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Wonder how conllib will respond to this. Probably dish out even more visas.

http://www.emigrate.co.uk/news/1671342.html

Every 2 out of 3 New Jobs go to Emigrants

Posted on January 21, 2011 in: Business & Finance

According to some new statistics that were released, 2 out of every 3 new jobs are given to emigrants. This news comes out just as Britain’s jobless total hits the 2.5 million mark. This does include the 951,000 16- to 24-year-olds that are out of work. On top of this, the Office of National Statistics figures show that unemployment will soar this year amid public sector job cuts.

However, some people took these job figures a bit further. They broke it down by place of birth and nationality. This suggests that, even where new jobs were created, only a third of them went to people who were born in the UK. For example, there were some 300,000 more jobs from July to September last year. Two-thirds went to overseas workers, while the ones that were left over were given to Brits.

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I read this on the BNP website earlier. Ridiculous if true, but somehow I think it might be just a tad manipulated.

Thedisaffected/deluded youth in this country - especially those who have unfortunately been hoodwinked into the higher education scam aren't filling those jobs. After paying out a shed load for that, they don't want crappily paid jobs. Neither do people who have lost their higer paid jobs. And indeed, who can blame them on an individual basis?

The people who could accept these jobs are doing quite well thank you very much on state benefits. And who indeed can blame them?

As for the poor saps who are coming over here and taking these roles - they too are deluded into thinking the streets are paved with gold. In reality, their standard of living is likely to be poorer than it would be in their home country. Soonish, they'll realise this and go elsewhere.

I don't believe the stat, but even if it was true, I wouldn't put an iota of blame on the migrant workers. We have the government, corporation and populous we deserve thanks to our collective apathy.

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. Neither do people who have lost their higer paid jobs. And indeed, who can blame them on an individual basis?

The people who could accept these jobs are doing quite well thank you very much on state benefits. And who indeed can blame them?

to our collective apathy.

Worked with 4000 people , we were all made redundant . We all earn't good money many I worked with have tried for these low paid jobs and can not get them .

Some are now on benefits some are not and have sold houses , cashed in savings plans or taken pensions as soon as they could to survive . Being told that immigrants do the jobs they will not do rubs salt in the wounds , the employers do not want British workers especially those over 40 .

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Worked with 4000 people , we were all made redundant . We all earn't good money many I worked with have tried for these low paid jobs and can not get them .

Some are now on benefits some are not and have sold houses , cashed in savings plans or taken pensions as soon as they could to survive . Being told that immigrants do the jobs they will not do rubs salt in the wounds , the employers do not want British workers especially those over 40 .

OK - for those that do apply to lower paid jobs after being made redundant, they are in an unfortunate situation. Sadly, the reason you aren't getting these jobs is not 'migrant workers' taking it, but more likely the perception on the part of the employer that a worker who is taking a pay cut is likely to only be looking at the role on a temporary basis - rightly or wrongly.

I seriously doubt if a british person with a CV *appropriate to the role* and a foreigner with a CV appropriate to the role both went for a fixed wage job, that the employer would deliberately hire the foreigner.

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I seriously doubt if a british person with a CV *appropriate to the role* and a foreigner with a CV appropriate to the role both went for a fixed wage job, that the employer would deliberately hire the foreigner.

We have 1 million unemployed 16-24 year olds so unless the foreigners CV has something outstanding on it that the young British can not match I strongley dissagree with you on that one !!!

Companies will not hire our young or over 40's , but 2 in 3 jobs go to foreigners something very very wrong with what is happening right now and it is going to blow up in the faces of our leaders if they do not do something about it soon.

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Wonder how conllib will respond to this. Probably dish out even more visas.

I believe the Soviet Socialist EU are saying we can`t cap immigrants from outside the EU and should also allow them free access to the UK.

I feel sorry for the future of your children and grandchildren as there won`t be one. :(

Nothing can`t be done as the population of this country don`t give a toss.

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OK - for those that do apply to lower paid jobs after being made redundant, they are in an unfortunate situation. Sadly, the reason you aren't getting these jobs is not 'migrant workers' taking it, but more likely the perception on the part of the employer that a worker who is taking a pay cut is likely to only be looking at the role on a temporary basis - rightly or wrongly.

I seriously doubt if a british person with a CV *appropriate to the role* and a foreigner with a CV appropriate to the role both went for a fixed wage job, that the employer would deliberately hire the foreigner.

