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1 In 7 Americans Rely On Food Stamps (Some Areas Have 1 To 5 Ratio)

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The use of food stamps has increased dramatically in the U.S., as the federal government ramps up basic assistance to meet the demands of an increasingly desperate population.

The number of food stamp recipients increased 16% over last year. This means that 14% of the population is now living on food stamps. That's about 43 million people, or about one out of every seven Americans.

some states, like Tennessee, Mississippi, New Mexico and Oregon, one in five people are receiving food stamps. Washington, D.C. leads the nation, with 21.5% of the population on food stamps.

"The high unemployment rate caused the high participation rate," said Dottie Rosenbaum from the Center for Budget and Policy Priorities, a think tank.

But it's not just the nation's stubbornly high unemployment rate of 9.8% that's driving the increase in food stamp use. Some states are expanding their definitions of poverty to include more people.

At the same time, the 2009 American Recovery and Reinvestment Act boosted annual funding to the nationwide food stamp program, known as the Supplemental Nutrition Assistance Program, by $10 billion.

The average recipient receives $133 in food stamps per month, according to the U.S. Department of Agriculture. That amount varies from state to state; in Hawaii the average is $216, while it's $116 in Wisconsin.

But the Recovery Act funding increased the maximum food stamp benefit by 13.6%, which translates to about $20-24 dollars per person per month.

The U.S. government considers food stamps to be effective stimulus for the economy, because the recipients usually spend them right away.

Idaho saw the biggest increase in its food stamp program, with a spike of 39% compared to last year, followed by Nevada, at 29%, and New Jersey, at 27%.

New Jersey's food stamp program expanded at least in part because the state raised its poverty level in April, according to Nicole Brossoie of the state Department of Human Services. That let the state add 35,000 people to its food stamp rolls, an increase of 5%.

Also, Brossoie said that program has been made more accessible to poverty-stricken residents.

"Through newsletters, posters, counseling and other outreach, the stigma associated with food stamps has diminished and more individuals and families are seeking assistance," she said.

What happens when the jobless give up?

The government is also beefing up unemployment benefits. The unemployed will get a 13-month extension to file for additional unemployment benefits, which can last as long as 99 weeks in states hit hardest by job loss.

As the job market continues to dog the economy, the increase in food stamp funding is set to remain in place for nearly three years.

Dottie Rosenbaum said the hike in food stamp benefits is set to expire Nov. 1, 2013. Typically, food stamp funding increases every year to match inflation. But if Congress does not extend the stimulus funding beyond the 2013 cutoff, then food stamp benefits will revert to their original levels, but still be adjusted for inflation.

She said the budget office is forecasting a potential drop of $49 a month in food stamp benefits for a family of three, or $59 for a family of four, if the stimulus program is not continued.

President Obama, while signing a child nutrition bill on Dec. 13, said he was working with members of Congress to extend the food stamp funding.

Shocking numbers, especially when you weigh this against the image that corporate/diplomatic America pimps out to the rest of the world. Add in all the homeless and non-recoreded immigrants, and all those on the borderline with financial disaster and you get the real picture.

This IS state failure.

Some Food Stamp Facts:

Who can get food stamps?

Anyone can apply for food stamps. To get food stamps, you and the other people in your household must meet certain conditions. Everyone who is applying in your household must have or apply for a Social Security number and be either a U.S. citizen, U.S. national or have status as a qualified alien.

The following qualified aliens are eligible for food stamps without a waiting period:

•Legal immigrant children under age 18;
•Blind or disabled legal immigrants who receive disability assistance or benefits;
•Individuals born on or before August 22, 1931, and who legally resided in the United States on
August 22, 1996;
•Lawful permanent residents who are active duty members or veterans of the U.S. armed forces or a spouse or a child of a veteran or active duty service member;
•Refugees admitted under section 207 of the Immigration and Nationality Act (INA);
•Asylees under section 208 of the INA;
•Deportees or removal withheld under section 243(h) or 241( B )(3) of the INA;
•Cuban or Haitian entrants under section 501(e) of the Refugee Education Assistance Act of 1980;
•Amerasian immigrants under section 584 of the Foreign Operations, Export Financing and Related Programs Appropriations Act of 1988.

