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Are we becoming more stupid? Human brain has been 'shrinking for the last 20,000 years'
By Daily Mail Reporter
Last updated at 6:05 PM on 31st December 2010
My Stories It's not something we'd like to admit, but it seems the human race may actually be becoming increasingly dumb.
Man's brain has been gradually shrinking over the last 20,000 years, according to a new report.
This decrease in size follows two million years during which the human cranium steadily grew in size, and it's happened all over the world, to both sexes and every race.

About two years ago I picked up a book on Roman Emperor Augustus and how he ran the Empire. An administrative genius that seemed to have a grip on multiple aspects of the Empire that I could not imagine anyone being able to match today. Had the same thoughts watching a WW1 film where men simply "went over the top" into gunfire that systematically killed them all. I said to myself, why couldn't they borrow something from the Ancient Greeks or Romans and go into battle with full armour (Roman Toitoise etc).

Dumb and dumber is how to characterise most of our leaders today. The fact that the Newlabour "genius" believed debt was good and that he could elmiinate the business cycle was really quite startling to me. How could these people be in office I said to myself.

I think the DM article has at last confirmed my theory of years ago: we are getting thicker and the process has been going on for years.

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Dictatorships are much easier to run than Democracies - the rule of fear tends to make people do their jobs.

If you can send someone and his/ger family into slavery, to the slave galleys, into forced prostitution, into the front lines of the army or simply cut their 'bits' off... or their head... then you tend to have a more efficient Society.

Look at the Greek Persian wars - the Greek City States were being invaded, over several decades, by the Persians and despite having vast Persian Armies on their land the Greeks still debated, argued the toss and disagreed about whether they should fight or not.

For as much as people criticise both the US and UK do you really think that we would have problems in the Middle East today with terrorism if both our countries were dictatorships?

I imagine when Caesar Augustus told people to jump they said "How Hi sire?" as their feet were leaving the ground.

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20,000 years, eh!

Who's the first to blame it on Socialism? :lol:

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Dictatorships are much easier to run than Democracies - the rule of fear tends to make people do their jobs.

If you can send someone and his/ger family into slavery, to the slave galleys, into forced prostitution, into the front lines of the army or simply cut their 'bits' off... or their head... then you tend to have a more efficient Society.

Look at the Greek Persian wars - the Greek City States were being invaded, over several decades, by the Persians and despite having vast Persian Armies on their land the Greeks still debated, argued the toss and disagreed about whether they should fight or not.

For as much as people criticise both the US and UK do you really think that we would have problems in the Middle East today with terrorism if both our countries were dictatorships?

I imagine when Caesar Augustus told people to jump they said "How Hi sire?" as their feet were leaving the ground.

I don't think it has much to do with the system of government but rather a biological process of decay. It makes sense from a physics perspective as atrophy is a law. Humans are simply deteriorating with each successive generation. Order to chaos theory proved again!

That is why our economy is getting in a greater and greater mess. The politicians and the bureaucrats are becomng too thick to cope with it all. 200 years ago and we would never have had people like Brown, Cameron etc. in the top job. Just look at who Labour have as Chancellor FFS.

Would Madoff have gotten away with such a scam a couple of centuruies ago and have people simply become thicker and do not recognise a scam when they see one?

The process may be accelerating as the need to dumb everything down quickens a pace.

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Dictatorships are much easier to run than Democracies - the rule of fear tends to make people do their jobs.

If you can send someone and his/ger family into slavery, to the slave galleys, into forced prostitution, into the front lines of the army or simply cut their 'bits' off... or their head... then you tend to have a more efficient Society.

Look at the Greek Persian wars - the Greek City States were being invaded, over several decades, by the Persians and despite having vast Persian Armies on their land the Greeks still debated, argued the toss and disagreed about whether they should fight or not.

For as much as people criticise both the US and UK do you really think that we would have problems in the Middle East today with terrorism if both our countries were dictatorships?

I imagine when Caesar Augustus told people to jump they said "How Hi sire?" as their feet were leaving the ground.

