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Anyone else seen this?

http://www.bbc.co.uk...e_Under_Attack/

It's full of Masonic crap.

They keep their Temples to the North empty because they say it represents Darkness and Ig-nor-ance

Science has ICE in it - also one of the first books they show is Darwin's Origin of Species.

It's a deliberate stab/piss-take out of your ignorance by one of the so-called 'enlightened'

(Darwin was on the ship 'Beagle' (a dog/god backwards) when he conjured his crap up! The Masonic Scottish rite emblem is a double-headed (B-ald)eagle) (ALD-erman)

Studied at Scottish Edinburgh Uni too!

The Journalist 'denier' he interviews has ---POLE in his surname - more 'witty' piss-taking!

Look at the road sign after he gets in black cab to Nasa Space centre - craftily shows "get in lane ICE"

You then get the full on Global Warming (the OCCULT opposite of Cold/ICE) ******** - he says deniers are cherry picking about 10 times during the show supporting Royal Society group think and Peer reviewing - to the detriment of all else!

Keeps going on how "Scientists are under attack from the public" - how dare they have the temerity to question what a Scientist says or releases into our environment

(more often than not for a Big Business that doesn't give a shit about the Earth - just exploiting it and it's inhabitants!)

He then goes and buys a large ICEcream with the bloke with aids - just to rub in his fascistic superior intelligence and Xtra knowledge.

Da do ron ron!

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Anyone else seen this?

Da do ron ron!

Hmmm.. well-fed person (Thanks to biology and applied genetics) uses computer (which only works due to the application of quantum mechanics amongst other theories) whilst sitting in a heated room (Thanks to geology and geophysics) whilst enjoying products made from a variety of plastics (Thanks be to chemistry) transported from all over the world (Petrochemistry and applied mechanics) safe in the knowledge that he/she has a very good chance of living to a decent age without dropping dead from one of many viral and bacterial infections (Medicine and sanitation).

Said well-fed person denounces all science as an evil conspiracy.

Said well-fed person needs to research the meaning of the phrase 'screaming hypocrite'.

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What struck me was they kept repeating the same fallacy. That more C02 means more warming. Yet we know that there are many greenhouse gases. They often shout about how much worse methane is than C02. Thus in a pure methane atmosphere, adding C02 would decrease the greenhouse effect. If you double the amount of C02 you do not get double the greenhouse effect. If C02 were responsible for 1% of the greenhouse effect, doubling it would increase the effect by only 1%. By far the biggest greenhouse gas is water vapour. If you add more salt to water it becomes saltier, but not infinitely salty. You hit a saturation point where no more salt will dissolve. Perhaps the atmosphere is already as "Greenhousey" as it is ever going to get.

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What struck me was they kept repeating the same fallacy. That more C02 means more warming. Yet we know that there are many greenhouse gases. They often shout about how much worse methane is than C02. Thus in a pure methane atmosphere, adding C02 would decrease the greenhouse effect. If you double the amount of C02 you do not get double the greenhouse effect. If C02 were responsible for 1% of the greenhouse effect, doubling it would increase the effect by only 1%. By far the biggest greenhouse gas is water vapour. If you add more salt to water it becomes saltier, but not infinitely salty. You hit a saturation point where no more salt will dissolve. Perhaps the atmosphere is already as "Greenhousey" as it is ever going to get.

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Thus in a pure methane atmosphere, adding C02 would decrease the greenhouse effect.

Really? If you were to replace some of the methane with CO2 then maybe, but it's not clear to me what would happen if you were to add CO2 while leaving the amount of methane unaltered.

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What struck me was they kept repeating the same fallacy. That more C02 means more warming. Yet we know that there are many greenhouse gases. They often shout about how much worse methane is than C02.

Yes but doesn't rotting vegetable matter create methane?

How much methane was created during the reign of the dinosaurs where we now get all our coal from those former pits?

Humans account for 10% or less of co2 emissions lets not forget that.

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You hit a saturation point where no more salt will dissolve. Perhaps the atmosphere is already as "Greenhousey" as it is ever going to get.

Hmmm.

I would, however, note that after correcting for albedo (reflectiveness) and distance from the sun, Earth and Venus receive more or less the same amount of surface radiation, and package holidays to Venus are unlikely to take off in the near future.

More to the point, have you not considered that perhaps the people who spend their lives studying this subject have already thought of this?

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Yes but doesn't rotting vegetable matter create methane?

