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I'd be interested to see if you agree or raise something I've been ignorant of but check these out...

Action Camera Ebay link

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These are cameras that you put on your helmet and you film yourself doing extreme sports like skiing or mountain biking and then upload to YouTube/Facebook to show off.

They have another application which there is some progress with. Some truck drivers are using similar devices as black-box-like recorders. In theory something like an app on an iPhone could accomplish the same too.

As you can see this one is only £22.99 delivered to your door. These prices are only going to come down and applications widened. Everyone will have one. Why wouldn't you unless you like to drive dangerously. Although there are mechanisms for insurers to measure risk we all know there's a strong element of good drivers subsidising the costs of bad drivers.

Car insurers like to be competitive when they can accurately assess risk which is obviously difficult. They'd be extremely interested in video evidence of their drivers driving like idiots being supplied to them.

Policing will also get easier. Dealing with opposing statements will become child's play. The Police could probably be withdrawn from many aspects of road safety.

I think big things are coming that cheap technology will improve our lives a lot. The right people rewarded and punished (important in society), policing costs down, insurance down.

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I'd be interested to see if you agree or raise something I've been ignorant of but check these out...

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These are cameras that you put on your helmet and you film yourself doing extreme sports like skiing or mountain biking and then upload to YouTube/Facebook to show off.

They have another application which there is some progress with. Some truck drivers are using similar devices as black-box-like recorders. In theory something like an app on an iPhone could accomplish the same too.

As you can see this one is only £22.99 delivered to your door. These prices are only going to come down and applications widened. Everyone will have one. Why wouldn't you unless you like to drive dangerously. Although there are mechanisms for insurers to measure risk we all know there's a strong element of good drivers subsidising the costs of bad drivers.

Car insurers like to be competitive when they can accurately assess risk which is obviously difficult. They'd be extremely interested in video evidence of their drivers driving like idiots being supplied to them.

Policing will also get easier. Dealing with opposing statements will become child's play. The Police could probably be withdrawn from many aspects of road safety.

I think big things are coming that cheap technology will improve our lives a lot. The right people rewarded and punished (important in society), policing costs down, insurance down, forms of transports that are cheap but perceived risky (cycling) safer.

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I'd be interested to see if you agree or raise something I've been ignorant of but check these out...

Action Camera Ebay link

!CBUmWc!!2k~$(KGrHqJ,!mIEz+0E27skBNHKtmJwsQ~~0_12.JPG

These are cameras that you put on your helmet and you film yourself doing extreme sports like skiing or mountain biking and then upload to YouTube/Facebook to show off.

They have another application which there is some progress with. Some truck drivers are using similar devices as black-box-like recorders. In theory something like an app on an iPhone could accomplish the same too.

As you can see this one is only £22.99 delivered to your door. These prices are only going to come down and applications widened. Everyone will have one. Why wouldn't you unless you like to drive dangerously. Although there are mechanisms for insurers to measure risk we all know there's a strong element of good drivers subsidising the costs of bad drivers.

Car insurers like to be competitive when they can accurately assess risk which is obviously difficult. They'd be extremely interested in video evidence of their drivers driving like idiots being supplied to them.

Policing will also get easier. Dealing with opposing statements will become child's play. The Police could probably be withdrawn from many aspects of road safety.

I think big things are coming that cheap technology will improve our lives a lot. The right people rewarded and punished (important in society), policing costs down, insurance down, forms of transports that are cheap but perceived risky (cycling) safer.

Thanks. I've been wanting something like this for my bike riding. If only to show how insane drivers are!

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Deicated versions of these already exist, they record on a time loop, then if there is an accidednt an accelerometer will pick up the accident shock and then store the period of activity prior to being triggered - that way you don't have to have lots of memory in the device. Could do a cheaper version now with larger amoutns of memory availale - just make it dumb - store last three journeys - old file deleted each time the car is started. Would probably be better becuase not all accidents involve the driver's car itself.

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I'm curious as to why they say

We Ship to Worldwide, except Italy, Nigeria,Russia,Brazil

Are there legal issues with cameras in these countries? I know Russia is a bit touchy about filming still, but Italy?

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.....Car insurers like to be competitive when they can accurately assess risk which is obviously difficult. They'd be extremely interested in video evidence of their drivers driving like idiots being supplied to them.

Policing will also get easier. Dealing with opposing statements will become child's play. The Police could probably be withdrawn from many aspects of road safety.

I think big things are coming that cheap technology will improve our lives a lot. The right people rewarded and punished (important in society), policing costs down, insurance down, forms of transports that are cheap but perceived risky (cycling) safer.

oh bless,

But seriously, are you nuts?

You think we should all carry little cameras to tittle tattle about each other?

:blink::blink::blink:

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I'll take the link out in case you think it's spam. I'm not selling them.

Relevance...is where we are actually going to get some economic growth from. I don't see it as tittle tattle but maybe you do. It's pretty important stuff and I think this is a solution.

I don't see why these couldn't take insurance down.

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Are there legal issues with cameras in these countries? I know Russia is a bit touchy about filming still, but Italy?

Due to fraud I'll bet.

If you've ever sold something small and high value (like a mobile phone) on eBay, you'll have experienced scammers from these countries trying to swindle you out of your money.

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I think big things are coming that cheap technology will improve our lives a lot. The right people rewarded and punished (important in society), policing costs down, insurance down.

Here is one small obstacle: if someone gives the video recording to insurance company this may amout to broadcasting.

And then there is Ofcom

Suffering and distress

8.16 Broadcasters should not take or broadcast footage or audio of people caught up in emergencies, victims of accidents or those suffering a personal tragedy, even in a public place, where that results in an infringement of privacy, unless it is warranted or the people concerned have given consent.