The following legal aliens are eligible ­without a waiting period even if they are not “qualified aliens:

•Hmong or Highland Laotian tribal ­members (including their spouses and children)
who helped the U.S. military during the Vietnam era;
•American Indians born in Canada;
•Members of Indian tribes under section 4(e) of the Indian Self-Determination and Education Assistance Act (25 U.S.C. 450b(e)).

The following qualified aliens are eligible if they have lived in the U.S. for five years in qualified status:

•Lawful permanent residents (they may be ­eligible sooner than five years if they have
40 work credits);
•Parolees (paroled for at least one year under section 212(d)(5) of INA);
•Conditional entrants under 203(a)(7) of INA in effect prior to April 1, 1980;
•A battered spouse, battered child or ­parent or child of a battered person with a petition pending under 204(a)(1)(A) or ( B ) or 244(a)(3) of INA.[/iMost able-bodied people between the ages of 18 and 60 must register for work to qualify for food stamps. Many people may be required to participate in an employment or training program. Some college students also may be eligible.

Resources (things you own)

Generally, your household cannot have more than $2,000 in resources. But, if your household includes a person age 60 or older or who is disabled, the limit is $3,000. Resources of people who receive Supplemental Security Income (SSI) or benefits under the Temporary Assistance for Needy Families (TANF) program are not counted for food stamp purposes. Resources include cash, bank accounts and other property.

Not all the things you own count. For ­example, your home and the land it is on do not count for food stamp eligibility. A car or truck counts differently depending on how it is used. Most states now use TANF rules in place of food stamp vehicle rules if the TANF rules are more beneficial to the food stamp household.

Most households also must meet an income limit. Certain things do not count as income and can be subtracted from your income. Your household may qualify for other income exclusions if it includes a person age 60 or older or disabled. The income limits vary by household size and may change each year.

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How can you apply for food stamps?

Food stamp applications are available at any Social Security office. If you and everyone in your household are applying for or already getting SSI payments, any Social Security office will help you fill out the food stamp application and send it to the food stamp office for you.

All others, including those applying for or getting only Social Security, must take or send their food stamp applications to the local food stamp office or to any Social Security office where a food stamp representative works.

When you are interviewed, you also should have:

◦Identification such as a driver’s license, state ID, birth certificate or alien card;
◦Proof of income such as pay stubs, Social Security, SSI or a pension for each member of your household;
◦Proof of how much you spend for child care;
◦Rent receipts or proof of your mortgage payments;
◦Records of your utility costs; and
◦Medical bills for those members of your household age 60 or older, and for those who receive government payments such as Social Security or SSI because they are disabled.

Most people are ineligible, and if you have $2000 (about £1300) in assets, you are off the list.

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Not surprising when unemployment in the US on the wider measure is somewhere around 22% ....not the image that the US media and Hollywood like to tell the rest of the world but the reality none the less.... What going to happen when the US States start to default on their debt?

It would be interesting to know what percentage of people in Germany, France, Japan are on their equivalent of food stamps.

Perhaps some versions of capitalism are better at delivering than others?

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Shocking numbers, especially when you weigh this against the image that corporate/diplomatic America pimps out to the rest of the world. Add in all the homeless and non-recoreded immigrants, and all those on the borderline with financial disaster and you get the real picture.

This IS state failure.

Some Food Stamp Facts:

Most people are ineligible, and if you have $2000 (about £1300) in assets, you are off the list.

Put another way, there are 43 million Ameicans (14% of the population) with less than $2,000 in assets. That doesn't sound like a rich country to me.

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Put another way, there are 43 million Ameicans (14% of the population) with less than $2,000 in assets. That doesn't sound like a rich country to me.

Asset rich cash poor.

Probably same as here. You can be a property millionaire with half a tonne of family silver about the place and that mug called the taxpayer will take on all your greed driven liabilities.

But have over £16k in savings to your name and nothing else and the govt kicks you to the curb for not playing by their upside down rules.

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But it's not just the nation's stubbornly high unemployment rate of 9.8% that's driving the increase in food stamp use. Some states are expanding their definitions of poverty to include more people.

