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http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1351537/The-10-families-costing-1m-state-handouts.html

Ten families in England are sharing an astonishing £1million a year in housing benefits, it emerged last night.

The huge sums being lavished on the families by the taxpayer are allowing them to live in streets normally reserved for millionaires.

Five of the families are receiving the maximum payment of £2,000 per week.

It is the first proof that George Osborne was correct when he claimed some households were receiving sums in excess of £100,000 a year.

Last night, the Chancellor told the Daily Mail: ‘It is precisely this kind of shocking waste of public money under the previous Labour government that led to Britain’s debt problems.

‘We are bringing an end to this by putting a cap on the total amount of benefit that a family can receive so the days of £100,000 housing benefit claims are gone.’

The Coalition triggered a furious reaction last year when it unveiled plans to cut the top rate of housing benefit to £400 a week. Chris Bryant, the Labour justice spokesman, said the cuts would lead to ‘social cleansing’, with 200,000 people forced out of the capital.

The Mayor of London, Boris Johnson, also spoke of a ‘Kosovo-style’ exodus.

Critics even questioned whether Mr Osborne could back his claim that some families were in receipt of six-figure annual sums.

But Freedom of Information replies received by this newspaper show there are at least ten families in London sharing a £1million housing benefit bill between them.

For those expecting an exodus would there really be demand for all this empty housing?

As for social justice what about those who are working on low wages subsidising these people in luxury housing were is the fairness in that? I'm guessing that these people receiving this benefit aren't working, so if they are getting the maximum and they are poorly educated and have no job skills just what sort of a job are they going to get what can fund rent at £2000 per week?

The housing benefit office should publish full details of the numbers receiving what level of benefit.

I'd be interested to know in a Wail moral outrage stylee who many of these families are immigrants, one suspects that's is what the Wail is hinting at with the photo in the article, whether that is the case is another matter.

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The small print in the box by the article is a shocker - the rent was set at £1050 a week but it became £2000 a week when the benefit claimants moved in - the maximum allowed under the rules. So Brent council no doubt thought great, let's get them off our books by shunting them somewhere else, and the landlord no doubt thought fantastic, Christmas has come early - this year and every year. Even if they end up trashing it that's an extra £950 a week in rent, so £90,000 a year extra for the LL. That'll cover some redecorating later, in a tax-exempt sinking fund.

Shame the Wail don't mention who really benefits from this - phuqing landlords laughing all the way to the bank.

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Shame the Wail don't mention who really benefits from this - phuqing landlords laughing all the way to the bank.

Yep, they benefit, but I wouldn't say they're the ones to blame.. That'd be the idiots that allowed it to happen.

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Who 'receives' this benefit and why?

There's total contradictory thinking here- on the one hand the tories want to prop up the cost of housing, and on the other complain when that cost is reflected back in the cost of renting.

Why don't they just re home these people in council houses at near zero cost to the taxpayer?

Because they sold off all the council housing the last time they were in power- idiots.

It's not the tenants who get the HB cash- it's the BTL landlords who benefit.

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I love the way that toilet paper vilifies people on benefits while ignoring the real villains in this world. The real crime is the gap between incomes and prices and the over inflation of housing, all of which are symptoms of a criminally unfair monetary system.

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Didn't Westminster say there were 50 families receiving the top benefit level of LHA?

No. When the Daily Telegraph asked them in October last year, they said that there were only three.

'Housing benefit reform: A toxic battleground':

http://www.telegraph...ttleground.html

The Daily Telegraph contacted all 33 local authorities in London, the only part of the country where families can claim £2,000 per week, to check the figures.

In the 24 boroughs that responded, which include the two most expensive, three families claim £2,000 per week (all of them in Westminster), while only five of the councils that responded had families claiming more than £1,000, amounting to 168 families. Another 3,618 families in 15 boroughs claim more than £500 per week.