How much methane was created during the reign of the dinosaurs where we now get all our coal from those former pits?

Humans account for 10% or less of co2 emissions lets not forget that.

Purely out of interest, how do you feel about the attacks on Vaccines, GM foods, Evolution, the HIV/AIDS link, Nuclear power, etc?

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Hmmm.. well-fed person (Thanks to biology and applied genetics) uses computer (which only works due to the application of quantum mechanics amongst other theories) whilst sitting in a heated room (Thanks to geology and geophysics) whilst enjoying products made from a variety of plastics (Thanks be to chemistry) transported from all over the world (Petrochemistry and applied mechanics) safe in the knowledge that he/she has a very good chance of living to a decent age without dropping dead from one of many viral and bacterial infections (Medicine and sanitation).

Said well-fed person denounces all science as an evil conspiracy.

Said well-fed person needs to research the meaning of the phrase 'screaming hypocrite'.

You don't fool me!

I'm a slave like the majority of population.

I can't just go and cut down wood for heat if I wanted, build a taxed/rate free home where I wanted without permission from those that hoard it all.

Global Warming is Elitist Masonic ******** used to persecute the Earths population, Divide & conquer(thru Greeny brainwashing) and manipulate them further whilst you put in place your Global Govt.

The other side of the coin - why do you ONLY spell out some of the benefits of science (which involves slavery to pay for it all anyway)?

The Nobel peace prizes exist because of Nobels personal guilt when he realised that his new explosives invention could be used to kill and maim Millions of people - and he was right he's forever damned by his scientific invention.

Ditto

The Manhattan Project

Bobbio Oppenheimer "My God - What have we done"

"Isidor Rabi felt that the equilibrium in nature had been upset as if humankind had become a threat to the world it inhabited.

Robert Oppenheimer, though ecstatic about the success of the project, quoted a remembered fragment from the Bhagavad Gita. "I am become Death, the destroyer of worlds."

Ken Bainbridge, the test director, told Oppenheimer, "Now we're all sons of bitches."

You hypocritical bastards produce poisons, poison gasses, hideous explosive devices and machines designed to kill us en masse (most of the latest purposely designed to miam not kill)

Scientists/big business put chemicals in fridges that destroyed the OZ-ONE layer Okayed Asbestos production in houses and factories etc etc.

Scientists fiddle with food production & stuff which can have consequences you know nothing about further down the line!

The above are just 2 proofs which have cost Billions to clear up!

And you want us to let you fiddle genetically with our food?

I noticed Genetic food Monster, Monsanto recently bought out the company that makes Roundup - feckin great vampiric MONOPOLY that created!

So we need to weigh up Science, Scientists and their so-called 'beneficial advances' for society.

Is it for Society or their pay masters profits in Big Business?

But I don't care coz you are bringing true Biblical prophecy and you will be had up for it!

Can't wait! :D

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More to the point, have you not considered that perhaps the people who spend their lives studying this subject have already thought of this?

Ah the fallacy of "the appeal to authority" http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Argument_from_authority. This would be the same guy that told us in 1980 that his model was correct, when events didn't turn out like predicted, he said he must factor in more variables. Then in 1990 he gave us a new model, which was also wrong, never mind, there are still more variables to factor. Then in 2000 he gave us yet another model, with the same result and the same response. Yet we are supposed to believe him this time, that everything is now factored, that this time he is right. Fool me once, shame on you, fool me twice shame on me.

We are told that weather is not climate. Fair enough, trends in the long term may differ from those in the short. However they are not mutually exclusive. The long term pattern is simply the aggregate of the short term. We all know about the butterfly effect preventing predictions of the weather beyond a few days. That weather patterns are fractal in nature. Yet it is a property of fractals to be scale invariant. Thus if weather is fractal, so is climate. The same reasons given for the inability to predict short-term also applies to long term and all such models are destined to fail.

Such modelling is not science because it lacks testability. We have to wait many years to find out if they were right. Even if they get it right, we have to decide if they were right through correct modelling or through luck. With enough models, some are bound to be right. Their track record is such that one could achieve the same results by rolling a dice.

Suppose that back in the 15th century the people built a great fortress with cannons pointed at the sky. The purpose of this fort was to prevent demons materialising in the atmosphere. To date no such demons have materialised, thus proving the efficacy of the fort and providing a case for further funding. Perhaps it did work in scaring the demons off, or perhaps it worked simply because there are no flying demons.

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Ah the fallacy of "the appeal to authority" http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Argument_from_authority.