Hah - right up to end of 2nd WW the Polish, Jews, Slavs etc were building German stuff and deliberately sabotaging it at the same time (with watered down glue for fuselages in the messerschmitt jets, V2 mods which made them blow up or veer off correct course etc) - right under their noses!

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Hah - right up to end of 2nd WW the Polish, Jews, Slavs etc were building German stuff and deliberately sabotaging it at the same time (with watered down glue for fuselages in the messerschmitt jets, V2 mods which made them blow up or veer off correct course etc) - right under their noses!

Yes, and when found out the individuals were executed on the spot. Sometimes entire factory work-forces were executed to be replaced by more slave labour.

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Yes, and when found out the individuals were executed on the spot. Sometimes entire factory work-forces were executed to be replaced by more slave labour.

Yes but it took time to get people trained up & stuff running again and the Nazis ran out of time and resources before being overrun!

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http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-1343093/Human-brain-shrinking-20-000-years.html

Are we becoming more stupid? Human brain has been 'shrinking for the last 20,000 years'
By Daily Mail Reporter
Last updated at 6:05 PM on 31st December 2010
My Stories It's not something we'd like to admit, but it seems the human race may actually be becoming increasingly dumb.
Man's brain has been gradually shrinking over the last 20,000 years, according to a new report.
This decrease in size follows two million years during which the human cranium steadily grew in size, and it's happened all over the world, to both sexes and every race.

About two years ago I picked up a book on Roman Emperor Augustus and how he ran the Empire. An administrative genius that seemed to have a grip on multiple aspects of the Empire that I could not imagine anyone being able to match today. Had the same thoughts watching a WW1 film where men simply "went over the top" into gunfire that systematically killed them all. I said to myself, why couldn't they borrow something from the Ancient Greeks or Romans and go into battle with full armour (Roman Toitoise etc).

Dumb and dumber is how to characterise most of our leaders today. The fact that the Newlabour "genius" believed debt was good and that he could elmiinate the business cycle was really quite startling to me. How could these people be in office I said to myself.

I think the DM article has at last confirmed my theory of years ago: we are getting thicker and the process has been going on for years.

Neurologically speaking a reduction is size is far from a reduction in capacity, but eludes to an increase in efficiency as we or the most intelligent of us, use but a third of our current capacity. The development of consciousness is another area often thwarted by "dumbing down" and is the control of society attributed to the Rome Club, hierarchical societies etc.

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That is why our economy is getting in a greater and greater mess. The politicians and the bureaucrats are becomng too thick to cope with it all. 200 years ago and we would never have had people like Brown, Cameron etc. in the top job. Just look at who Labour have as Chancellor FFS.

Would Madoff have gotten away with such a scam a couple of centuruies ago and have people simply become thicker and do not recognise a scam when they see one?

If you study Ancient Rome you will see, prior to the emergence of Julius Caesar in the time when the Roman elite were supposedly honourable, that people basically bought and bribed themselves into the most senior of jobs.

Rome suffered enormous military defeats even in those times because some rich sod had bought himself command of a Roman army.

Look at Crassus - the chap who was played by Laurence Olivier in Spartacus - who basically bought all his positions of power in Rome and ended up in control of a third of the Roman Empire. He convinced himself that he was a great general, invaded Persia, got hs **** kicked, got a Roman army destroyed and was killed by having molten gold poured down is throat for his greed.

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I don't think it has much to do with the system of government but rather a biological process of decay. It makes sense from a physics perspective as atrophy is a law. Humans are simply deteriorating with each successive generation. Order to chaos theory proved again!

That is why our economy is getting in a greater and greater mess. The politicians and the bureaucrats are becomng too thick to cope with it all. 200 years ago and we would never have had people like Brown, Cameron etc. in the top job. Just look at who Labour have as Chancellor FFS.

Would Madoff have gotten away with such a scam a couple of centuruies ago and have people simply become thicker and do not recognise a scam when they see one?