So while Mr Osborne is right in saying there are families claiming £104,000 per year, the numbers are tiny compared with the 4.5 million families nationwide who receive housing benefit.

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I can name several families that cost us more than this each.

The Royal family.

MP's with second homes and expenses.

Anyone seriously rich who avoids tax.

Any of the bankers who is due to get a million in wages and bonus.

Lets tackle the corruption at the top before we pick on those at the bottom, after all the poor are only following the example of their leaders.

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It is not just the landlords who benefit. There was a recent case where one of these 10 was somehow getting paid £16k a year into a secret account from an unknown source.

What benefit these 10 bring to the UK is not clear. They should be deported if they are not British citizens.

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I can name several families that cost us more than this each.

The Royal family.

MP's with second homes and expenses.

Anyone seriously rich who avoids tax.

Any of the bankers who is due to get a million in wages and bonus.

Lets tackle the corruption at the top before we pick on those at the bottom, after all the poor are only following the example of their leaders.

What a stupid argument. Childish naivety. Or do you really believe that two wrongs make a right?

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Lets tackle the corruption at the top before we pick on those at the bottom, after all the poor are only following the example of their leaders.

We could turn Buck House into council flats. The old lady who lives there can't afford to heat it anyway.

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While we have a hereditary monarchy, with special legal status and privileges, and supported by the taxpayer despite having vast wealth of its own, I can't get too worked up about benefit scroungers.

having said that, i think the Queen has earned her medals as 'honorary president', since she has spent the last 57 years carrying out exactly what the nation expected of her in 1953 !!!

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The small print in the box by the article is a shocker - the rent was set at £1050 a week but it became £2000 a week when the benefit claimants moved in - the maximum allowed under the rules. So Brent council no doubt thought great, let's get them off our books by shunting them somewhere else, and the landlord no doubt thought fantastic, Christmas has come early - this year and every year. Even if they end up trashing it that's an extra £950 a week in rent, so £90,000 a year extra for the LL. That'll cover some redecorating later, in a tax-exempt sinking fund.

Shame the Wail don't mention who really benefits from this - phuqing landlords laughing all the way to the bank.

.. until the day the housing benefit claim is shown to be fraudulent in court and THEY have to pay ALL that lovely income back

of course this never happens due to the absolute self evident inherent honesty of everybody who makes a housing benefit claim

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We could turn Buck House into council flats. The old lady who lives there can't afford to heat it anyway.

The queen did apply for help in heating her home- but was advised this might be seen as a bit of a PR disaster, so the claim was dropped.

The Queen asked ministers for money to heat Buckingham Palace from a fund reserved for low-income families, it has been revealed.

Royal aides pleaded for the cash as they claimed gas and electricity bills had risen by more than 50 per cent in a year - totalling more than £1million.

They complained that the £15million government grant to cover the Queen's palaces was inadequate and her energy bills had become 'untenable'.

The money would have come from £60million of energy-saving grants reserved for cash-strapped families, housing associations and hospitals.

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1314446/The-Queen-pleads-poverty-help-Buckingham-Palace-heating-bill.html#ixzz1CSod5Bo9

No trough is too low to escape their attention it seems.

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What a stupid argument. Childish naivety. Or do you really believe that two wrongs make a right?

Except the benefits claimants aren't actually doing anything wrong, they are living within the system set down by the government. Do I agree with the way the system is no.

It is completely wrong to pillory them living within the system when some of those I listed deliberately lied and cheated to get money. So it isn't two wrongs make a right is it, it is pick on those who are least able to defend themselves to distract from the massive crimes of those at the top.

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I can name several families that cost us more than this each.

The Royal family.

Tourism brings in more than we pay them

Anyone seriously rich who avoids tax.

What are they costing you ?

Any of the bankers who is due to get a million in wages and bonus.

Do we not want the billions they pay in tax every year, and contribute to a very large percentage of our GDP ?

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The queen did apply for help in heating her home- but was advised this might be seen as a bit of a PR disaster, so the claim was dropped.

