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Hip And Knee Ops Face Axe To Help Save £6M - Nhs Sheffield

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http://www.thestar.co.uk/news/Hip-and-knee-ops-face.6649904.jp

PATIENTS due to have non-urgent operations including hip and knee replacements in Sheffield could see procedures cancelled as the health trust in charge looks to save another £6 million this financial year.

NHS Sheffield, the primary care trust which is responsible for funding the city's healthcare, has already made cuts of £21m this year but health chiefs say additional pressures mean more money must be saved to balance the books.

Medics and managers have now put together a further savings plan which would see some treatments deferred this financial year - which runs until April. The proposals, to be discussed at a board meeting of the PCT on Tuesday, cover non-urgent orthopaedic, dermatology and orthodontic surgery which would have taken place at the Northern General Hospital, Royal Hallamshire Hospital and the Charles Clifford Dental Hospital - all part of the Sheffield Teaching Hospitals NHS Foundation Trust.

Other areas which could be affected - and are currently under discussion with doctors - include non-urgent diabetes, rheumatology and oral treatment. A review of some non-urgent specialist procedures is also taking place.

The hospitals trust says patients affected by the moves would then be invited to discuss their options with their GP.

But but NHS spending is safe, their won't be front line cuts, the govt promised.

Trouble is the are looking to save money and hope nothing serious happens, ie if we have a severe cold spell maybe we get more serious road accidents and the additional treatment costs wipe out the £6m in savings. Damn the unexpected can severely impact those diagonal extrapolation graphs.

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The OP is guilty of Labour-esque spinning here imho. PCTs and NHS trusts can cut what they like, the government has protected the BUDGET. What they spend it on is up to them.

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The OP is guilty of Labour-esque spinning here imho. PCTs and NHS trusts can cut what they like, the government has protected the BUDGET. What they spend it on is up to them.

Art consultants?

http://www.thisisbristol.co.uk/news/163-600-000-spent-art-Bristol-hospitals-years/article-2463420-detail/article.html

ALMOST £600,000 was spent on art to enhance Bristol hospitals in a two-year-period.

Health trusts in the area also paid almost £80,000 on arts consultants to advise them about the way they use art in hospitals during 2008-09 and 2009-10, according to figures obtained by the Evening Post.

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Art consultants?

I don't know about this case, but hospitals have fundraisers that seek money from local business for this sort of thing. Now you could argue that even so that money should go on operations but it's perhaps no quite as simple as hospitals wasting cash.

I'm all for more attractive NHS hospitals. The complimentary therapy place up the road is lovely inside - no wonder people rate experiences of alternative therapies above mainstream ones if the place is clean and the staff attentive and caring, regardless of whether the treatments have merit or not.

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I just can't see the point of giving all these people new hips and knees, it's like putting four brand new tyres on a car to tow it down the scrapyard.

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I just can't see the point of giving all these people new hips and knees, it's like putting four brand new tyres on a car to tow it down the scrapyard.

See how your tune will change when you get osteoarthritis in your knees and hips one day and can't get it on the NHS.

I wonder what is going to happen to Sheffield orthopoedic surgeons and anaesthetists who are doing all these operations and without them will have a fraction of the work that they are doing now.

Where all people with crumbly joints going to go to have their joints replaced? Wouldn't surprise me if GPs start referring to other trusts instead who then charge Sheffield for the work done.

So much for increasing NHS spending above inflation. If that was genuinely happening then surely the NHS should be offering more services instead of cutting back?

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The OP is guilty of Labour-esque spinning here imho. PCTs and NHS trusts can cut what they like, the government has protected the BUDGET. What they spend it on is up to them.

Yep clearly spinning, I love Liebour.

If anyone is spinning it's probably the highly paid Liebour managers within the PCT who are looking to cover up their own ineffectual budget management by putting out the above story.

It's also highlighting policy failure, the govt clearly cannot protect front line services if it has no control over how the budgets are spent. Question is have the opposition got their own people in running the PCT's meaning they can do maximum damage in PR terms over how budgets get spent?

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So much for increasing NHS spending above inflation. If that was genuinely happening then surely the NHS should be offering more services instead of cutting back?

Well, the last government increased NHS spending above inflation. Yet, in 13 years, the total number of front-line staff (corrected for whole time equivalence) increased by only 2%.

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See how your tune will change when you get osteoarthritis in your knees and hips one day and can't get it on the NHS.

By the time that happens to me there wont BE an NHS.

I'm just paying for someone else to have something I'll never be able to afford.

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If you become imobile how can you be available for work?

Total madness.

Why do people allow their local NHS to dictate who will get what? It is our NHS. If you are unhappy get on the board and raise merry hell.

I got fed up with being told what our local district authority would and wouldn't do I got elected and campaign.

Everyone in the UK is so quick to whinge. Get out there and do something positive.....please

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Well, the last government increased NHS spending above inflation. Yet, in 13 years, the total number of front-line staff (corrected for whole time equivalence) increased by only 2%.

Frontline staff is ample (I work in the NHS) - well most of the time.

New drugs eat up a lot of the budget. Many new drugs cost 10 - 30grand per year (i.e. the cost of 1 - 2 frontline staff). New technologies do.

