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After the non existent jan sales and mixed christmas I am finding the shops are stuffed full of very poor quality products. Anyone else finding this? Oh Currys have closed their branch in maidstone.

A few other large shops in maidstone are closing down.

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I have noticed that bread is starting to have lots of big air holes in it, so it looks the same size but weighs considerably less. Heh I bought a cake recently the bottom of the container was domed about 1 inch. Thus it looked the same but was considerably less cake.

Burgers recently appear to contain a lot of saw dust too.

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Sick and tired of only being able to buy low quality tat.

If you're only going to use a tool/thing once a year or so tat is fine. But if you're going to use it every day you need decent quality. Seems to me that it is no longer possible to buy good quality stuff in the high street.

Consumer backlash against poor quality nonsense must be on the cards soon.

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Quality has been declining for ages. If you're old enough, go and find a pair of your old jeans - something you grew out of in the 80s. They'll be heavy, with thick material and decent stitching. I'm currently wearing a pair of 501s that a flimsy in comparison - thinner material.

Timberland is another one that annoys me. A decade a ago a pair of Timberland boots were expensive, but worth it. They lasted for years, and my first pair was only tossed out when the soles became worn smooth and dangerous. The next pair fell apart in 18 months. The pair after that lasted about 14 months. So I've dropped Timberland - CAT boots are half the price, and the quality is probably suspect, but at least it is in line with the price. They'll last longer than the Timberlands anyway.

You can buy quality, but it costs. It doesn't really cost when you consider inflation. Take washing machines. They were about £250 in the 80s, and people expect them to be £150 today - in today's money, of course they'll be made of cheese. Accounting for inflation, you should be looking to spend a grand on a washing machine - which I did, and am well pleased.

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Sick and tired of only being able to buy low quality tat.

Consumer backlash against poor quality nonsense must be on the cards soon.

Will we really demand stuff which works, and works well?

We shall see when money is a bit tighter! :huh:

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Sick and tired of only being able to buy low quality tat.

If you're only going to use a tool/thing once a year or so tat is fine. But if you're going to use it every day you need decent quality. Seems to me that it is no longer possible to buy good quality stuff in the high street.

Consumer backlash against poor quality nonsense must be on the cards soon.

Stop buying in the high street then! Go to specialists instead, snap on for tools for instance, Altberg for shoes both are excellent quality stuff but they cost more.... however in the long run they cost less due to requiring less replacements.

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Not just consumer products, I'm finding alot more bugs in software or programming add-ons and even when you report them companies are not fixing them when they have had the report for a couple of years.

I've given up with one programming language that I used to alpha test & run the uk user group for and I know the majority of programmers over here have given up on it becuase of the numerous problems and gone back to their previous version.

IRIS accounts is terrible. I use now and again and simply the number of bugs in it is horrendous, it has one hell of a memory leak as well. Our machines have 8GB and we have to reboot them about 3 times a day. From what I remember of programming the programmers were lazy too, EVERYTHING is CPU priority one which means everything freezes if you press a button.

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Quality has been declining for ages. If you're old enough, go and find a pair of your old jeans - something you grew out of in the 80s. They'll be heavy, with thick material and decent stitching. I'm currently wearing a pair of 501s that a flimsy in comparison - thinner material.

My 501s from the mid 1990s (I haven't grown much since my teens) lasted 15 years you can see me riding across Russia in them and they were fine. Compare to the jeans I bought 3 years ago which have barely been worn they have holes in them already!

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Unfortunately, the decline in quality is a direct result of consumer demand. To be blunt...... If that's all that you are prepared to pay - that's what you get.

EPOS data shows that people no longer seem prepared to pay for quality goods (the brand), they expect it with all purchases. Sadly, they won't get it for so little money and, this has resulted in the collapse in sales for branded goods and general dissatisfaction with regard to quality for customers

The biggest threat to traditional brands no longer comes from their competitors, it's from own label and fit-for-purpose products. Suppliers can't afford these price points, as often the entry level business is at break even or, loss making in order to secure shelf space for profitable branded merchandise.

Expect an inflation explosion when the companies with poor business models fall by the wayside.

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Stop buying in the high street then! Go to specialists instead, snap on for tools for instance, Altberg for shoes both are excellent quality stuff but they cost more.... however in the long run they cost less due to requiring less replacements.

And by buying Altberg boots/shoes you'll be supporting UK manufacturing too.

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Actually, I've had some pretty positive experiences in the sales. This year I bought:

Warm coat (Budget £80) - Bought £11 (and it is fantastic quality!)

Casual jacket (Budget £120) - Bought £25 (Exactly what I wanted - good quality)

Jeans 3-pair (Budget £45) - Bought £17 (Completely happy with the quality)

28 pairs socks (Budget £30) - Bought £12

More amusingly, I almost made an impulse purchase of a £15 illuminated keyboard in Dixons... I just wanted to check that it didn't have short-travel keys... I said I was 'very interested' - but wanted to see one to verify the key travel... I was treated like dirt, talked to as if I'd asked to do something outrageous in wanting to see the goods I intend to buy. I loudly exclaimed "If you don't want the sale, I'll buy one elsewhere." and left... found the information I wanted at home... bought it for £9.99 delivered from ebay.

