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No chance of an Interest rate rise now what with GDP falling.

The fall might be "unexpected" and "due to the weather" but as night follows day the response will be to keep Interest rates at an all time low.

I think we are headed for financial oblivion. Apart from house prices of course. They will probably hold up, for gawd sake. :rolleyes:

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No chance of an Interest rate rise now what with GDP falling.

The fall might be "unexpected" and "due to the weather" but as night follows day the response will be to keep Interest rates at an all time low.

I think we are headed for financial oblivion. Apart from house prices of course. They will probably hold up, for gawd sake. :rolleyes:

Inflation on the cost of living will stop house prices rising, and the difficulty in getting credit., and of curse increasing unemployment................ but oblivion is on the horizon.

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No chance of an Interest rate rise now what with GDP falling.

The fall might be "unexpected" and "due to the weather" but as night follows day the response will be to keep Interest rates at an all time low.

I think we are headed for financial oblivion. Apart from house prices of course. They will probably hold up, for gawd sake. :rolleyes:

Given the number of people predicting interest rates at zero a year before it happened was less than one, it seems pretty pointless predicting what they might be this time next year, a shock took them to 0 , another shock could take them to 10 just as quicky or they could just stay at zero or not

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A possible IR hike has already generated alot of MSM coverage. I doubt that amongst reporting of today's news, the reduce likelihood of an IR hike will get featured as much. Yes, it's all sentiment, but how many cheaper mortgage deals have been pulled in the last week?

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No chance of an Interest rate rise now what with GDP falling.

The fall might be "unexpected" and "due to the weather" but as night follows day the response will be to keep Interest rates at an all time low.

I think we are headed for financial oblivion. Apart from house prices of course. They will probably hold up, for gawd sake. :rolleyes:

Probably. At least until the next GDP numbers, in 3 months time.

Unless inflation goes too high meanwhile.

The VAT increase should push inflation even higher. Then, if in 3 months we have another weak GDP number, and high inflation, then sterling should fall even more. This should push imported goods/commodities prices up (including energy and food), pushing inflation higher still. We could have a nasty storm ahead.

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Interest rate reductions have NOT helped the UK economy - in fact I believe it has had the opposite effect... why am I saying that ?

1). People reliant on interest from savings have had their income slashed, so will not be able to spend the same to stimulate the economy.

2). Low interest rates make the UK NOT an attractive place to invest.

3). Low interest rates reduce the value of sterling so all our imports cost more - including energy, fuel.

4). The BOE is more interested in a short term fix (ie a "consumer led recovery" based on yet more borrowing !) than tackling inflation - their mandate.

5). Low interest rates have slowed down the crash in the housing market, but won't stop prices falling off a cliff eventually. If house prices halved from where they are, people

would actually be able to move and first time buyers could get a foothold in the market. This in turn would result in joiners, electricians, builders getting MORE work as people

improved their property instead of trying to save for a deposit for an overpriced property.

The BOE will not increase rates because they simply do not know what they are doing - a bit like a chimp being given an atom bomb to defuse !

I believe the decision will be taken out of their hands as sterling devalues and inflation really takes off - forget the governments CPI (conned price index !) - REAL

inflation for things we NEED must be pushing 10% now and will increase as the effect of a weak £ takes hold.

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No chance of an Interest rate rise now what with GDP falling.

The fall might be "unexpected" and "due to the weather" but as night follows day the response will be to keep Interest rates at an all time low.

I think we are headed for financial oblivion. Apart from house prices of course. They will probably hold up, for gawd sake. :rolleyes:

I don't think that very many people here were counting on the MPC putting up rates voluntarily, any time soon.

The situation remains as it was before - near zero rates until market forces intervene to force them to rise.

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Probably. At least until the next GDP numbers, in 3 months time.

Unless inflation goes too high meanwhile.

The VAT increase should push inflation even higher. Then, if in 3 months we have another weak GDP number, and high inflation, then sterling should fall even more. This should push imported goods/commodities prices up (including energy and food), pushing inflation higher still. We could have a nasty storm ahead.

I fear you are right - batten down the hatches.

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No chance of an Interest rate rise now what with GDP falling.

The fall might be "unexpected" and "due to the weather" but as night follows day the response will be to keep Interest rates at an all time low.

I think we are headed for financial oblivion. Apart from house prices of course. They will probably hold up, for gawd sake. :rolleyes:

£ is falling. all imported goods will increase the inflation ...

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I don't think that very many people here were counting on the MPC putting up rates voluntarily, any time soon.

The situation remains as it was before - near zero rates until market forces intervene to force them to rise.

