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http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/jobs/hr-news/8260885/Council-staff-to-go-on-loan-to-companies.html

Hundreds of council staff facing redundancy could be seconded to major retail, manufacturing or telecoms employers to plug industry skills gaps and save jobs, under a new social enterprise scheme.

More than 20 councils including Manchester, Surrey and Hertfordshire have begun uploading the details of their most talented staff facing job cuts onto a new “skills exchange” website, in preparation for those workers being picked up by private or third sector bosses that demand their skills.

Founders of the not-for-profit scheme, called StaffShare, are in talks with household-name employers who are keen to employ specific skills from the public sector for a set period of time. The positions are in areas which they find hard to recruit for, such as project managers, manufacturing or logistics staff.

The website has won the backing of manufacturing group EEF, employment relations service Acas and councils’ lobbying group Local Government Employers.

The secondment system works by getting the new employer to pay for some or all of the worker’s current salary – to be negotiated between organisations – for an agreed length of time. The existing organisation saves on salary costs, meaning it can avoid having to make someone redundant, while the new employer can “buy” staff well below the market rate. Both organisations pay a “proportional” membership fee which would be invested in creating apprenticeships for young people, StaffShare said.

Genius.

So either the private sector gets the people who aren't any good, or those who are good at their jobs jump ship move to the private sector leaving the mediocre to run things at the council.

This is clearly a win win situation for the council taxpayer, can't wait for my taxes to fund people to work in the private sector.

Anyone on here who runs a business fancy taking on any council employees to fill their own skills shortage?

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http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/jobs/hr-news/8260885/Council-staff-to-go-on-loan-to-companies.html

Genius.

So either the private sector gets the people who aren't any good, or those who are good at their jobs jump ship move to the private sector leaving the mediocre to run things at the council.

This is clearly a win win situation for the council taxpayer, can't wait for my taxes to fund people to work in the private sector.

Anyone on here who runs a business fancy taking on any council employees to fill their own skills shortage?

It's a lose lose situation for anyone interested in the private sector job. It means they won't get the job and it forces wages down.

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I wonder if people know they are in the upload before they are told.

then again, why couldnt they upload themselves to the myriad jobsites already on the web.

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seems to be confusion here, the Councils seem to think "Skills Shortage" actually means lack of people with skills, but in the private sector "skills shortage" is a euphemism for "we want cheap labour".

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I see manufacturing as a sector they think will want to hire staff from the public sector. Now what skills do public sector employees have in the area of manufacturing that could not be better carried out by a private sector worker who has already been employed in manufacturing?

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It sounds like it's proposed to be on a much bigger scale than the existing work experience transfers between public and private sector.

It could turn out to be a cheaper method of redundancy if the transfer involves change from public sector conditions to less favourable private sector conditions. Admittedly the change in conditions is probably not very likely but who knows.

Another factor is private sector conditions being inferior to public sector conditions leading to some friction if both working for the same private sector company.

If done in bulk some public sector transfers will likely displace workers from the private sector employer.

It sounds like a complete hotch potch of a policy and it'll also likely disadvantage younger workers and fresh graduates from the UK (again) many with a lot of new debt looking for a job in the private sector but finding they're now having to compete with the governments transfer allocation as well as cheap incomers from overseas etc. Temporary contract workers are likely to be disadvantaged in the policy as well.

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I see manufacturing as a sector they think will want to hire staff from the public sector. Now what skills do public sector employees have in the area of manufacturing that could not be better carried out by a private sector worker who has already been employed in manufacturing?

Manufacturing meetings out of thin air.

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Could be a win for the taxpayer there, if councils get to offload staff without big redundancy payments!

The carrot for the staff is a privileged/fast-track job search. And there's even a benefit to prospective employers, if those council staff who choose it over a redundancy package are the ones with a decent work ethic.

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Could be a win for the taxpayer there, if councils get to offload staff without big redundancy payments!

You don't seem to understand what a secondment is.

They are still employed by the council, and are still acrueing tax-payer funded benefits like pension liabilities and redundancy entitlements.

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A not for profit website which will naturally have it's "reasonable" running costs covered by some kind of grant..... A4E have been paid a fortune to go through the motions of getting the unemployed back into "work"... this lot will be granted a cr@p load of money for advertising public sector CV's on a website no one ever visits.

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WTF? Why on earth are public sector workers allowed this sweetener, as the JC makes my independent search for work increasingly difficult? This is pretty fecking outrageous.

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