At the same time, the 2009 American Recovery and Reinvestment Act boosted annual funding to the nationwide food stamp program, known as the Supplemental Nutrition Assistance Program, by $10 billion.

The average recipient receives $133 in food stamps per month, according to the U.S. Department of Agriculture. That amount varies from state to state; in Hawaii the average is $216, while it's $116 in Wisconsin.

But the Recovery Act funding increased the maximum food stamp benefit by 13.6%, which translates to about $20-24 dollars per person per month.

The U.S. government considers food stamps to be effective stimulus for the economy, because the recipients usually spend them right away.

Sounds like a helicopter to me.

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Shocking numbers, especially when you weigh this against the image that corporate/diplomatic America pimps out to the rest of the world. Add in all the homeless and non-recoreded immigrants, and all those on the borderline with financial disaster and you get the real picture.

This IS state failure.

Some Food Stamp Facts:

Most people are ineligible, and if you have $2000 (about £1300) in assets, you are off the list.

It's incredibly easy for them to hide assets. Tons of people don't even have bank accounts in the US. You take your pay check to a check cashing place and get cash money. Everywhere takes cash, I can pay my rent, internet, cellphone, car loan, even insurance and tax with cash. I just go to the office and hand them the money.

The welfare people will even call you and warn you which day they are going to do an eligibility check so you can be sure you don't have too much money in the bank. And they only know about what you voluntarily report.

I guarantee every one of those families on food stamps spends $70+ on cable or satellite. They also like to dump all their money in to an expensive cars, big TVs, xbox, iphones, $200 sneakers, etc.

For a household of 4 people you can have a net income of $22k a year and still qualify.

All income and resources must be reported when you apply. Although certain types of income may be excluded, most is counted in determining eligibility and the amount of food assistance benefits for the household. Food assistance income limits go up as household size increases. The following can be deducted from total gross monthly income to determine monthly net Income:

* to cover basic household expenses, a standard deduction will be subtracted

* to cover work-related expenses and payroll taxes, a 20% deduction will be subtracted from earned income

* to cover dependent care expenses, a deduction for actual costs will be subtracted

* to cover high shelter expenses, a deduction for actual costs, up to the maximum allowed, may be subtracted

* to cover legally obligated child support payments, a deduction for actual payments will be subtracted

All households may have up to $2,000 worth of resources. Households may have up to $3,000 if at least one member is age 60 or older or is disabled.

Some countable resources that apply toward the $2,000 (or $3,000) limit are:

* cash, checking and savings accounts

* U.S. Savings Bonds

* Savings Certificates

* buildings or land (except family home)

* jointly owned resources

Certain Resources are exempt, such as:

* the home where you live

* cars and other vehicles

* life insurance policies

* income-producing real estate (if the property annually produces income consistent with its fair market value)

* tradesman tools and farm machinery

I could live in a $300,000 house, drive a Lexus, and earn 21k+ a year and still qualify for food stamps.

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Put another way, there are 43 million Ameicans (14% of the population) with less than $2,000 in assets. That doesn't sound like a rich country to me.

The American model is clearly not working; Socialist Europe (inc. UK) does not seem to be working either, I am genuinely wondering in what sort of society we ought to live? Any thought anyone?

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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_percentage_of_population_living_in_poverty

Seems that we have 14% (about 1 in 7) of our lot on the poverty line compared with the US at 12% (or about 1 in 8). Germany 11%

Looks like we are worse off than even the US. And after a decade of HPI!!!

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Thinking about it, to have 14% of our population on the poverty line is a shattering indictment on our nation. Blame Brown for HPI and the poverty it caused but the new lot seem to be indifferent to the issue.

The billions paid in benefits by way of housing, food, and simple handouts is breaking us and something will have to give soon.

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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_percentage_of_population_living_in_poverty

Seems that we have 14% (about 1 in 7) of our lot on the poverty line compared with the US at 12% (or about 1 in 8). Germany 11%

Looks like we are worse off than even the US. And after a decade of HPI!!!

Germany still stands out as the best run at the moment.

