Pole Posted January 19, 2011 Share Posted January 19, 2011 BBC LINK A Home Office spokesperson said the government "opposes extremism in all its forms". He said: "Numerous comments made by Pastor Jones are evidence of his unacceptable behaviour. "Coming to the UK is a privilege not a right and we are not willing to allow entry to those whose presence is not conducive to the public good. Thank you Mr Government for telling us who's the right preacher and who's the wrong one. Again, what does it mean that comments are evidence of unacceptable behaviour? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
6538 Posted January 19, 2011 Share Posted January 19, 2011 BBC LINK Thank you Mr Government for telling us who's the right preacher and who's the wrong one. Again, what does it mean that comments are evidence of unacceptable behaviour? If this is the guy from that nutcase church which believes that US soldiers being killed in Afghanistan is gods retribution for allowing homosexuality oin society then the Home Office are spot on, as far as I can see. He's a knob-head of the highest order and the bigoted shyte he comes out with contravenes our law on so many levels. Insighting people to hate others (and worse) is "unacceptable" according to the laws of this country and rightly so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fatsam Posted January 19, 2011 Share Posted January 19, 2011 Think you are refering to the Westboro Baptist Church which he is not a member of, they have protested together though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WageWar Posted January 20, 2011 Share Posted January 20, 2011 Insighting people to hate others (and worse) is "unacceptable" according to the laws of this country and rightly so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nightsod Posted January 20, 2011 Share Posted January 20, 2011 If this is the guy from that nutcase church which believes that US soldiers being killed in Afghanistan is gods retribution for allowing homosexuality oin society then the Home Office are spot on, as far as I can see. He's a knob-head of the highest order and the bigoted shyte he comes out with contravenes our law on so many levels. Insighting people to hate others (and worse) is "unacceptable" according to the laws of this country and rightly so. Fair enough, assuming we're extending the same logic to all those Saudi madassas. Which we aren't... I wonder which decision we'll come to regret most in years to come... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Limpet Posted January 20, 2011 Share Posted January 20, 2011 Them raggy heads just can`t take a joke Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
6538 Posted January 20, 2011 Share Posted January 20, 2011 Think you are refering to the Westboro Baptist Church which he is not a member of, they have protested together though. Card well marked then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
6538 Posted January 20, 2011 Share Posted January 20, 2011 Fair enough, assuming we're extending the same logic to all those Saudi madassas. Which we aren't... I wonder which decision we'll come to regret most in years to come... I agree. Just because we don't apply the law properly against some people doesn't make it wrong to apply it properly against others. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pole Posted January 20, 2011 Author Share Posted January 20, 2011 I agree. Just because we don't apply the law properly against some people we fear doesn't make it wrong to apply it properly against others people we don't fear. corrected for you. They can ban him becuase they know that even the most radical Christians won't be marching in London with plackards 'Britain go to hell'. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Qetesuesi Posted January 21, 2011 Share Posted January 21, 2011 Man A threatens to burn a Koran - ban him Man B actually rips up Bibles - knight him Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
erranta Posted January 21, 2011 Share Posted January 21, 2011 Think you are refering to the Westboro Baptist Church which he is not a member of, they have protested together though. The concepts for the 'new' Baptist sect were debated/knocked out by a few bevviers on the back of a beer mat in a student bar in Oxford! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nightsod Posted January 21, 2011 Share Posted January 21, 2011 I agree. Just because we don't apply the law properly against some people doesn't make it wrong to apply it properly against others. Aye, but 'realpolitik' means that this will never happen. Or at least won't happen until that sweet, sweet crude loses allof it's commercial value. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter Hun Posted January 21, 2011 Share Posted January 21, 2011 corrected for you. They can ban him becuase they know that even the most radical Christians won't be marching in London with plackards 'Britain go to hell'. They can ban him becuase he has absolutely no right to set foot in the UK. He has no freedom of speech outside of the USA, the USA will try kill anyone who isn't America and try's to use 'freedom of Speech' to criticism. Any citizen outside his own country has zero rights to do anything, if I go to the US they arrest me jail me indefinitely and without charge then deport me to a third country to be tortured and killed. The UK could do the same if it wanted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Number79 Posted January 21, 2011 Share Posted January 21, 2011 I had no problem with him being banned and still dont. It does look ridiculous though when looking at who is on the banned list since he doesnt compare to the others. The fact remains though that he has no freedom of speech and no rights in my country. I do not need to be told anything by some bible waving fking yank about what is happening here. The policy should be applied equally to all foreigners though and that is my only issue with what has happened. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ned Coates Posted January 22, 2011 Share Posted January 22, 2011 What about Imams who hold a British passport but spread hate, are they welcome in your country, because they wouldn't be in mine and I don't care whether we have a human rights act or not, get out of it and get out of Europe. Have you any evidence....Outside of the daily wail....That Imans spread hate? The mosque near me bans any reference that may cause offence even to a passing israeli/jew. The reason I ask is because I see a lot of negative press about muslims but little or mostly no evidence to back up the vitriol. And by the way if you ever read the new testament you will note that Jesus would greet you with the words "Peace be upon you" They never told me that at sunday school Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pole Posted January 22, 2011 Author Share Posted January 22, 2011 Have you any evidence....Outside of the daily wail....That Imans spread hate? The mosque near me bans any reference that may cause offence even to a passing israeli/jew. The reason I ask is because I see a lot of negative press about muslims but little or mostly no evidence to back up the vitriol. And by the way if you ever read the new testament you will note that Jesus would greet you with the words "Peace be upon you" They never told me that at sunday school The funny thing is that the guy in question never actually burnt the Koran. However, in response to his call - 1000s of Bibles were burnt by Muslims across Middle East and Asia. Personally, I think that we shouldn't burn any books. If you don't like - don't buy it and don't believe in it. If you really like it - buy it but don't force others to do the same. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Number79 Posted January 22, 2011 Share Posted January 22, 2011 The funny thing is that the guy in question never actually burnt the Koran. However, in response to his call - 1000s of Bibles were burnt by Muslims across Middle East and Asia. Personally, I think that we shouldn't burn any books. If you don't like - don't buy it and don't believe in it. If you really like it - buy it but don't force others to do the same. This is never brought up and shows many muslims for what they are. A nutjob threatens to burn the koran as a protest something that they find so terrible that they respond by burning thousands of someone elses holly book. They also took to the streets like a bunch of medievil savages just for a change. There were also the death threats. Makes you wonder if people have a point doesnt it? I am still glad he was denied access to the uk though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
libspero Posted January 22, 2011 Share Posted January 22, 2011 I am still glad he was denied access to the uk though. If there is evidence that he is here to deliberately promote violence or extremism then I agree that he shouldn't be let in. If he's just been banned because he upset a couple of high ranking Muslim ministers with his threats to burn a Koran then they should stop being so pathetic and perhaps be a bit more tolerant of views other than their own. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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