Isn't a major exception to this customer-facing jobs in London and many cities?. If the applicants are CV equal, and the foreign person offers good English and their home language, hotels, restaurants, shops, bars, pubs,museums, galleries etc will see this as a decisive bonus. Where businesses trade with people of many nationalities, being bi-lingual is a real asset to the business.

I had a recruiter in a major national institution tell me just this recently.

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Isn't a major exception to this customer-facing jobs in London and many cities?. If the applicants are CV equal, and the foreign person offers good English and their home language, hotels, restaurants, shops, bars, pubs,museums, galleries etc will see this as a decisive bonus. Where businesses trade with people of many nationalities, being bi-lingual is a real asset to the business.

I had a recruiter in a major national institution tell me just this recently.

It's not an exception, as by your own statement, the CV's aren't equal. The addition of the foreign language makes the foreigner the better candidate for that particular role, and they rightly take the job. Inflammatory as it may sound, If the brit want's to compete (for that role), they should learn a foreign language too. It's not tough, I speak 5 languages to the level that would be appropriate for business, and another 5 to the level necessary to conduct a typical customer facing role.

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It's not an exception, as by your own statement, the CV's aren't equal. The addition of the foreign language makes the foreigner the better candidate for that particular role, and they rightly take the job. Inflammatory as it may sound, If the brit want's to compete (for that role), they should learn a foreign language too. It's not tough, I speak 5 languages to the level that would be appropriate for business, and another 5 to the level necessary to conduct a typical customer facing role.

Carp

If companies want to trade here employ the people who are here instead of employing foreigners who are so desperate in their home countries that they are willing to live on very little and save money that will go a long way when they get back home . So therefour are so much more willing , thats why they want them as they will jump through hoops for sh-t money.

As for your 10 languages , if we all learnt 10 languages the companies would find some other reason to exclude our own.

You make me laugh you talk about "particular roles" when answering a post that was mentioning jobs that are NMW ffs.

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Would come in very handy on the tills at Tesco. Just think all those immigrants from EU countries would feel at home. :rolleyes:

We were talking about a role in tourism/business for which a foreign language was appropriate. However, having seen your sig and your previous comment, not suprising. The Estonian economy is far stronger than ours, and we'd be a candidate for a bailout from them rather than vice versa.

Considering the average EU citizen speaks comparable English, and certainly has a greater understanding/will to learn/work ethic than much of our native population, it's little suprise to see them taking the jobs is it?

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Carp

If companies want to trade here employ the people who are here instead of employing foreigners who are so desperate in their home countries that they are willing to live on very little and save money that will go a long way when they get back home . So therefour are so much more willing , thats why they want them as they will jump through hoops for sh-t money.

As for your 10 languages , if we all learnt 10 languages the companies would find some other reason to exclude our own.

You make me laugh you talk about "particular roles" when answering a post that was mentioning jobs that are NMW ffs.

Indeed, anyway most immigrants command of the English language is terrible and on par with a 5 year old, hows that an advantage.

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We were talking about a role in tourism/business for which a foreign language was appropriate. However, having seen your sig and your previous comment, not suprising. The Estonian economy is far stronger than ours, and we'd be a candidate for a bailout from them rather than vice versa.

Considering the average EU citizen speaks comparable English, and certainly has a greater understanding/will to learn/work ethic than much of our native population, it's little suprise to see them taking the jobs is it?

Just because they can speak broken English and their own language we all have to learn another language to get a NMW job , as I said before it is all going to blow up in the leaders and companies faces if they do not sort this sh-t out soon.

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The Estonian economy is far stronger than ours, and we'd be a candidate for a bailout from them rather than vice versa.

That`s a joke in it. :lol:

GDP PPP: $29.35bn (2007[update] est.)

PPP rank: 56th (2007[update])[2]

GDP growth −14.1% (2009)[3]

GDP per capita $18,800 (2009[update] est.)

GDP by sector agriculture (3%), industry (29%), services (68%) (2007[update] est.)

Inflation (CPI)10.4% (2008)[4]

Population below poverty line 5% (2003[update])

Labour force 688,000 (2007[update] est.)

Labour force by occupation services (69%), industry (20%), agriculture (11%) (1999[update] est.)

Unemployment 18.6 % (June 2010 est.)[5]

Main industries engineering, electronics, wood and wood products, textiles; information technology, telecommunications

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Carp

If companies want to trade here employ the people who are here instead of employing foreigners who are so desperate in their home countries that they are willing to live on very little and save money that will go a long way when they get back home . So therefour are so much more willing , thats why they want them as they will jump through hoops for sh-t money.

As for your 10 languages , if we all learnt 10 languages the companies would find some other reason to exclude our own.

