SarahBell Posted December 10, 2010 Share Posted December 10, 2010 I've just seen a stat: 600,000 babies born every year So if the 450000 figure quotes for students is per year that's 75% of them - so that doesn't sound right... so if it's 450000 is that for all three years of undergrad or a total of all part timers... and post grads?) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RichB Posted December 10, 2010 Share Posted December 10, 2010 Dunno, but if they all protest left university and signed on for a year, perhaps that would get them noticed... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
enrieb Posted December 10, 2010 Share Posted December 10, 2010 I've just seen a stat: 600,000 babies born every year So if the 450000 figure quotes for students is per year that's 75% of them - so that doesn't sound right... so if it's 450000 is that for all three years of undergrad or a total of all part timers... and post grads?) I don't know the exact figures, but students spend between 3-5 years at college and university, so your going to have a new influx of students each year and others from previous years at different stages. If perhaps 80-100,000 students enter the system each year it would give a figure around 450,000. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rented Posted December 10, 2010 Share Posted December 10, 2010 (edited) I've just seen a stat: 600,000 babies born every year So if the 450000 figure quotes for students is per year that's 75% of them - so that doesn't sound right... so if it's 450000 is that for all three years of undergrad or a total of all part timers... and post grads?) Take away overseas students from the 450,000. Edited December 10, 2010 by rented Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keef Posted December 10, 2010 Share Posted December 10, 2010 Dunno, but if they all protest left university and signed on for a year, perhaps that would get them noticed... Spooky, that's exactly what I was saying in the pub last night. If they don't want to pay it (& I wouldn't have gone to university for an initial £27k) they should all conspire to sign on for a year after their 'A' Levels in 2012, that'd bring the universities & DSS to their knees. Incidentally some degrees are 7 years (medicine, architecture etc). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Executive Sadman Posted December 10, 2010 Share Posted December 10, 2010 Didnt liebour force everyone to stay in school till 18 instead of 16, not to keep unemployment stats down or anything. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
19 year mortgage 8itch Posted December 10, 2010 Share Posted December 10, 2010 (edited) Spooky, that's exactly what I was saying in the pub last night. If they don't want to pay it (& I wouldn't have gone to university for an initial £27k) they should all conspire to sign on for a year after their 'A' Levels in 2012, that'd bring the universities & DSS to their knees. This would gain far more respect from me than weeing on churchill. oh, yeeeeeeeeeees! Edited December 10, 2010 by daiking Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Elk Posted December 10, 2010 Share Posted December 10, 2010 from http://www.hesa.ac.uk/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=1798&Itemid=297 Students 2,396,050 -Undergrads -1,859,240 -Postgrads -536,810 Staff 382,760 -Academic -179,040 -Non-academic -203,720 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SarahBell Posted December 10, 2010 Author Share Posted December 10, 2010 So if the 450k the current year? Or has it been made up? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yokel Posted December 10, 2010 Share Posted December 10, 2010 Dunno, but if they all protest left university and signed on for a year, perhaps that would get them noticed... Also suggested something similar to Mrs Y this morning. If the projected 2012 intake of students - due to start applying this coming Autumn, just didn't, or all applied for a deferred entry for a year and signed on - the system couldn't cope. Another thought - If you leave uni with a debt of, say, £30k, and don't get a well paid job. Can you immediately file for bankruptcy - or does student loan debt stay unaffected by that? If not, there could be nice industry in making graduates bankrupt then they can start again within a couple of years. And, while I'm on here - I remember seeing (in Private Eye) a process chart for the Student loan system - it basically used the kind of CDO and `special vehicles' that at that time (2008) were emerging as the root of all evil. Why is no-one, journos, politicos, student leaders, questioning the details of the money - its sourcing and handling? Y Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Uttley Posted December 10, 2010 Share Posted December 10, 2010 Another thought - If you leave uni with a debt of, say, £30k, and don't get a well paid job. Can you immediately file for bankruptcy - or does student loan debt stay unaffected by that? If not, there could be nice industry in making graduates bankrupt then they can start again within a couple of years. Short answer. No. If you are granted bankruptcy the student debt remains. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bingobob Posted December 10, 2010 Share Posted December 10, 2010 Short answer. No. If you are granted bankruptcy the student debt remains. What if you go and work abroad after you graduate? What if you fail or drop out of the course? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RichB Posted December 10, 2010 Share Posted December 10, 2010 Why is no-one, journos, politicos, student leaders, questioning the details of the money - its sourcing and handling? That is a really good question to apply to almost all levels of whats wrong in society today, local councils, pfi, privatisation, mortgages, banks, btl, the works... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
christhpc Posted December 10, 2010 Share Posted December 10, 2010 1. What if you go and work abroad after you graduate? 2. What if you fail or drop out of the course? 1. You have to make arrangements with HMRC / the SLC to repay it once you're earning. People not doing so will be subject to 'penalties'. I suspect as the SLC becomes more 'commercialised' (Gordon Brown sold the SLC loans to the private sector back in 2007) they'll be watching ex-pats more closely... 2. Best not to drop out Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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