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Libdem Lord Oakeshott Is A Property Vi Misleading B@stard

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He knows precisely how wealth transfer works, and has profited from it massively. A very dangersous manipulative individual in my opinion.

But if he want to keep property prices high, in his own self interest, then why did he say that high prices are a "curse for the young. They transfer wealth from the young to the old and from the have-nots to the haves in society." ?? :huh:

I really don't get this guy. He just doesn't make sense.

And with a Oxford PPE, he can't be this stupid.

IMHO the most likely possibility is that he's losing some of his mental health, really. At least partially. I don't mean he is crazy, but just that in this issue his mind is doing some intellectual contortionisms there. But I am not a psychologist. I am just guessing here.

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You're all getting a bit too confused, and trying to read too much into what he has said.

As a politician, he will say and do what he believes will provide him with as much profit and power for as long as possible.

It's in the blood.

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You're all getting a bit too confused, and trying to read too much into what he has said.

As a politician, he will say and do what he believes will provide him with as much profit and power for as long as possible.

It's in the blood.

I fully agree with that. But if in the same paragraph he says that property prices are too high and that banks should lend more, then he comes across as either a nutter, a moron, or a b@stard.

I am just curious of which one (combination?) it is.

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Of course this would make a great story, but the media just won't run with it. They are on the same side as the politicians wanting to keep house prices high. And I have given up on the hope that the majority of people will ever understand that lower house prices is good for them.

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Of course this would make a great story, but the media just won't run with it. They are on the same side as the politicians wanting to keep house prices high.

Unfortunately, I think you are right. Sadly.

And I have given up on the hope that the majority of people will ever understand that lower house prices is good for them.

Ouch. :( Yes... you are probably right again, of course.

:(

( Please try to write in a more sensitive way next time? A little warning perhaps? Some caveats? A silver lining somewhere? :unsure: )

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I fully agree with that. But if in the same paragraph he says that property prices are too high and that banks should lend more, then he comes across as either a nutter, a moron, or a b@stard.

I am just curious of which one (combination?) it is.

He comes across to me as one who has children and money, but is too tight (or the money is locked into assets - property?) to act as the Bank of Mum&Dad. Wants the tax-payer funded banks to step up to the plate on his behalf.

I'll go with barsteward.

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He comes across to me as one who has children and money, but is too tight (or the money is locked into assets - property?) to act as the Bank of Mum&Dad. Wants the tax-payer funded banks to step up to the plate on his behalf.

I'll go with barsteward.

For years ive been telling theses forums that a lot of MPs have there hands on properties, thats why certain laws after 1997 were introduced thats why pre 1997 council homes were sold off, its about the reduction in state own homes pushing people into the private sector making these guys even rich. The privatisation of state run infrastructure companies has been just been a ploy to get tax payers to fund their profits, just like house building and rents.

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I fully agree with that. But if in the same paragraph he says that property prices are too high and that banks should lend more, then he comes across as either a nutter, a moron, or a b@stard.

I am just curious of which one (combination?) it is.

He has to try to keep the young off the streets, he has to try to kid along the more dense owners and "owners" as long as possible or they might join the young on the streets, he and his chums know exactly what is going on but are probably startled by the implications of low credit availability for their chances of remaining in power?

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:lol: Really?! You are joking.

Ah... apparently not. It said that was his name in the news report Realist Bear extracted/quoted here, but isn't now on the report here. So either the report has changed or Realist Bear spoofed us all.

Shame. I like my Lords to have amusing names.

Maybe there's a bit of rewriting history going on, like how we're not supposed to call our current Chancellor by his real name Osborne?

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Update! 09 Feb 2011

(Oakshott Fired)

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1355328/Nick-Clegg-forced-sack-Treasury-spokesman-pours-scorn-weasel-Osbornes-deal-banks.html

Remember their being a thread on this VI doofus a few months back, upset that banks arent lending more to get house prices rising again.

He has a large property portfolio too IIRC.

One less ponzi puppet in the govt, hopefully.

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For years ive been telling theses forums that a lot of MPs have there hands on properties, thats why certain laws after 1997 were introduced thats why pre 1997 council homes were sold off, ....//....

Mate of mine is a teacher deep in the West Country. State school; staff common room filled with lefties/lib-dem types. WELL -- apparently LOADS and LOADS of these Guardian-reading do-gooders have been gathering up little BTL "nest eggs" over the last 10 years - LOADS of them!!!

And my mate says - he often tries to explain to these BTL-owning teachers that the WHOLE property "market" is propped up high on stilts standing on SAND..... He explains to them how LIAR LOANS got the "market" to this position/situation - and that - in the end -- the whole thing is either going to slowly sink into the sand - or - Irish style - Topple over spectacularly.......

But -- V interesting that there are large numbers of teachers out there who have become budding "BTL investors" [suckers :D ].

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Mate of mine is a teacher deep in the West Country. State school; staff common room filled with lefties/lib-dem types. WELL -- apparently LOADS and LOADS of these Guardian-reading do-gooders have been gathering up little BTL "nest eggs" over the last 10 years - LOADS of them!!!

And my mate says - he often tries to explain to these BTL-owning teachers that the WHOLE property "market" is propped up high on stilts standing on SAND..... He explains to them how LIAR LOANS got the "market" to this position/situation - and that - in the end -- the whole thing is either going to slowly sink into the sand - or - Irish style - Topple over spectacularly.......

But -- V interesting that there are large numbers of teachers out there who have become budding "BTL investors" [suckers :D ].

...they are all aspiring champagne socialists ...and wear sandals with socks on the beach like any true dedicated liberal.... :rolleyes:

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...they are all aspiring champagne socialists ...and wear sandals with socks on the beach like any true dedicated liberal.... :rolleyes:

Oakeshott soundbite in today's Grauniad, still spinning the same disc:

http://www.guardian.co.uk/business/2012/mar/29/mortgage-borrowers-triple-whammy

Lord Oakeshott, the former Lib Dem Treasury spokesman, said: "There will be no green shoots in our economic garden while banks are blocking the hosepipe."

With thanks to Democorruptcy for rasing this thread!

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