Executive Sadman Posted December 4, 2010 Report Share Posted December 4, 2010 Ive noticed a massive upswing in the desire for big government since the Coalition has come to power (im sure its always been there, just now is more vocal) but also disillusion with the globalisation programme, single currency, EU, multicultural experiment and continued immigration surpessing wages and providing excess competition for precious jobs. It seems the only a truly nationalist socialist government can solve both these ills. Link to post Share on other sites
Fawkandles Posted December 5, 2010 Report Share Posted December 5, 2010 Not wanting new immigrants is where i draw the line. 'Solving' the current ones is something else! Generally, the furthest i would go is Pinochet-esque government, factoring out any (alleged) state murdering. Said this in a pub amongst left-leaning drinkers with halarious consequnces. I think its the 'alleged' that really gets up 'em. Link to post Share on other sites
Executive Sadman Posted December 5, 2010 Author Report Share Posted December 5, 2010 Ive only old enough to have been interested in politics in Nulab world, but apparently pre 2000 or so, the buzzword was 'integration' - the leftists really thought they could be naturalized and assimilated, regardless of their numbers and cultures. The birth of 'multiculturalism' (read, segregation behind the curtains) is an admission they were wrong. Link to post Share on other sites
Second Time Around Posted December 29, 2010 Report Share Posted December 29, 2010 Ive noticed a massive upswing in the desire for big government since the Coalition has come to power (im sure its always been there, just now is more vocal) but also disillusion with the globalisation programme, single currency, EU, multicultural experiment and continued immigration surpessing wages and providing excess competition for precious jobs. It seems the only a truly nationalist socialist government can solve both these ills. A smaller not larger state is needed. I doubt any "socialist" government would be capable of shrinking the state - most likely the opposite in fact. I have no desire for totalitarian approaches either. Link to post Share on other sites
Hyperduck Quack Quack Posted January 2, 2011 Report Share Posted January 2, 2011 It seems the only a truly nationalist socialist government can solve both these ills. Do you mean what the Germans called "Nationalsozialistische Deutsche Arbeiterpartei" , or National Socialist German Workers' Party in English - Nazi party for short? I might well vote for a proper socialist democratic party if there was one, but it would be internationalist rather than nationalist. I think we're coming around to seeing the benefits of a planned economy, since we've had the opposite for several decades and it's all falling apart around our ears. I don't mean totalitarianism, but state ownership of businesses is no more remote from the man in the street than having those businesses owned by huge unaccountable global corporations. Link to post Share on other sites
happy_renting Posted January 6, 2011 Report Share Posted January 6, 2011 Racism. National Socialism and totalitarianism have no place in any civilised society. Link to post Share on other sites
Byron Posted January 7, 2011 Report Share Posted January 7, 2011 Racism. National Socialism and totalitarianism have no place in any civilised society. Well, as we haven't got a civilised society, what do you suggest? Link to post Share on other sites
Byron Posted January 7, 2011 Report Share Posted January 7, 2011 Racism. National Socialism and totalitarianism have no place in any civilised society. Well, as we haven't got a civilised society, what do you suggest? Link to post Share on other sites
Big Orange Posted January 14, 2011 Report Share Posted January 14, 2011 I have a bad feeling that parts of Britain will resemble this eastern German town in the next decade, with the EDL gouging on the huge pool of longterm unemployed and pissed off young white blokes. Link to post Share on other sites
BobBobson Posted January 31, 2011 Report Share Posted January 31, 2011 It seems the only a truly nationalist socialist government can solve both these ills. Not saying that Hitler was a nice bloke or a Nazi controlled 'Greater Germania' would have been a blast to live under.... .....but at least he would have eliminated the Freemasonic Zionist financial elites who are succesfully bankrupting the world into slavery whilst transferring all the wealth into (their) own corporate hands. Besides that, he was an animal lover, loved nature and the outdoors, and a vegetarian to boot! I VOTED YES! Link to post Share on other sites
Blue Warwick Posted February 28, 2011 Report Share Posted February 28, 2011 Not saying that Hitler was a nice bloke or a Nazi controlled 'Greater Germania' would have been a blast to live under.... .....but at least he would have eliminated the Freemasonic Zionist financial elites who are succesfully bankrupting the world into slavery whilst transferring all the wealth into (their) own corporate hands. Besides that, he was an animal lover, loved nature and the outdoors, and a vegetarian to boot! I VOTED YES! He painted too and loved his mum. Link to post Share on other sites
Blue Warwick Posted February 28, 2011 Report Share Posted February 28, 2011 Not saying that Hitler was a nice bloke or a Nazi controlled 'Greater Germania' would have been a blast to live under.... .....but at least he would have eliminated the Freemasonic Zionist financial elites who are succesfully bankrupting the world into slavery whilst transferring all the wealth into (their) own corporate hands. Besides that, he was an animal lover, loved nature and the outdoors, and a vegetarian to boot! I VOTED YES! Oh and he wanted to rule the world. Link to post Share on other sites
