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Would You Vote For A Nationalist Socialist Party

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Ive noticed a massive upswing in the desire for big government since the Coalition has come to power (im sure its always been there, just now is more vocal) but also disillusion with the globalisation programme, single currency, EU, multicultural experiment and continued immigration surpessing wages and providing excess competition for precious jobs.

It seems the only a truly nationalist socialist government can solve both these ills.

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Not wanting new immigrants is where i draw the line. 'Solving' the current ones is something else!

Generally, the furthest i would go is Pinochet-esque government, factoring out any (alleged) state murdering.

Said this in a pub amongst left-leaning drinkers with halarious consequnces. I think its the 'alleged' that really gets up 'em. :D

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Ive only old enough to have been interested in politics in Nulab world, but apparently pre 2000 or so, the buzzword was 'integration' - the leftists really thought they could be naturalized and assimilated, regardless of their numbers and cultures.

The birth of 'multiculturalism' (read, segregation behind the curtains) is an admission they were wrong.

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Ive noticed a massive upswing in the desire for big government since the Coalition has come to power (im sure its always been there, just now is more vocal) but also disillusion with the globalisation programme, single currency, EU, multicultural experiment and continued immigration surpessing wages and providing excess competition for precious jobs.

It seems the only a truly nationalist socialist government can solve both these ills.

A smaller not larger state is needed. I doubt any "socialist" government would be capable of shrinking the state - most likely the opposite in fact. I have no desire for totalitarian approaches either.

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It seems the only a truly nationalist socialist government can solve both these ills.

Do you mean what the Germans called "Nationalsozialistische Deutsche Arbeiterpartei" , or National Socialist German Workers' Party in English - Nazi party for short? :lol:

I might well vote for a proper socialist democratic party if there was one, but it would be internationalist rather than nationalist.

I think we're coming around to seeing the benefits of a planned economy, since we've had the opposite for several decades and it's all falling apart around our ears. I don't mean totalitarianism, but state ownership of businesses is no more remote from the man in the street than having those businesses owned by huge unaccountable global corporations.

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Racism. National Socialism and totalitarianism have no place in any civilised society.

Well, as we haven't got a civilised society, what do you suggest?

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Racism. National Socialism and totalitarianism have no place in any civilised society.

Well, as we haven't got a civilised society, what do you suggest?

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It seems the only a truly nationalist socialist government can solve both these ills.

Not saying that Hitler was a nice bloke or a Nazi controlled 'Greater Germania' would have been a blast to live under....

.....but at least he would have eliminated the Freemasonic Zionist financial elites who are succesfully bankrupting the world into slavery whilst transferring all the wealth into (their) own corporate hands.

Besides that, he was an animal lover, loved nature and the outdoors, and a vegetarian to boot!

I VOTED YES!

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Not saying that Hitler was a nice bloke or a Nazi controlled 'Greater Germania' would have been a blast to live under....

.....but at least he would have eliminated the Freemasonic Zionist financial elites who are succesfully bankrupting the world into slavery whilst transferring all the wealth into (their) own corporate hands.

Besides that, he was an animal lover, loved nature and the outdoors, and a vegetarian to boot!

I VOTED YES!

He painted too and loved his mum.

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Not saying that Hitler was a nice bloke or a Nazi controlled 'Greater Germania' would have been a blast to live under....

.....but at least he would have eliminated the Freemasonic Zionist financial elites who are succesfully bankrupting the world into slavery whilst transferring all the wealth into (their) own corporate hands.

Besides that, he was an animal lover, loved nature and the outdoors, and a vegetarian to boot!

I VOTED YES!

Oh and he wanted to rule the world.

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Do you mean what the Germans called "Nationalsozialistische Deutsche Arbeiterpartei" , or National Socialist German Workers' Party in English - Nazi party for short? :lol:

I might well vote for a proper socialist democratic party if there was one, but it would be internationalist rather than nationalist.

I think we're coming around to seeing the benefits of a planned economy, since we've had the opposite for several decades and it's all falling apart around our ears. I don't mean totalitarianism, but state ownership of businesses is no more remote from the man in the street than having those businesses owned by huge unaccountable global corporations.

I'm afraid you might be right, but I'd put it another way - we're in for a protracted period of rediscovering the inadequacy of a planned economy. Apparently we're forgetting that monetarism, the DSGE model and trickle down came about because post-war Keynesian planning in all its forms was an unmitigated disaster. And that includes the planned economies of corporatist/fascist countries like Spain, Portugal, Argentina and pre-Friedman Chile. In fact Chile is an interesting case in point. Friedman got a lot of stick for doing the tango with Pinochet, but he said to the general that open markets would be the undoing of the military government as indeed the 'Chilean miracle' proved to be.

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personally, I would love a party to come to power that would hang all previous politicians who had either supported our membership of the EU or immigration/multiculturalism, and also those who piled taxes on us so that local government supremos could get six-figure salaries. So I voted yes. there's no point in hoping for change and then recoiling from a party that had the balls to effect change - but the reality is the Establishment is so firmly in charge, they would never allow a challenge to their rule to take off. With public-sector workers, benefits scroungers, immigrants and the self-righteous among the indigenous population, as well as any clod who supports rubbish sorting into 10 bins, firmly in support of the political class, they have large parts of the population sewn up! Failing a cultural renaissance of GB as a whole, I would like the Isle of Wight, where I plan to retire, to be made an English Reservation, just like the Red Indians have reservations, for English people only - something like Midsomer Murders without the Murders!

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Do you mean what the Germans called "Nationalsozialistische Deutsche Arbeiterpartei" , or National Socialist German Workers' Party in English - Nazi party for short? :lol:

I might well vote for a proper socialist democratic party if there was one, but it would be internationalist rather than nationalist.

I think we're coming around to seeing the benefits of a planned economy, since we've had the opposite for several decades and it's all falling apart around our ears. I don't mean totalitarianism, but state ownership of businesses is no more remote from the man in the street than having those businesses owned by huge unaccountable global corporations.

When I worked for the still nationalised British Airways back in the late 70's it was a great place to work and no worse to use as a customer than privately owned Pan Am or TWA.

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Not too sure about nationalisation.

The old GPO telephones were awful.

The local phone box was always unuseable because they had not emptied the money out. It was very difficult to get a phone line installed, they seemed to think they were doing you a huge favour and you should wait and wait and then be eternally grateful when you finally got one.

Just after they became public, I went into their shop in Swansea and asked to buy a candlestick phone. The very idea of selling a phone appeared to offend the lady. She then checked my records and said that I couldn't have one as I had hard wired connections.I told her that I had plug in sockets and she wanted to send an engineer to check them at a cost of £25. I told her that they were working just fine and I would not allow an engineer into my house.I told her that if she would not sell me a phone I would report her. She called her manager, who with evident distaste said that she would have to sell me the phone, but I mustn't plug it in

He also confirmed that an engineer visit would be necessary but did not know what to do about the fact that I refused to allow entry to my house.

There were dire warnings that if anything went wrong with the phones inside my house, I would have to pay for their repair. I informed him that a phone line is incredibly simple, you could buy wire and sockets in the market, and as I had fitted the plug in sockets, I could also repair them.

Mercury etc soon sorted the phone boxes out. The ex-GPO engineer never came. Still got the candlestick phone.

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