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Global Warming 'will Give Britain Longer, Colder Winters'

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Global warming 'will give Britain longer, colder winters' as melting sea ice plays havoc with weather patterns

Britain will be hit by longer and colder winters in coming years because of global warming, scientists have said.

Melting Arctic Sea ice has changed wind patterns in the northern hemisphere - bringing blasts of colder air across the UK.

Scientists believe the changes could be why we have been experiencing such a bitterly cold December.

In future we are three times as likely to be hit by bitterly cold winter months because of the changing climate.

Vladimir Petoukhov, who conducted the study at the Potsdam Institute for Climate Impact in Germany, said the disappearing sea ice will have an unpredictable impact on the climate.

'This is not what one would expect. Whoever thinks that the shrinking of some far away sea-ice won't bother him could be wrong,' he said.

'There are complex interconnections in the climate system, and in the Barents-Kara Sea we have discovered a powerful feedback mechanism.

'Our results imply that several recent severe winters do not conflict with the global warming picture but rather supplement it.'

Colder winters: Warming of the polar ice cap could give us regular freezing Decembers in the future

Colder winters: Warming of the polar ice cap could give us regular freezing Decembers in the future

Rising temperatures in the Arctic - increasing at two to three times the global average - have peeled back the region's floating ice cover by 20 percent over the last three decades.

As the Arctic ice cap has melted the heat from the relatively-warm seawater escapes into the colder atmosphere above, creating an area of high pressure.

That creates clockwise winds that sweep south over the UK and northern Europe.

The study was completed last year - before Britain was hit by a freezing winter and heavy snowfall.

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Scientists say we are three times as likely to have cold winters in the future

Scientists said it was too early to say if the freezing conditions this year and last year were caused by changes in the Arctic.

But as the ice continues to melt, Britain will begin to have warmer than average winters - but not for another half a century.

Stefan Rahmstorf, professor of physics of the ocean at the Potsdam Institute, said: 'If you look ahead 40 or 50 years, these cold winters will be getting warmer because, even though you are getting an inflow of cold polar air, that air mass is getting warmer because of the greenhouse effect.

'So it's a transient phenomenon. In the long run, global warming wins out.'

The paper was published in the Journal of Geophysical Research last month.

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Always on the cards really, global warming equals global cooling.

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A few years ago they were saying the UK kids in the future won't see any snow at all , it would be a distant memory.

Now they're saying the kids will see more snow.

They just make it up as they go along.

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A few years ago they were saying the UK kids in the future won't see any snow at all , it would be a distant memory.

Now they're saying the kids will see more snow.

They just make it up as they go along.

The scientists' views change, quite literally, with the weather.

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So it will take us back to the ice ages of the 1600's or the 70s/80s style winters ?

And is this good or bad ? And what would have happened anyway without human influence, would it have been "better" or would it have been "worse" and is a cold winter actually worse for us than a wet mild one where you may get flooding ?

The answer is no one knows.

Better spend a few trillion dollars on stuff to stop it then.

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The whole global warming movement are a complete joke - a parody of their scamming, deceitful, quasi-religious selves. :angry:

(There I've said it.)

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daily wail linky

Always on the cards really, global warming equals global cooling.

One positive result of this is at least our govt will take heed and order some more snow ploughs for our airports.

It also means that potentially, it could have been at least as warm globally as it is now at any time in the last 300 years, as the little ice age could have been caused by Global Warming but not man made.

Very interesting.

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daily wail linky

Always on the cards really, global warming equals global cooling.

Great stuff

If this was the real case, loads of Glowball Warming scientists would have revealed years ago that this would be the case with all of them coming to the same conclusion from their super-aCCurate, borked, mal-adjusted computer modelling.

Meanwhile they were covering that Jones privately knew that "for the past 15 years there has been no 'statistically significant' warming."

whilst all the GREEN taxes that shove all your energy bills>everything you buy higher and higher in price were instigated by bent Govt Ministers who could lay all the blame on (ROSI)CRU(IANS).

It was Govt Ministers who were covertly supporting Jones and CRU with large taxpayer grants over the past few decades he's been con-cocting his satanic plots.

These stories and admissions are released by the elites now coz they have steam_rollered through their GREEN Energy and Carbon Credit scams/MACS onto the Worlds populations and continue to brainwash your kids in skool who will inadvertantly do the elites dirty work for them - whist elites covertly divert all the cash they are making to the Crooked 'Crocs' Caimans!

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So it will take us back to the ice ages of the 1600's or the 70s/80s style winters ?

And is this good or bad ? And what would have happened anyway without human influence, would it have been "better" or would it have been "worse" and is a cold winter actually worse for us than a wet mild one where you may get flooding ?

The answer is no one knows.

Better spend a few trillion dollars on stuff to stop it then.

Or even 18,000 BC, that would really bugger up house prices in the UK.

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I think Canute had it right! ;)

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these aren't the droids your looking for

The foolish Moonbat, along with his colleagues is plumbing new depths of stupidity, insisting in the loathsome Guardian that the "unusually cold winters" are caused by global warming.