Read more: http://www.dailymail...l#ixzz1CSod5Bo9

No trough is too low to escape their attention it seems.

"Jan/2011

A law that took effect yesterday makes Queen Elizabeth II, Prince Charles, and Prince William exempt from freedom of information laws, meaning many details of their activities won’t be public for decades.

Justice Secretary, Bilderberg, Ken Clarke said the exemption will protect the monarch’s private conversations with politicians and officials... "

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While we have a hereditary monarchy, with special legal status and privileges, and supported by the taxpayer despite having vast wealth of its own, I can't get too worked up about benefit scroungers.

5 words

President Anthony Charles Lynton Blair.

'nuff said.

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You are assuming that we have the right to say who lives here, this is now under the control of the EU. Human rights innit, The free money is why these refugees pass through France and other countries to get to here. Where else would you get to live for free near Paul McCartney in a multi-million pound mansion and have breakfast delivered for free. Refugees are supposed to take refuge in the first safe country IIRC but the benefits are not high enough ... how many countries are there between Somalia and UK.

I have no problem with looking after political refugees who are nationals from our neighbours; France, Belgium, Holland, Norway etc

to add the real criminals are the councils etc that allow this money to be paid to the LLs, the one that really annoys is the property where the rental increased from £1,000 to £2,000 per week as soon as it was occupied by people who paid 'their' rent using benefits.

You are, of course, talking almost complete ********.

Refugees tend to favour:

a) Countries where they know people, or where there is already a significant ex-pat community.

B) Countries whose language they speak.

Think about it for a minute. If you suddenly had to leave the UK and had friends in, say, Australia, where would you go out of choice? France, where you know nobody and don't speak the lingo, or Australia, even if it is on the other side of the world.

Potential benefit payments usually come way down the list of priorities.

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Tourism brings in more than we pay them

That might just be true if they didn't own half the country (but they do)

The value denied to the rest of us because of their status, entirely and completely dwarves their value to us as a fairground attraction

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with housing benefits, you have to bear in mind that the occupants dont really get the money - it all goes to the landlord at the end of the day.

private landloards are being subsidised by the state.

cut benefits, this will cut rents, this will cut prices.

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I can name several families that cost us more than this each.

The Royal family.

MP's with second homes and expenses.

Anyone seriously rich who avoids tax.

Any of the bankers who is due to get a million in wages and bonus.

Lets tackle the corruption at the top before we pick on those at the bottom, after all the poor are only following the example of their leaders.

I an think of hundres of thousands/ nay millions, who cost us more than your list.

They are called poor people, whose contribution to our Nation is zero. They are takers. They sponge from the day they are born, claiming free healthcare, education, housing, benefits of every description and upon their death even have their cremation paid for by the State.

Before you go pointing your finger, take a close look around you.

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You are, of course, talking almost complete ********.

Refugees tend to favour:

a) Countries where they know people, or where there is already a significant ex-pat community.

B) Countries whose language they speak.

Think about it for a minute. If you suddenly had to leave the UK and had friends in, say, Australia, where would you go out of choice? France, where you know nobody and don't speak the lingo, or Australia, even if it is on the other side of the world.

Potential benefit payments usually come way down the list of priorities.

This assumes they travel direct (to the UK) from the Country they are requesting asylum from!!

The first safe Country they reach is obliged to offer them sanctuary. If refugees cross to the UK from Germany or France they can be returned to thus as these Countries are deemed safe. The trouble is there is no political will to do so.

I have no problem with genuine cases needing sanctuary but hey lets not have the piss taken out of us.

Yet many of them risk life and limb trying to climb on lorries crossing the channel to get here in the knowledge they will be sent back if found before embarkation or at Dover.

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That might just be true if they didn't own half the country (but they do)

The value denied to the rest of us because of their status, entirely and completely dwarves their value to us as a fairground attraction

I don't think even Stewart Lee could have put it better. ;)

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