !!

Also did bee keeping once for a few days. That was quite decent though but a bit painful too. Quite enjoyed it though. Feist wee things. Especially when you change their Queen (This involves squishing the existing one to death - :o)

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I was in the ice cream factory. Stood on a platform 3 foot off the ground with a chute down from the factory on one side and the conveyer into the freezing machine on the other. The tubs of partially frozen ice cream would be sent down the chute and the job was to transfer them onto the freezer conveyer. Two 3 litre tubs in each hand at a time. Tubs that came down the chute with the lids off would explode everywhere. They gave us raggedy overalls the sleeves of which kept getting caught in the wire racks of the conveyer and when that happened you had to hit the emergency stop to avoid getting dragged into the machine - a 20 metre long beast that could turn liquid to ice in minutes. It was alright as a student but I'd hate to be there now but I'd do it if I really had to.

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I think this is a good thing.

Isn't the whole point that a £200,000 house is actually worth about £50,000 and that would actually encourage local kids to think about working hard in something tangible at fairly low pay but drive them to try and better themselves??

Ken - that would make your 13-20k wage look fairly good.

Trouble is -we have become addicted to money in imaginary numbers. Ergo inflation.

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I did a week agency work at a limestone paving manufacturer , around 5 hours of the day was spent carrying the moulds full of limestone goo to the racks where they hardened.In the morning you would then have to pop out the dried things , each weighed maybe 4-5 kilos and the machine made around 500-600 per day.Other jobs included washing thwe moulds in a hydrochloric acid bath.

Never done it myself but worked with a guy who spent time as a watermelon picker whilst backpacking.The truck rolls past at 4km/h and you have to pick up the watermelons and put them in it.Hard to imagine anything worse than that all day.

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