It is not that he does not have a case (even if it is not very good). What makes him so deservedly look the fool it that he, alongside the climate establishment, has spent the last decade or more trying to convince us that milder winters are a sure sign of global warming. Now, in the manner of Winston Smith, Moonbat seems to believe that he can rewrite history and we will not notice.

The problem for him is that the global warming industry has been so unequivocal in its certainty that milder winters were a sign of climate change. On 4 June 1999, for instance, Science Daily was reporting on a Nature paper, stating that a team of scientists from Columbia University had shown that warm winters in the northern hemisphere "likely can be explained by the action of upper-atmosphere winds that are closely linked to global warming".

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Anyone who think humans control the Earths' climate are ******ing lunatics and need to be put in some sort of clinical hospital.

We are but a fragment of a fragment of a fragment of a fragment of a piece of sand on a ****** off beach of the galaxy that is a tiny part of what we know as the Universe.

That is all.

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I thought that despite last year's cold winter, it had in fact been unusually warm last year, and this was why global warming was FACT!

Iirc, last years cold winter was the warmest on record...in fact it is technically possible, given the way these things are defined, for a given year to be both the warmest and the coldest...which of course would mean serious climate disruption was upon us. Heads they win, tails you lose, and if it lands on the edge, then they win double.

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Wow - BBC have actually given a big story to the cold weather.

Coldest December for 100 years

I had a google for a similar story from a few years back.

2006 breaks British heat records

One has input and chat from the CRU and states "The figures support recent research... which showed links between human behaviour and the warming trend" whilst the other does not mention climate change,global warming or anything similar.

Care to guess which is which :rolleyes:

As others have said. They will happily use the 'weather' to back up climate change when they feel like it. Then go on to tell everyone that 'weather is diffeerent to climate' when they feel like it. Quite scandalous really. This bull takes away from the actual debate which is far more interesting.

They are conning the people and this takes away from any decent research they may well in fact be doing. Is it really too much to ask those in positions of power to be honest with folk ?!

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Always on the cards really, global warming equals globalmay become local cooling.

Corrected for you.

Nothing new there. I recollect writing about it in about 1997/8.

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Corrected for you.

Nothing new there. I recollect writing about it in about 1997/8.

Cheers. I fail to see how North America, and Asia, who are all having very cold snap are local to the U.K.

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Anyone have running temperature averages for December? Looking very likely to be below average (worldwide)

CRU and NCDC behind the mark , no figures even for November ; they spending extra time thinking up new ways to keep the global warming con alive?

http://theinconvenientskeptic.com/2010/12/december-2010-global-temperature-update/

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RSS:

No chance that 2010 will surpass 1998. The December anomaly would have to be 0.75 °C for the average to exceed the 0.551 °C in 1998 that is the highest year according to the RSS data. As November was 0.312 °C and the average has dropped, 1998 will retain the title.

UAH:

This one will be close, but if the November anomaly of 0.38 °C repeats, then 1998 will remain the warmest year for this satellite data. If the December anomaly is 0.0 °C or less it won’t even be close as 2010 will have an anomaly of less than 0.5 °C.

CRU:

By comparing the trend with the UAH and RSS that have November data I am predicting about a 0.6 °C for November and a 0.3 °C for December. With those values 2010 comes in behind 1998 and 2005 with about a 0.7 °C anomaly for the year. Even if November and December had a 1.0 °C anomaly, 1998 would retain the title.

NCDC:

If you compare warm years to each other, this data set doesn’t match any of the others. It has 2005 and 2002 as warmer than 1998. It will show 2010 as warmer than 1998, but probably not warmer than 2005. November would have to be 0.6 °C and December 0.5 °C for that to happen. So 2005 will retain the record as the warmest year. NCDC is so different from the other sets it is hard to predict. I am clearly using V2 as the bias in V3 is rather obnoxious.

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Cheers. I fail to see how North America, and Asia, who are all having very cold snap are local to the U.K.

Er, who? California exceptionally warm for the season. Other parts of the world may be warmer or colder than their averages - that's natural variation.

I thought your OP was referring to the possibility - which has long been known - of global warming leading to local cooling in Northwest Europe. If it wasn't something on that theme then maybe I responded to the wrong question.

Not that a couple of cold-ish winters tell us much. This one (2011) fits the 16-year-cycle hypothesis for what that may be worth (1947/1963 much talked about, 1979 I remember the icicles in my eyebrows, would leave 1995 as a questionmark 'cos I was out of the country).

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Iirc, last years cold winter was the warmest on record...in fact it is technically possible, given the way these things are defined, for a given year to be both the warmest and the coldest...which of course would mean serious global warming, climate change, climate disruption was upon us. Heads they win, tails you lose, and if it lands on the edge, then they win double.

It's all a game, a costly one at that. Too much money, too much zeolotry. Akin to a Trojan Horse being wheeled into the world of the sane.

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