What I'm seeing is that if you have time to shop around, you can get good stuff for small-change... but... if you expect to be treated with respect by mainstream stores, you're in for a tough ride. I'm noticing that either you can find what you want - and it is dirt cheap... or it simply isn't available. Paying more, it seems to me, doesn't get you anything better - in fact, quite often, I see the opposite.

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And by buying Altberg boots/shoes you'll be supporting UK manufacturing too.

They are made in Yorkshire the leather uppers come from a Tannery in Italy though and have come from there for the last 15 years.

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I've worn Doctor Martens shoes/boots pretty much all my life, almost every day from school onwards and they would last.

Then in 2002 they moved production to China and although if I'm honest, they still do hold up well, the quality is definitely down. Price hasn't moved though.

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I've worn Doctor Martens shoes/boots pretty much all my life, almost every day from school onwards and they would last.

Then in 2002 they moved production to China and although if I'm honest, they still do hold up well, the quality is definitely down. Price hasn't moved though.

Seriously have a go at the Altberg boots, I'm going there next week to have my feet measured up for two pairs which will last me the next 25 years.

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Seriously have a go at the Altberg boots, I'm going there next week to have my feet measured up for two pairs which will last me the next 25 years.

Yeah just looking at their site now, not really into the hardcore walking boot thing though. If they did a casual/everyday boot I'd be interested!

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I've worn Doctor Martens shoes/boots pretty much all my life, almost every day from school onwards and they would last.

That's a pretty single-minded lifestyle choice, and I would be wrong to comment on your style, but you are right on the quality thing! :huh:

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That's a pretty single-minded lifestyle choice, and I would be wrong to comment on your style, but you are right on the quality thing! :huh:

Not really, they make quite a wide range of styles. Not just the stereotypical skinhead fave!

If I'm wearing trainers then obviously they aren't DMs, otherwise why not?

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After the non existent jan sales and mixed christmas I am finding the shops are stuffed full of very poor quality products. Anyone else finding this? Oh Currys have closed their branch in maidstone.

A few other large shops in maidstone are closing down.

MAIDSTONE

ive had it informally confirmed from an acquaintance with an interest in the area that it is due to competition from Harvey nicks and Bvlgari

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Just picked up my fortnightly chinese from my favourite East Barnet road emporium.

There was little to no seafood in the seafood fried rice. There were a few bits.

There were but a few shreds of pork in the roast pork chow mein.

Been going in there for nearly 3 years, the quality has dropped off a cliff.

Yet next door in Budgens,i can buy a HUGE bag of squid rings for £3.

Run by asians, they always get walloping great big bags of seafood for less than your enormodome outlet.

The chilean red is frequently cheaper too. :)

Still i expect the landlord who owns the chinese can hike the rent a bit more, until he puts them out of business, knowing full well he will pay ****** ALL RATES on an empty shop.

Things MUST change.

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I've worn Doctor Martens shoes/boots pretty much all my life, almost every day from school onwards and they would last.

Then in 2002 they moved production to China and although if I'm honest, they still do hold up well, the quality is definitely down. Price hasn't moved though.

Doc Martens are an interesting case in that they allow you the option to buy UK made and pay the premium :-

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An innovative idea that I hope catches on.

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Just picked up my fortnightly chinese from my favourite East Barnet road emporium.

There was little to no seafood in the seafood fried rice. There were a few bits.

There were but a few shreds of pork in the roast pork chow mein.

Been going in there for nearly 3 years, the quality has dropped off a cliff.

Yet next door in Budgens,i can buy a HUGE bag of squid rings for £3.

Run by asians, they always get walloping great big bags of seafood for less than your enormodome outlet.

The chilean red is frequently cheaper too. :)

Still i expect the landlord who owns the chinese can hike the rent a bit more, until he puts them out of business, knowing full well he will pay ****** ALL RATES on an empty shop.

Things MUST change.

Has it changed hands? The thing is almost all meat is imported into the UK, dehyrdrated chicken comes in from Brazil and China. Seafood comes from SEA and India. They are being absolutely hammered by the £ devaluation. I remember being a buyer for a shop in 2010 for an old couple and every week the prices jumped 10%

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Doc Martens are an interesting case in that they allow you the option to buy UK made and pay the premium :-

My link

An innovative idea that I hope catches on.

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£220? No way would I pay for 95% made in China 5% finished in the UK (the made/finished in the UK bit is sewing the made in the UK label on) When £170 buys you made in the UK made to measure! Who are they kidding?

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Levi's used to cost me 45quid and last 3+ years. They are £70-80quid now and don't seem to last 10minutes.

My wife is in Switzerland for the next few weeks as her business forges ahead with 2011 plans. She is a high level executive and is in board meetings right now and I could not believe what she told me (she plays corporate) a few days ago :

They are dropping one their Chinese suppliers because the quality of the finished product is ....

too good and does not fit in with the 'Product Cycle' and they are now going with another Chinese supplier of inferior products. I must emphasise there is no cost saving in the move.

now it makes sense that the stuff from Chindia is S**T!!! it's because the corporates are asking for it to be this way. I kid you not, you heard it here first.

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Accounting for inflation, you should be looking to spend a grand on a washing machine - which I did, and am well pleased.

Did you get a miele? I've heard only wonderful things about them.

It's like they didn't get the memo about built in obsolescence that the other manufacturers sent out! :)

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