The process may be accelerating as the need to dumb everything down quickens a pace.

i think you are forgetting all previous major bubbles since modern banking started, the reality is if there is ever an excess of credit/debt created you will have extreme stupidity ,irrationality, corruption and fraud in whichever chosen asset it goes into that time, from houses tulips, stocks, to sh!t on a stick they will all go parabolic if there is a belief that easy money is to be made. The really big bubblesthat collapse the economy, Current one, Roaring 20s, Railwaymania, Canalmania, South sea tend to happen in 50 to 100 year gaps (kondrattief!) i imagine this is because there needs to be enough time passed for the suffering of the last one to be forgotten, ie when everyone who remembers is dead.

Regarding the political corruption and levels of stupidity and corruption this bubble shares huge similarities to the Railway bubble in the mid 1800s so i see no real difference, are people more stupid, i dont think so, i think they remain pretty much emoltionally unchanged in the last x years, i think what you are seeing is lethargy created by the bull market of the last 40 to 80 years whichever you want to take as the start. Lethargy and complacency is always present as bull markets mature, i think youll find people are very different in 10 years once its all played out and the fake wealth has disappeared, that same lethargy is also present in the politics with it having converged to centrist within all parties(dont rock the boat politics), i think you will see a strong leader again emerge towards the back end of the decade, because it will be a necessity of the politics at that time and the parties will also revert to quite hard left/right because i think thats what the voters will want

As for madoff perhaps he should of sold shares in "a company for carrying out an undertaking of great advantage, but nobody is to know what it is", nobody would have fallen for that sort of rubbish 300 years ago, not even Newton

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For as much as people criticise both the US and UK do you really think that we would have problems in the Middle East today with terrorism if both our countries were dictatorships?

The UK and US have problems in the ME precisely because they are a dictatorship and they are supporting dictatorships. Do you think its democratic to bomb peoples homes in other countries, invade and occupy countries? Don't try to justify it with 9/11 etc, the problem goes back to the 1920's and post war period.

Its not working though is it? killing those who oppose you simply isn't effective. Iraq has been lost as is Afghanistan and the occupied territories are always going to fight against the Israelis.

Edited by Peter Hun

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I don't think it has much to do with the system of government but rather a biological process of decay. It makes sense from a physics perspective as atrophy is a law. Humans are simply deteriorating with each successive generation. Order to chaos theory proved again!

This is simply incorrect.

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This is simply incorrect.

Bert Einstein once said: "Its hard to argue with the laws of physics because they are never wrong."

I tend to agree with this and itis logical to expect a slow deterioration in all species, and matter, as the universe degrades and becomes more chaoitic. A process that began with the big bang. Steve Hawking suggests the binary code of the universe is unwinding with + and - electrons becoming more chaotic to the point where matter will eventually cancel itself out--given that the gravity in the universe is also falling into decay.

On a micro level we only have to look at our own planet and the numbers of species that are dying out. Shrinking brains and less intelligence seems logical to me and in alignment with the immutable laws of physics. Entropy cannot be beaten--it controls the universe.

That all said, this discovery and its implications will create havoc among the lesser species known as biologists!

Edited by Realistbear

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The law of physics to which I believe you are referring is known as the second law of thermodynamics. It indicates clearly that in any given closed system, the entropy will never decrease; it will either remain the same, or increase. Entropy is a thermodynamic property of a system, and has a numerical value that we can calculate. The calculation nowhere mentions anything like "order" or "chaos".

You seem to be applying this to our planet. Our planet is not a closed system. The sun is a huge great energy source. Furthermore, we continually release energy ourselves into smaller systems on earth through the burning of fuels. The most obvious flaw in your specious argument is that if brains always shrank, there never would have been any brains to begin with as none would ever have evolved. If you'd like a more immediate demonstration, I can take some water and heat it up in a kettle, and in doing so I will have decreased the entropy

I can provide more explanation if required. The fundamental flaw is trying to take a thermodynamic property and somehow make it ally with human concepts, such as order. To my mind, for example, the order in the universe is actually always increasing.

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Bert Einstein once said: "Its hard to argue with the laws of physics because they are never wrong."