Quoth the raven wiki:

The second form, citing a source who is actually an authority in the relevant field, carries more subjective, cognitive weight. A person who is recognized as an expert authority often has greater experience and knowledge of their field than the average person, so their opinion is more likely than average to be correct. In practical subjects such as car repair, an experienced mechanic who knows how to fix a certain car will be trusted to a greater degree than someone who is not an expert in car repair. There are many cases where one must rely on an expert, and cannot be reasonably expected to have the same experience, knowledge and skill that that person has. Many trust a surgeon without ever needing to know all the details about surgery themselves. Nevertheless, experts can still be mistaken, wilfully deceptive, subject to pressure from peers or employers, have a vested financial interest in the false statements, or have unusual views (or views that are widely criticized by other experts) within their field, and hence their expertise does not always guarantee that their arguments are valid.

Of course, one distinctive part of the arguments of the anti science brigade is selective argumentation. Here, the simple observation of Venus is ignored - this being a relatively trivial observation of the real world - and instead a tirade is launched which does not actually address the question.

I really would like to know how your thought processes work here.. 'I'm going to ignore the real world observation, I'm not going to bother researching what atmospheric physics has to say on the subject of saturation and radiative transfer, I'm going to go off on a rant on a different tack'. Seriously, what is your game here?

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Ah the fallacy of "the appeal to authority" http://en.wikipedia....from_authority. This would be the same guy that told us in 1980 that his model was correct, when events didn't turn out like predicted, he said he must factor in more variables. Then in 1990 he gave us a new model, which was also wrong, never mind, there are still more variables to factor. Then in 2000 he gave us yet another model, with the same result and the same response. Yet we are supposed to believe him this time, that everything is now factored, that this time he is right. Fool me once, shame on you, fool me twice shame on me.

We are told that weather is not climate. Fair enough, trends in the long term may differ from those in the short. However they are not mutually exclusive. The long term pattern is simply the aggregate of the short term. We all know about the butterfly effect preventing predictions of the weather beyond a few days. That weather patterns are fractal in nature. Yet it is a property of fractals to be scale invariant. Thus if weather is fractal, so is climate. The same reasons given for the inability to predict short-term also applies to long term and all such models are destined to fail.

Such modelling is not science because it lacks testability. We have to wait many years to find out if they were right. Even if they get it right, we have to decide if they were right through correct modelling or through luck. With enough models, some are bound to be right. Their track record is such that one could achieve the same results by rolling a dice.

Suppose that back in the 15th century the people built a great fortress with cannons pointed at the sky. The purpose of this fort was to prevent demons materialising in the atmosphere. To date no such demons have materialised, thus proving the efficacy of the fort and providing a case for further funding. Perhaps it did work in scaring the demons off, or perhaps it worked simply because there are no flying demons.

Here's how you can tell 100% it's Scottish Rite Masonic (oCCult Skull-duGGery)

St Andrews- Salt-ire (The 'X' factor in HalifaX/HBOS banking)

They get the ignorant to worship - POP~Idols

Royal St Andrews Golf/flog club (The Masters - Win a Green jacket in usa!)

The "Greens" are the 'GOAL' you aim at on GOLF/FLOG courses. (Link this with Greeny Brainwashing and Global Warming/Climate Change Scam/macs - (heard USA Elites and Brown-Came-RON going on about CHANGE?)

(G-and-alf ) FLAG+DNA spelt 0ccultly backward by J.R.Tolkein!

'G' is the masonic symbol for their G-rand Architect on Masonic logo!

'PIN' the (SOOTY(Black-hole/Coalition) puppet meister) wind-up mason on HPC takes his name from it!

Ever heard of the Word "FAIR" being used by the Elites/Govt? "Fair Society" etc

Comes from their Fair-ways on Flog courses!

Links - chains of slave BONDage (Masonic Bankers enslave us with Bonds)

Irons (clubs) are the nick-name of slave bondage/chained in irons

Woods - "held up a stick of wood and beat ma over de head 'til he 'most kilt her"

Slave Narratives, Greene County, Georgia

Bunker - Rosicrucian icon Hitler died in one!

Also called a "sand trap". It is considered a haz-ard under the Rules of Golf.

Par - number of strokes for 'scratch'

Bogey - to pick ones nose

Albatross

A hole played three strokes under par. Also called a Double Eagle.