Hospital consultant numbers underwent massive expansion over the last 10 years. Unfortunately I have missed the boat on that one and will be leaving my training programme in 1.5 years when there will probably be no consultant expansion.

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So it goes and will continue unless there is a very big wake up. The good citizen is daily exhorted to be interested in trivia (world cup bid/ snow) repelled at any kind of direct action (poll tax riot, G20 or even chucking a fire extinguisher off a roof) and tumescent with patriotism at the noble chinless leeches spending our cash on their obscene lifestyles and irrelevant marriages. So it will continue too. A more apathetic generation has never lived and the only time most will wake up is when they've sold their house to pay for their privatised utilities or to lay in their own sh1t in a privately run "nursing" deathcamp.

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By the time that happens to me there wont BE an NHS.

I'm just paying for someone else to have something I'll never be able to afford.

Where did the NHS come from Ruffles? Do you think it was just an act of largesse by some enlightened rich people? Maybe the country was replete with spare cash after WW2? Or maybe Beveridge was better for the elite than the alternative, a generation relatively politically enlightened, organised through their experience of war work or soldiering and able to kick BTM taking over the kitchen, not just taking a bigger slice of cake.

The view you express is exactly the view that you are expected to take.

Now, what about the World Cup bid, we was robbed weren't we? We got the Olympics though....and that Cherly Cole..

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So it goes and will continue unless there is a very big wake up. The good citizen is daily exhorted to be interested in trivia (world cup bid/ snow) repelled at any kind of direct action (poll tax riot, G20 or even chucking a fire extinguisher off a roof) and tumescent with patriotism at the noble chinless leeches spending our cash on their obscene lifestyles and irrelevant marriages. So it will continue too. A more apathetic generation has never lived and the only time most will wake up is when they've sold their house to pay for their privatised utilities or to lay in their own sh1t in a privately run "nursing" deathcamp.

Excellent post.

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But but NHS spending is safe, their won't be front line cuts, the govt promised.

Trouble is the are looking to save money and hope nothing serious happens, ie if we have a severe cold spell maybe we get more serious road accidents and the additional treatment costs wipe out the £6m in savings. Damn the unexpected can severely impact those diagonal extrapolation graphs.

1000 cuts like this will barely cover the Irish bailout of UK banks.

Must cut more.

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£6M is only a handful of top managers.

Not this old canard.

We've had this discussion: there are far fewer managers in the NHS as a % of either headcount or budget than in almost any other organisation, private or public.

Lazy, lazy, lazy.

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I just can't see the point of giving all these people new hips and knees, it's like putting four brand new tyres on a car to tow it down the scrapyard.

Trolling or ignorance? You decide.

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Not this old canard.

We've had this discussion: there are far fewer managers in the NHS as a % of either headcount or budget than in almost any other organisation, private or public.

Lazy, lazy, lazy.

Not what my wife, a nurse says, and not what any of her colleagues say either.

Perhaps you could expand on your personal experience of NHS staffing levels?

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Not what my wife, a nurse says, and not what any of her colleagues say either.

Perhaps you could expand on your personal experience of NHS staffing levels?

Secondment to the NHS commercial directorate of any use to you?

How about some doing some basic internet research (look at the previous threads on this).

Tell you what, let's develop a clear and unbiased view by asking a single person with an natural antipathy for managers what their thoughts are instead.

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Secondment to the NHS commercial directorate of any use to you?

How about some doing some basic internet research (look at the previous threads on this).

You do the internet research, I will continue to get my information from real people.

Your thesis is that there has not been a disproportionate rise in NHS management staffing levels. Well, you would say that, wouldn't you?

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You do the internet research, I will continue to get my information from real people.

Your thesis is that there has not been a disproportionate rise in NHS management staffing levels. Well, you would say that, wouldn't you?

What, as a medic you mean?

Next.

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What, as a medic you mean?

Next.

Apologies, I was under the impression that you were seconded to the commercial directorate, rather than actually practicing medecine. Perhaps it was something you said.

The CD functions as the central point in securing best value as well as achieving greater levels of effectiveness for the Department of Health (DH) and the NHS through the use of best commercial practices and better commercial relationships. This involves:

* ensuring commercial and procurement excellence across the DH and NHS;

* promoting the adoption of best commercial practices where and when they significantly improve the effectiveness and efficiency of the NHS;

* facilitating the adoption and integration of commercial innovations to improve quality of care and exploit commercial opportunities resulting from innovations within the NHS;

* developing and managing links with the independent sector; and,

* providing sound commercial input to assist Departmental strategic reviews and policy decisions.

The directorate is responsible for a number of programmes and provides commercial advice to other DH programmes. These include:

* independent sector (IS) procurement - expanding the clinical capacity of the NHS, and facilitating choice, through the strategic use of the independent healthcare sector;

* Supply Chain Excellence Programme - a rigorous approach to generating savings for the NHS by better procurement and delivery of the £14 billion it spends annually on goods and services;

* arm's length bodies (ALBs) - providing commercial expertise and business analysis as part of the overall review of ALBs;

* Care Services Efficiency Delivery Programme - working with local authorities to identify efficiencies in the delivery of adult social care to improve the service and release savings; and,

* senior Departmental sponsor for NHS Purchasing and Supply Agency and NHS Logistics Authority.

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