Self Employed Youth Posted March 4, 2011 Report Share Posted March 4, 2011 Nazi/Glazi Nationalize all utilities and transport. Large socialist movements required. Link to post Share on other sites
Second Time Around Posted March 5, 2011 Report Share Posted March 5, 2011 Oh and he wanted to rule the world. But sadly he didn't share Harry Secombe's aspirations: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kfs1HGk8DEs But it was nice that he loved his mum. Link to post Share on other sites
Charlie The Tramp Returns Posted March 6, 2011 Report Share Posted March 6, 2011 Would you vote for a Nationalist Socialist Party I would vote for any Nationalist Party but never the BNP. Link to post Share on other sites
kenzdawg Posted March 6, 2011 Report Share Posted March 6, 2011 Do you mean what the Germans called "Nationalsozialistische Deutsche Arbeiterpartei" , or National Socialist German Workers' Party in English - Nazi party for short? I might well vote for a proper socialist democratic party if there was one, but it would be internationalist rather than nationalist. I think we're coming around to seeing the benefits of a planned economy, since we've had the opposite for several decades and it's all falling apart around our ears. I don't mean totalitarianism, but state ownership of businesses is no more remote from the man in the street than having those businesses owned by huge unaccountable global corporations. I'm afraid you might be right, but I'd put it another way - we're in for a protracted period of rediscovering the inadequacy of a planned economy. Apparently we're forgetting that monetarism, the DSGE model and trickle down came about because post-war Keynesian planning in all its forms was an unmitigated disaster. And that includes the planned economies of corporatist/fascist countries like Spain, Portugal, Argentina and pre-Friedman Chile. In fact Chile is an interesting case in point. Friedman got a lot of stick for doing the tango with Pinochet, but he said to the general that open markets would be the undoing of the military government as indeed the 'Chilean miracle' proved to be. Link to post Share on other sites
Lincolnshire123 Posted March 17, 2011 Report Share Posted March 17, 2011 personally, I would love a party to come to power that would hang all previous politicians who had either supported our membership of the EU or immigration/multiculturalism, and also those who piled taxes on us so that local government supremos could get six-figure salaries. So I voted yes. there's no point in hoping for change and then recoiling from a party that had the balls to effect change - but the reality is the Establishment is so firmly in charge, they would never allow a challenge to their rule to take off. With public-sector workers, benefits scroungers, immigrants and the self-righteous among the indigenous population, as well as any clod who supports rubbish sorting into 10 bins, firmly in support of the political class, they have large parts of the population sewn up! Failing a cultural renaissance of GB as a whole, I would like the Isle of Wight, where I plan to retire, to be made an English Reservation, just like the Red Indians have reservations, for English people only - something like Midsomer Murders without the Murders! Link to post Share on other sites
Nickolarge Posted March 27, 2011 Report Share Posted March 27, 2011 Do you mean what the Germans called "Nationalsozialistische Deutsche Arbeiterpartei" , or National Socialist German Workers' Party in English - Nazi party for short? I might well vote for a proper socialist democratic party if there was one, but it would be internationalist rather than nationalist. I think we're coming around to seeing the benefits of a planned economy, since we've had the opposite for several decades and it's all falling apart around our ears. I don't mean totalitarianism, but state ownership of businesses is no more remote from the man in the street than having those businesses owned by huge unaccountable global corporations. When I worked for the still nationalised British Airways back in the late 70's it was a great place to work and no worse to use as a customer than privately owned Pan Am or TWA. Link to post Share on other sites
Byron Posted March 27, 2011 Report Share Posted March 27, 2011 Not too sure about nationalisation. The old GPO telephones were awful. The local phone box was always unuseable because they had not emptied the money out. It was very difficult to get a phone line installed, they seemed to think they were doing you a huge favour and you should wait and wait and then be eternally grateful when you finally got one. Just after they became public, I went into their shop in Swansea and asked to buy a candlestick phone. The very idea of selling a phone appeared to offend the lady. She then checked my records and said that I couldn't have one as I had hard wired connections.I told her that I had plug in sockets and she wanted to send an engineer to check them at a cost of £25. I told her that they were working just fine and I would not allow an engineer into my house.I told her that if she would not sell me a phone I would report her. She called her manager, who with evident distaste said that she would have to sell me the phone, but I mustn't plug it in He also confirmed that an engineer visit would be necessary but did not know what to do about the fact that I refused to allow entry to my house. There were dire warnings that if anything went wrong with the phones inside my house, I would have to pay for their repair. I informed him that a phone line is incredibly simple, you could buy wire and sockets in the market, and as I had fitted the plug in sockets, I could also repair them. Mercury etc soon sorted the phone boxes out. The ex-GPO engineer never came. Still got the candlestick phone. Link to post Share on other sites
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