8.17 People in a state of distress should not be put under pressure to take part in a programme or provide interviews, unless it is warranted.

8.18 Broadcasters should take care not to reveal the identity of a person who has died or of victims of accidents or violent crimes, unless and until it is clear that the next of kin have been informed of the event or unless it is warranted.

http://stakeholders.ofcom.org.uk/broadcasting/broadcast-codes/broadcast-code/privacy/

Also while filming in public place is not explicitly prohibited, one may have another kind of problem if landmarks or police officers are caught on camera

http://www.robertsharp.co.uk/2009/04/16/filming-the-police-filming-us/

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Here is one small obstacle: if someone gives the video recording to insurance company this may amout to broadcasting.

And then there is Ofcom

http://stakeholders.ofcom.org.uk/broadcasting/broadcast-codes/broadcast-code/privacy/

Also while filming in public place is not explicitly prohibited, one may have another kind of problem if landmarks or police officers are caught on camera

http://www.robertsharp.co.uk/2009/04/16/filming-the-police-filming-us/

Not saying there aren't big issues but these are going to have a big impact soon whether it's actually using them or debating them.

Yes, there are dedicated solutions but they are still specialist. The fact that this is currently only £23 to your door shows how much progress has and will be made to make them an obvious cheap purchase.

Good sensible young drivers with no insurance history get robbed subsidising the bad ones by values much greater than the cost of a reliable system like this will be.

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I recall that a bus company started putting cameras on buses in the midlands, because drivers were braking in front of them to cause a crash so that they could make a fraudulent insurance claim and blame the bus driver.

Such small cameras are great, as they can record the truth. You never know when that might be handy.

I saw a local news program where some lads had got stoned up and driven late at night down some country roads at high speed, and videod it. The police found it on their phones, I think they routinely have a look at perps phones, so they did them for that as well.

The technology is there to sort out things like illegal uninsured and non-taxed cars. The information age gives the authority great powers.

It can use that power for good, preventing crime that reduces the quality of our lives. It can also use that power to commit crimes against us, which is the fear of many on here.

Being an optimist, I say take this technology, and find ways to use it properly.

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It can use that power for good, preventing crime that reduces the quality of our lives. It can also use that power to commit crimes against us, which is the fear of many on here.

Er... by definition, isn't it impossible for a law-making body to commit crimes against the laws it makes? Because if it legalises them, then they're no longer crimes are they.

So - what exactly is it we should be afraid of?

I'm not trying to be funny.

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Er... by definition, isn't it impossible for a law-making body to commit crimes against the laws it makes? Because if it legalises them, then they're no longer crimes are they.

So - what exactly is it we should be afraid of?

Being like the Soviet Union.

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You've read 1984 right?

In 1984, all of the cameras were controlled by the state. And the information gathered would always be fully doctored for ideological purity before release.

In theory, however, if everything is recorded in a decentralised way, then the authorities have no way of presenting a doctored version of reality. It's a common theme in some sci fi to explore what happens when keeping secrets becomes technically impossible. Think Wikileaks for everything. There would have to be a lot of growing up to do all around.

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I don't see why these couldn't take insurance down.

Why? Because nothing ever does.

It'll be more a case of if you don't have one your insurance will go up.

More's the point is these things dont have the memory to be left recording all the time. So you'd have to have your hindsight glasses on to know when to turn it on. And if you had those......well you wouldn't need insurance.

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I recall that a bus company started putting cameras on buses in the midlands, because drivers were braking in front of them to cause a crash so that they could make a fraudulent insurance claim and blame the bus driver.

Which, from personal experience, I can assure you conveniently fail in three buses when one of the drivers is in the wrong.

Such small cameras are great, as they can record the truth. You never know when that might be handy.

Yes, I'm sure the police will be quite happy to speak into the microphone. Have you seen all the youtube videos of people being roughed up for recording the police. Iirc one guy in the US is being charged, and if found guilty, will be sent to prison for a few years for recording a cop with one of these. link to news video

The technology is there to sort out things like illegal uninsured and non-taxed cars. The information age gives the authority great powers.

It can use that power for good, preventing crime that reduces the quality of our lives. It can also use that power to commit crimes against us, which is the fear of many on here.

Being an optimist, I say take this technology, and find ways to use it properly.

As long as citizens are allowed ot use it in the same way as law enforcement, I have no problems with it. Guaranteed this will not be the case.

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Er... by definition, isn't it impossible for a law-making body to commit crimes against the laws it makes? Because if it legalises them, then they're no longer crimes are they.

So - what exactly is it we should be afraid of?

I'm not trying to be funny.

I guess it is down to definitions. If it were said in law that a policeman cannot be prosecuted for theft committed whilst on duty, then if a policemen stole your wallet, then he wouldnt be guilty of a crime.

However, the theft would still be a 'crime' in the minds of honest people everywhere.

You are right though, just because something has been defined in a certain way, doesnt make it a 'crime'. Like the law about practicing your archery skills on a Sunday, something I dont do, and I wouldnt consider it a crime that I dont, even though the words of the law say that it is.

And then you get the enforcement of the rules being dont subjectively. Like a white male not getting any human rights, whilst everyone else does when you come before a judge.

And there are many crimes that are not on the books too, often as a result of new technology. Take 'grooming', which wasnt a law, but now is after people realised it was becoming a problem. There are other things too which people consider to be a crime, yet there is no law against it.

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I recall that a bus company started putting cameras on buses in the midlands, because drivers were braking in front of them to cause a crash so that they could make a fraudulent insurance claim and blame the bus driver.

I hope they are also used to identify and sack bus drivers who aggressively tailgate the vehicles in front of them, usually in the cases when that vehicle's driver has the gall to be obeying the speed limit.

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