Double Eagle head is the Avatar of the Masonic Scottish Rite'All square' - masonic term

ApronThe grass surface on the perimeter of the green that separates it from the surrounding fairway or rough. Also known as froghair, or fringe.Masons wear Ap-rons to display their rank etc at temple meetings

BIGGA (BIG SOCIETY!!)

is the professional association in the United Kingdom dealing with all matters of golf management from a greenkeeper's viewpoint.

Caddy

A person, often paid, who carries a player's clubs and offers advice.She's a Kent area weather girl constantly 'idolised' by Masonic Puppeteers on the '2' Weather site!

etc etc

Then there are all the "DEGREES" each club head is set at!

And a million other connections! :P

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Here's how you can tell 100% it's Scottish Rite Masonic (oCCult Skull-duGGery)

St Andrews- Salt-ire (The 'X' factor in HalifaX/HBOS banking)

They get the ignorant to worship - POP~Idols

Royal St Andrews Golf/flog club (The Masters - Win a Green jacket in usa!)

The "Greens" are the 'GOAL' you aim at on GOLF/FLOG courses. (Link this with Greeny Brainwashing and Global Warming/Climate Change Scam/macs - (heard USA Elites and Brown-Came-RON going on about CHANGE?)

(G-and-alf ) FLAG+DNA spelt 0ccultly backward by J.R.Tolkein!

'G' is the masonic symbol for their G-rand Architect on Masonic logo!

'PIN' the (sweep puppet meister) wind-up mason on HPC takes his name from it!

Ever heard of the Word "FAIR" being used by the Elites/Govt? "Fair Society" etc

Comes from their Fair-ways on Flog courses!

Irons (clubs) are the nick-name of slave bondage

Woods - "held up a stick of wood and beat ma over de head 'til he 'most kilt her"

Slave Narratives, Greene County, Georgia

Bunker - Rosicrucian icon Hitler died in one!

Also called a "sand trap". It is considered a haz-ard under the Rules of Golf.

Par - number of strokes for 'scratch'

Bogey - to pick ones nose

AlbatrossA hole played three strokes under par. Also called a Double Eagle.

Double Eagle head is the Avatar of the Masonic Scottish Rite'All square' - masonic term

ApronThe grass surface on the perimeter of the green that separates it from the surrounding fairway or rough. Also known as froghair, or fringe.Masons wear Ap-rons to display their rank etc at temple meetings

BIGGA (BIG SOCIETY!!)

is the professional association in the United Kingdom dealing with all matters of golf management from a greenkeeper's viewpoint.Caddy

A person, often paid, who carries a player's clubs and offers advice.She's a Kent area weather girl constantly 'idolised' by Masonic Puppeteers on the '2' Weather site!

etc etcThen there are all the "DEGREES" each club head is set at!

And a million other connections! :P

Trying to have an intelligent debate with erranta is like trying to argue with a bowl of alphabet soup.

What makes sense to him in his head spills out into a meaningless splash of gobbledeygook.

You are not arguing with a rational person who can analyse anything in a reasoned, objective manner, nor express an argument that way . As soon as he spots what he thinks is a pun he will go off at a tangent into a private reverie of numberwang, meaningful only to himself.

Don't bother debating. It's like trying to find meaning in the collected words on a scrabble board.

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Here's how you can tell 100% it's Scottish Rite Masonic (oCCult Skull-duGGery)

St Andrews- Salt-ire (The 'X' factor in HalifaX/HBOS banking)

They get the ignorant to worship - POP~Idols

Royal St Andrews Golf/flog club (The Masters - Win a Green jacket in usa!)

The "Greens" are the 'GOAL' you aim at on GOLF/FLOG courses. (Link this with Greeny Brainwashing and Global Warming/Climate Change Scam/macs - (heard USA Elites and Brown-Came-RON going on about CHANGE?)

(G-and-alf ) FLAG+DNA spelt 0ccultly backward by J.R.Tolkein!

'G' is the masonic symbol for their G-rand Architect on Masonic logo!

'PIN' the (sweep puppet meister) wind-up mason on HPC takes his name from it!

Ever heard of the Word "FAIR" being used by the Elites/Govt? "Fair Society" etc

Comes from their Fair-ways on Flog courses!

Irons (clubs) are the nick-name of slave bondage

Woods - "held up a stick of wood and beat ma over de head 'til he 'most kilt her"

Slave Narratives, Greene County, Georgia

Bunker - Rosicrucian icon Hitler died in one!

Also called a "sand trap". It is considered a haz-ard under the Rules of Golf.