I tend to agree with this and itis logical to expect a slow deterioration in all species, and matter, as the universe degrades and becomes more chaoitic. A process that began with the big bang. Steve Hawking suggests the binary code of the universe is unwinding with + and - electrons becoming more chaotic to the point where matter will eventually cancel itself out--given that the gravity in the universe is also falling into decay.

On a micro level we only have to look at our own planet and the numbers of species that are dying out. Shrinking brains and less intelligence seems logical to me and in alignment with the immutable laws of physics. Entropy cannot be beaten--it controls the universe.

That all said, this discovery and its implications will create havoc among the lesser species known as biologists!

The universe gets MORE ordered. It dies a heatdeath as a result of ENTROPY. Atropy isnt often used in Physics terminology.

The laws of ('human') physics are OFTEN wrong, and constantly evolving, eg Quantum mechanics etc

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The universe gets MORE ordered.

This is also my take on it, but of course "order" is a human concept. Right now, to me the universe looks like huge expanses of not very much at all and tiny concentrations of matter and energy; not very ordered at all. As it all spreads out, the order increases.

To others, the concentration of matter and energy in small volumes is order, and the spreading of it is disorder. Physics cares nothing for our human concepts, thankfully, and the attempts of some to cast their personal take on society (e.g. "people are getting stupider") in terms of physical laws is just embarrassing to everyone.

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This is also my take on it, but of course "order" is a human concept. Right now, to me the universe looks like huge expanses of not very much at all and tiny concentrations of matter and energy; not very ordered at all. As it all spreads out, the order increases.

To others, the concentration of matter and energy in small volumes is order, and the spreading of it is disorder. Physics cares nothing for our human concepts, thankfully.

Exactly,

......until someone 'discovers' the dark energy and dark matter might NOT result in entropy leading to heatdeath.

There is so much we just dont know..........

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It's human tendency to push everything to its extreme, whereas nature demands equilibrium. We started to deviate from our place in the natural order with agriculture - trying to dominate nature with our will, leading to the technological hubris of the modern day.

Nature will have her way in the end.

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It just might be the case that nothing has been done that is stupid at all; the debt, the wars, the clowns in charge....

perhaps it's all deliberate and cleverly constructed to appear stupid and therefore not by design.

All leading to a destination that we are unaware of because we would not be led there willingly.

The easiest way to control slaves is make them think they are free men and all that....

I reckon were all off to hell in a handcart courtesy of Baron Rothschild and his NWO, gotta admire their scheming though...ph34r.gif

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http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-1343093/Human-brain-shrinking-20-000-years.html

Are we becoming more stupid? Human brain has been 'shrinking for the last 20,000 years'
By Daily Mail Reporter
Last updated at 6:05 PM on 31st December 2010
My Stories It's not something we'd like to admit, but it seems the human race may actually be becoming increasingly dumb.
Man's brain has been gradually shrinking over the last 20,000 years, according to a new report.
This decrease in size follows two million years during which the human cranium steadily grew in size, and it's happened all over the world, to both sexes and every race.

About two years ago I picked up a book on Roman Emperor Augustus and how he ran the Empire. An administrative genius that seemed to have a grip on multiple aspects of the Empire that I could not imagine anyone being able to match today. Had the same thoughts watching a WW1 film where men simply "went over the top" into gunfire that systematically killed them all. I said to myself, why couldn't they borrow something from the Ancient Greeks or Romans and go into battle with full armour (Roman Toitoise etc).

Dumb and dumber is how to characterise most of our leaders today. The fact that the Newlabour "genius" believed debt was good and that he could elmiinate the business cycle was really quite startling to me. How could these people be in office I said to myself.

I think the DM article has at last confirmed my theory of years ago: we are getting thicker and the process has been going on for years.

I have to agree that things are bad, as I can't imagine pre-historic man being stupid enough to pay any attention to a Daily Mail 'science' story.

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It's human tendency to push everything to its extreme, whereas nature demands equilibrium.

Nature does not demand anything. Nature has no will. The physical laws at work in the universe allow for equilibrium states. They also allow for unstable states that morph into other states, and they allow for cycles of states that change back and forth.

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