You make me laugh you talk about "particular roles" when answering a post that was mentioning jobs that are NMW ffs.

No it wasn't. The other poster started by stating the two candidates had comparable CVs for a job, but then contradicted the statement by saying the job benefits from a second language. Well, in that instance, the foreign person then has the better CV. What's so difficult to understand?

You've obviously been dealt a bad hand and are looking for someone to blame. Can't blame you.

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Don't forget all those jobs where the workers are in the UK temporarily, working for a foreign staffing company at far far less than minimum wage.

Very affordable staffing for businesses.

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No it wasn't. The other poster started by stating the two candidates had comparable CVs for a job, but then contradicted the statement by saying the job benefits from a second language. Well, in that instance, the foreign person then has the better CV. What's so difficult to understand?

You've obviously been dealt a bad hand and are looking for someone to blame. Can't blame you.

Depends what you mean by a bad hand , was unemployed for a while but am working again now.

What i have seen is foreigners being given jobs ahead of our own , have younger relatives who can not get jobs and friends who have grown up children in their 20's still only able to earn pocket money .

Don't take my word for it look around you and see what is happening in the world of work , our people were ok for the jobs 10 years back , but not now. I beleive in our young people and do not write them off as inferior to the cheap labour from abroad , if we do not invest in them we will reap what we have sowne. Quite frankly people moan about the frekless young girl who gets herself pregenant to get a council flat with the alternatives on offer right now I don't blame her.

Edited by miko

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That`s a joke in it. :lol:

Estonia, with debt estimated at 9.6% of GDP this year and a deficit equal to 2.4% of GDP.

UK debt equivalent to 71.3 per cent of GDP, deficit equivalent to 11.4 per cent of gross domestic product (GDP).

We can chuck numbers back and forth all you like.

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ill bet a lot of these jobs are manual jobs - service industry, manufacturing, labour , and unfortuantely the east europeans, the poles in particular are far better workers with better work ethic, arrive on time, work hard, rarely take time off.

if you ran your own company lets say a manufacturer offering line work or a run a hotel that needs catering staff and it was your house on the line - who would you employ?

jobs arent given out on a plate, these people are picked out from a choice of maybe 50 applicants per job.

to say its just becuase they accept low pay is nonsense. a job is advertised with the pay stated in advance.

a large proportion of british workers will be appling for these jobs too but too many just do not cut the grade in terms of work ethic.

Edited by mfp123

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if we do not invest in them we will reap what we have sowne. Quite frankly people moan about the frekless young girl who gets herself pregenant to get a council flat with the alternatives on offer right now I don't blame her.

Which is effectively what I said in my first post in this thread. It's just I don't go blaming those nasty foreigners all the time for problems caused by the government. Blame them, not individuals who are trying to do the best for themselves.

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Estonia, with debt estimated at 9.6% of GDP this year and a deficit equal to 2.4% of GDP.

UK debt equivalent to 71.3 per cent of GDP, deficit equivalent to 11.4 per cent of gross domestic product (GDP).

We can chuck numbers back and forth all you like.

It`s like comparing a corner shop with Tesco. :rolleyes:

http://www.vm.ee/?q=en/node/5674

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ill bet a lot of these jobs are manual jobs - service industry, manufacturing, labour , and unfortuantely the east europeans, the poles in particular are far better workers with better work ethic, arrive on time, work hard, rarely take time off.

Thats a Rascist statement mate.

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Which is effectively what I said in my first post in this thread. It's just I don't go blaming those nasty foreigners all the time for problems caused by the government. Blame them, not individuals who are trying to do the best for themselves.

I did not blame them i said the govenment or leaders was the word i used must do something about letting masses of foreigners in who get the jobs ahead of our own before it blows up in their faces.

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ill bet a lot of these jobs are manual jobs - service industry, manufacturing, labour , and unfortuantely the east europeans, the poles in particular are far better workers with better work ethic, arrive on time, work hard, rarely take time off.

if you ran your own company lets say a manufacturer offering line work or a run a hotel that needs catering staff and it was your house on the line - who would you employ?

jobs arent given out on a plate, these people are picked out from a choice of maybe 50 applicants per job.

to say its just becuase they accept low pay is nonsense. a job is advertised with the pay stated in advance.

a large proportion of british workers will be appling for these jobs too but too many just do not cut the grade in terms of work ethic.

How do you know that . The type of jobs you are stating are low paid and in industrys where explotation is common . So what you really mean is these poles and other eastern europeans are more up for being exploited while our own will say no . That is the truth of the matter.

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