Par - number of strokes for 'scratch'

Bogey - to pick ones nose

AlbatrossA hole played three strokes under par. Also called a Double Eagle.

Double Eagle head is the Avatar of the Masonic Scottish Rite'All square' - masonic term

ApronThe grass surface on the perimeter of the green that separates it from the surrounding fairway or rough. Also known as froghair, or fringe.Masons wear Ap-rons to display their rank etc at temple meetings

BIGGA (BIG SOCIETY!!)

is the professional association in the United Kingdom dealing with all matters of golf management from a greenkeeper's viewpoint.Caddy

A person, often paid, who carries a player's clubs and offers advice.She's a Kent area weather girl constantly 'idolised' by Masonic Puppeteers on the '2' Weather site!

etc etcThen there are all the "DEGREES" each club head is set at!

And a million other connections! :P

It's all becoming so clear

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The second form, citing a source who is actually an authority in the relevant field, carries more subjective, cognitive weight.

But there are no authorities. If they were authorities then their models would not be constantly wrong. They know more about climate science than you or I, but not enough to make accurate predictions. You have assigned them the rank of expert, it is not something it is apparent from their errors that they are not.

Of course, one distinctive part of the arguments of the anti science brigade is selective argumentation.

I have spent many years building commercial computer models. I have a physics degree. I subscribed for years to science magazines. Does that make me anti-science, or does it make me a science fan? The ad-hominem attack simply tries to refute the message by attacking the messenger.

Here, the simple observation of Venus is ignored

I did not reply to previous comment on Venus, which is tendentious. Venus receives about twice the solar radiation than does Earth. You used the word "surface" to hide that fact knowing that Venus is clothed by a super thick atmosphere which does not exist on Earth.

Seriously, what is your game here?

Scepticism. Where once climate science was a backwater for a few academics, it is now a multi-billion dollar industry in research grants alone. Where such funds are at stake, motives must be questioned. Fortunately I have the background to be able to raise some issues. The accusation of cherry-picking is used by both sides. Whenever you get to "clean up" the data, it becomes trivial to clean it in such a way as support your position. That is what the E-mail leak scandal was all about.

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Trying to have an intelligent debate with erranta is like trying to argue with a bowl of alphabet soup.

What makes sense to him in his head spills out into a meaningless splash of gobbledeygook.

You are not arguing with a rational person who can analyse anything in a reasoned, objective manner, nor express an argument that way . As soon as he spots what he thinks is a pun he will go off at a tangent into a private reverie of numberwang, meaningful only to himself.

Don't bother debating. It's like trying to find meaning in the collected words on a scrabble board.

The Object of 'F-LOG' (Mason 'Lodge' 'BROWN "beaver" dam/MAD) - "planks in their eyes" biblicaLLy!!) is to get a flying globe/ball into a hole.

A globe with flying wings is the symbol of Egyptian mythology "winged sun-disk"

(also you are conned with the winged golden ball in Masonic Harry Potter Occult crap on a Broomstick "Quidditch" where the top golden ball (Egypt = winged sun-disk) sprouts wings!

The Pin, the stick in the hole on the Golf green is 'NIP' backwards.

Lob-sters (represents the illuminati/Elites) are the ones all wealth (represented by the flying [egyptian] ball/globe/earth) is sucked up by!

Lobster = A RED Crustacean (illuminati are called the ROSI-CRUCIANS)

Rosicrucianism is a secret philosophical society, said to have been founded in late medieval Germany by Christian Rosenkreuz

- who live in/pop out of small holes and nip you with their pincers (pincer movement) is what the Demon Global Elites (Rosi-Crucians) are playing right now to consolodate their Satanic One-World Global Empire!

In Heraldry - A Hand means much more than that - each joint/segment means a generation!

A lobster has one large (Premier) CRUsher Claw and one Cutting Claw

Shampagne=crushed G_rapes refermented - the FIZZ is called CARBONation CO2

The occult 'reversed' pendant of the illuminati is the Helvetian Flag where (under the secrecy laws) they hide their stolen wealth!

(They were part of the Teutonic Nazi plots to steal the tangible wealth of Europe peoples during the wars)

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But there are no authorities. If they were authorities then their models would not be constantly wrong. They know more about climate science than you or I, but not enough to make accurate predictions.

When were 'models' mentioned?

This particular bit of physics is pretty well explored. You don't need to trust any 'authorities'; you may need to use a computer (Arrhenius didn't, what with doing this back in 1896) but you could fairly easily replicate it yourself. Especially with a degree in physics.