The size of their state relative to GDP and ours is similar yet they seem to be much more effective at delivering serices to their people that we are.

The familiar refrain arises again. They limit social rents to much lower levels than our HB etc so they have much more money to spend on other social services.

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The American model is clearly not working; Socialist Europe (inc. UK) does not seem to be working either, I am genuinely wondering in what sort of society we ought to live? Any thought anyone?

Some of us here on this forum have been wondering the same thing and debating about different ideas. I think first we have to accept that the old and very successful post-war model of everyone, men and women working a 40 hour work week, and using their paycheques to participate in the economy.. it is fading as an economic model.

The really good jobs like utilities, port workers, rail, auto plants, steel.. they need so few people nowadays that they aren't the mass employers and drivers of the economy as days gone by. Now it really is the state that is distributing the money and driving the demand in the economy. Like when the millions of well paid government workers paycheques hit their accounts.

Food stamps seems a fairly decent way to get money into the hands of people to me. But increasingly the state is covering more and more, like housing and medical care even for families, even for people who are working full time.

Its quite a change though societally. Many good honest people, of say 90iq are finding they exist because the government throws money their way. Not based on their own work and reward for work. And every year it the bar moves up, with more needing help to make ends meet.

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Some of us here on this forum have been wondering the same thing and debating about different ideas. I think first we have to accept that the old and very successful post-war model of everyone, men and women working a 40 hour work week, and using their paycheques to participate in the economy.. it is fading as an economic model.

The really good jobs like utilities, port workers, rail, auto plants, steel.. they need so few people nowadays that they aren't the mass employers and drivers of the economy as days gone by. Now it really is the state that is distributing the money and driving the demand in the economy. Like when the millions of well paid government workers paycheques hit their accounts.

Food stamps seems a fairly decent way to get money into the hands of people to me. But increasingly the state is covering more and more, like housing and medical care even for families, even for people who are working full time.

Its quite a change though societally. Many good honest people, of say 90iq are finding they exist because the government throws money their way. Not based on their own work and reward for work. And every year it the bar moves up, with more needing help to make ends meet.

This new model of the government being the main driver of the economy seems wholly unsustainable, yet, i agree it is all around us...

My question is.. how can this be continued? Unless national governments in a command economy type-way kinda control the global system, economically, socially, politically, etc... but ain't this just 1984, improbable maybe, impossible maybe not :ph34r:

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Meanwhile the incomes of the top few percent just keep on going up. The world economy seems to be efficient at the moment in creating two different groups- poor people and millionaires/ Billionaires.

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Meanwhile the incomes of the top few percent just keep on going up. The world economy seems to be efficient at the moment in creating two different groups- poor people and millionaires/ Billionaires.

And HPI was the vehicle the banks used pull this off. Create a means of indebting the masses and cause them to become dependent debt slaves. Use the one thing people must have (apart from food and clothing) and BINGO a brave new world emerges where control and the lifestyle is in the hands of the few. Much like Soviet Russia and China. Only HPI was big enoough to give the banks control as it was the only thing people would be willing to sell their lives and the lives of the next generation for.

HPI really is a curse on civilised society.

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This new model of the government being the main driver of the economy seems wholly unsustainable, yet, i agree it is all around us...

My question is.. how can this be continued? Unless national governments in a command economy type-way kinda control the global system, economically, socially, politically, etc... but ain't this just 1984, improbable maybe, impossible maybe not :ph34r:

Seems

Good question. One aspect, the large government deficits to provide stimulus, can be continued for a long time, as long as the private sector is deleveraging.

Other aspects are problematic, like how will the government distribute the money? Historically the lion's share goes to a few people, which wasn't that big of a deal when government was a small part of the economy. Like we see that wih like council bosses and contractors making big money.

In a command economy the state can make brilliant decisions, like France's EDF going nuclear in the 70's and 80's. But often they follow the trendy, but totally unnworkable ideas like 'green energy'.

Although having said that it appears to me the private sector will run almost everything. And do it with a few people. But the state will play the role of re-distributor of the wealth. No one who gets money distributed to them from the state will make anything like the big and successful people on the free market.

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