Its getting that way. UK inflation is coming under worldwide attention.

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No chance of an Interest rate rise now what with GDP falling.

The fall might be "unexpected" and "due to the weather" but as night follows day the response will be to keep Interest rates at an all time low.

I think we are headed for financial oblivion. Apart from house prices of course. They will probably hold up, for gawd sake. :rolleyes:

What is the difference between 0.5 and 1% when the going rate is/will be min 5% plus fees..... ;)

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Interest rate reductions have NOT helped the UK economy - in fact I believe it has had the opposite effect... why am I saying that ?

because you have absolutely no experience or qualification in any relevant discipline?

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Interest rate reductions have NOT helped the UK economy - in fact I believe it has had the opposite effect... why am I saying that ?

1). People reliant on interest from savings have had their income slashed, so will not be able to spend the same to stimulate the economy.

2). Low interest rates make the UK NOT an attractive place to invest.

3). Low interest rates reduce the value of sterling so all our imports cost more - including energy, fuel.

4). The BOE is more interested in a short term fix (ie a "consumer led recovery" based on yet more borrowing !) than tackling inflation - their mandate.

5). Low interest rates have slowed down the crash in the housing market, but won't stop prices falling off a cliff eventually. If house prices halved from where they are, people

would actually be able to move and first time buyers could get a foothold in the market. This in turn would result in joiners, electricians, builders getting MORE work as people

improved their property instead of trying to save for a deposit for an overpriced property.

The BOE will not increase rates because they simply do not know what they are doing - a bit like a chimp being given an atom bomb to defuse !

I believe the decision will be taken out of their hands as sterling devalues and inflation really takes off - forget the governments CPI (conned price index !) - REAL

inflation for things we NEED must be pushing 10% now and will increase as the effect of a weak £ takes hold.

No rate rise. Osborne (We're all in this together) insists on special treatment for Mortgagees and Debtors irrespective of the collateral damage.

Backing away from the measures would lead to higher costs for mortgage holders and those in debt, he told BBC Radio 4.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/economics/8280664/George-Osborne-budget-cuts-keep-down-interest-rates.html

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Ah - to fix or not to fix. That is the question.

I was looking at NW earlier, 5 yr fix for under 5%. Seemed good but maybe it's worth waiting some more? Who knows.

Expensive house at a low IR or a cheap house at a high one. Which costs more? ;)!

Depends how much above BoE base rate the tracker is. Personally, I'd rather just wait for prices to drop so my capital debt is lower, that's what's really important.

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Ah - to fix or not to fix. That is the question.

I was looking at NW earlier, 5 yr fix for under 5%. Seemed good but maybe it's worth waiting some more? Who knows.

Expensive house at a low IR or a cheap house at a high one. Which costs more? ;)!

Cheap house every time. Overpay each month and you're mortgage free in 10 years.

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Ah - to fix or not to fix. That is the question.

I was looking at NW earlier, 5 yr fix for under 5%. Seemed good but maybe it's worth waiting some more? Who knows.

Expensive house at a low IR or a cheap house at a high one. Which costs more? ;)!

neither, it's a tautology between IRs and economic growth

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Interest rate reductions have NOT helped the UK economy - in fact I believe it has had the opposite effect... why am I saying that ?

1). People reliant on interest from savings have had their income slashed, so will not be able to spend the same to stimulate the economy.

2). Low interest rates make the UK NOT an attractive place to invest.

3). Low interest rates reduce the value of sterling so all our imports cost more - including energy, fuel.

4). The BOE is more interested in a short term fix (ie a "consumer led recovery" based on yet more borrowing !) than tackling inflation - their mandate.

5). Low interest rates have slowed down the crash in the housing market, but won't stop prices falling off a cliff eventually. If house prices halved from where they are, people

would actually be able to move and first time buyers could get a foothold in the market. This in turn would result in joiners, electricians, builders getting MORE work as people

improved their property instead of trying to save for a deposit for an overpriced property.

The BOE will not increase rates because they simply do not know what they are doing - a bit like a chimp being given an atom bomb to defuse !

I believe the decision will be taken out of their hands as sterling devalues and inflation really takes off - forget the governments CPI (conned price index !) - REAL

inflation for things we NEED must be pushing 10% now and will increase as the effect of a weak £ takes hold.

Agree with your points. To some extent base rates are already less of a factor than rising inflation and static wages.

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quite right too - there why should we want to dampen non existent internal inflation?

A weakening external value of the Pound internalises inflation pretty quickly.

Even for the indebted, this is a cost as wages are now set globally and not locally.

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