I did not reply to previous comment on Venus, which is tendentious. Venus receives about twice the solar radiation than does Earth. You used the word "surface" to hide that fact knowing that Venus is clothed by a super thick atmosphere which does not exist on Earth.

Sigh.

Earth: Albedo 0.37, Distance 1. Radiative flux is proportional to the Albedo times distance squared, i.e. 0.37

Venus: Albedo 0.67, Distance 0.72 (AU) Radiative flux is proportional to the Albedo times distance squared, i.e. 0.35

Edit actually slightly the wrong way around, (1-Albedo)/r2, or 0.63 and 0.66.. which dosen't actually affect the conclusion... which was ironically the check.

Scepticism. Where once climate science was a backwater for a few academics, it is now a multi-billion dollar industry in research grants alone. Where such funds are at stake, motives must be questioned.

Off on a tangent again; what does this have to do with saturation arguments?

Fortunately I have the background to be able to raise some issues.

Well, good. Now toddle off and do your calculations before presenting your conclusions, like a good physicist.

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The Object of 'FLOG' is to get a flying globe/ball into a hole.

A globe with flying wings is the symbol of Egyptian mythology "winged sun-disk"

(also you are conned with the winged golden ball in Masonic Harry Potter Occult crap on a Broomstick "Quidditch" where the top golden ball (Egypt = winged sun-disk) sprouts wings!

The Pin, the stick in the hole on the Golf green is 'NIP' backwards.

Lob-sters (represents the illuminati/Elites) are the ones all wealth (represented by the flying [egyptian] ball/globe/earth) is sucked up by!

Lobster = A RED Crustacean (illuminati are called the ROSI-CRUCIANS)

Rosicrucianism is a secret philosophical society, said to have been founded in late medieval Germany by Christian Rosenkreuz

- who live in/pop out of small holes and nip you with their pincers (pincer movement) is what the Demon Global Elites (Rosi-Crucians) are playing right now to consolodate their Satanic One-World Global Empire!

Wow!

I mean, WTF!! You`ve excelled yourself there.

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Well, good. Now toddle off and do your calculations before presenting your conclusions, like a good physicist.

As opposed to Climatologists who just seem to make it up as they go along

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As opposed to Climatologists who just seem to make it up as they go along

I refer you back to the original article behind this thread: Why is science under attack? Why are people aggressively proud of being ignorant? Just a slightly more upmarket version of the Vicky Pollard syndrome.. 'I ain't listening to none of those posh do-gooders'

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Anyone else seen this?

http://www.bbc.co.uk...e_Under_Attack/

It's full of Masonic crap.

They keep their Temples to the North empty because they say it represents Darkness and Ig-nor-ance

Science has ICE in it - also one of the first books they show is Darwin's Origin of Species.

It's a deliberate stab/piss-take out of your ignorance by one of the so-called 'enlightened'

(Darwin was on the ship 'Beagle' (a dog/god backwards) when he conjured his crap up! The Masonic Scottish rite emblem is a double-headed (B)eagle)

Studied at Scottish Edinburgh Uni too!

The Journalist 'denier' he interviews has ---POLE in his surname - more 'witty' piss-taking!

Look at the road sign after he gets in black cab to Nasa Space centre - craftily shows "get in lane ICE"

You then get the full on Global Warming (the OCCULT opposite of Cold/ICE) ******** - he says deniers are cherry picking about 10 times during the show supporting Royal Society group think and Peer reviewing - to the detriment of all else!

Keeps going on how "Scientists are under attack from the public" - how dare they have the temerity to question what a Scientist says or releases into our environment

(more often than not for a Big Business that doesn't give a shit about the Earth - just exploiting it and it's inhabitants!)

He then goes and buys a large ICEcream with the bloke with aids - just to rub in his fascistic superior intelligence and Xtra knowledge.

Da do ron ron!

Oh dear - run out of of Clozapine and lithium by any chance?

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Oh dear - run out of of Clozapine and lithium by any chance?

Take the (Darwinian) occult reversed spelling of 'ICE' out of

Species

SPES - Roman abbreviations

The Roman personification of hope, especially of hope for a good harvest, and (in later times) for the blessing of children. There were several temples to Spes in Rome, the oldest dating from B.C. 354

I-CE also PINCER

"CE" is "the Mark" stamped on the box of every item we buy!

Reminds me of Culdees and Mercians - Billy "Bass" Triangles! :)

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