A.steve Posted December 3, 2010 Report Share Posted December 3, 2010 Hrafnsson, speaking at an event in London, confirmed that the website had information about the operations of a U.S. bank, but declined to identify it. http://uk.reuters.com/article/idUKTRE6B11XC20101202 I'm not sure what to make of this. Right now, Wikileaks is centre stage with its massive leak of politically sensitive materials. If they're now about to blow the lid on a US bank, I imagine this is even more likely to be a politically dangerous move... yet they announce, ahead of time, what they plan to do... at a time when embarrassed politicians are unlikely to offer support. Is this a big bluff? Is the big political splurge a cleverly selected bunch of materials that we should expect to give context to the next leak? What is the purpose of announcing that there will be a leak? Is this a bluff move? Do this crowd know what they're doing - or are we witnessing a shambles? Link to post Share on other sites
Confounded Posted December 3, 2010 Report Share Posted December 3, 2010 http://uk.reuters.com/article/idUKTRE6B11XC20101202 I'm not sure what to make of this. Right now, Wikileaks is centre stage with its massive leak of politically sensitive materials. If they're now about to blow the lid on a US bank, I imagine this is even more likely to be a politically dangerous move... yet they announce, ahead of time, what they plan to do... at a time when embarrassed politicians are unlikely to offer support. Is this a big bluff? Is the big political splurge a cleverly selected bunch of materials that we should expect to give context to the next leak? What is the purpose of announcing that there will be a leak? Is this a bluff move? Do this crowd know what they're doing - or are we witnessing a shambles? What can they leak on a bank that is not already known? Link to post Share on other sites
Captain Cavey Posted December 3, 2010 Report Share Posted December 3, 2010 What can they leak on a bank that is not already known? That they are honest, open and altruistic to their fellow citizens? Link to post Share on other sites
Bloo Loo Posted December 3, 2010 Report Share Posted December 3, 2010 What can they leak on a bank that is not already known? clearly its not about a bank like RBS, whose CEO was whiter than snow white in a blizzard. Link to post Share on other sites
Wahoo Posted December 3, 2010 Report Share Posted December 3, 2010 He's dead meat. Link to post Share on other sites
A.steve Posted December 3, 2010 Author Report Share Posted December 3, 2010 What can they leak on a bank that is not already known? Thar's what made the news particularly interesting. If this next leak is even in the same league as the diplomatic one currently making headlines, it will be real, yet plausible, news . Link to post Share on other sites
Maddog21 Posted December 3, 2010 Report Share Posted December 3, 2010 Domain name provider forces Wikileaks offline http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-11907641 The website of whistle-blowing organisation Wikileaks has been shut down by the company providing it with domain name services. EveryDNS.net said it had terminated services because Wikileaks.org had come under massive cyber attacks. I love the smell of freedom of speech in the morning Link to post Share on other sites
Guest_FaFa!_* Posted December 3, 2010 Report Share Posted December 3, 2010 Domain name provider forces Wikileaks offline Not for long: http://213.251.145.96/ Link to post Share on other sites
Cinzano Bianco Posted December 3, 2010 Report Share Posted December 3, 2010 Not for long: http://213.251.145.96/ It appears wikileaks is currently FUBAR. Link to post Share on other sites
Guinness Posted December 3, 2010 Report Share Posted December 3, 2010 It appears wikileaks is currently FUBAR. Its been banjo'ed. The gestapo are alive and well in the US of A Link to post Share on other sites
Wahoo Posted December 3, 2010 Report Share Posted December 3, 2010 Its been banjo'ed. The gestapo are alive and well in the US of A They're trying real hard to shut it down... Wikigone We love free speech, we love Democracy.........Blah Blah Blah Bullshiite I have just emailed Amazon, informing them that I will never buy from them again. Link to post Share on other sites
blankster Posted December 3, 2010 Report Share Posted December 3, 2010 Wikilleaks is now reported as being permanently closed down by its domain host. Wikileaks and it's closure probably marks a turning point in the history of the internet, as it will become an increasingly regulated and controlled environment. One question that needs to be asked is whether Wikileaks did more harm than good. For instance a lot of Americans on the internet say that British troops haven't pulled their weight in Afghanistan (and also Iraq). Now it's confirmed that US officials actually said this and so did the President of Afghanistan, according to Wikileaks. Even I, as a leftie, have misgivings about a site like Wikileaks, because a minor thing said in private by a drunken official could start a war. Link to post Share on other sites
Wahoo Posted December 3, 2010 Report Share Posted December 3, 2010 If the alternative to the truth is rumour and manipulation of facts....... I'll go for wikileaks any day. It''s a no-brainer. Link to post Share on other sites
yellerkat Posted December 3, 2010 Report Share Posted December 3, 2010 wikileaks.ch - 213.251.145.96 - BUT: The server at 213.251.145.96 is taking too long to respond. Link to post Share on other sites
EUBanana Posted December 3, 2010 Report Share Posted December 3, 2010 Apparently they were designated a terrorist organisation by the British government last week. So I was just told, anyway. Ignorance is Strength Link to post Share on other sites
Wahoo Posted December 3, 2010 Report Share Posted December 3, 2010 I guess this will, actually, increase the interest in Wikileaks. They have registered Wikileaks.ch - outside USA control. It'll be interesting to see if the Yanks have influence there. Yanks 15 - Wiki 0 Link to post Share on other sites
Democorruptcy Posted December 3, 2010 Report Share Posted December 3, 2010 The founder of WikiLeaks, Julian Assange, will be live online from 1pm today to answer readers' questions http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/blog/2010/dec/03/wikileaks-julian-assange-online Link to post Share on other sites
blankster Posted December 3, 2010 Report Share Posted December 3, 2010 How verifiable is all this stuff that appeared on Wikileaks? I'm sure some was genuine, but can we be sure it all was? A few years ago predicted the Iraq conflict could lead to war between Saudi Arabia and Iran. After revelations about what the King of Saudi said, it looks like I wasn't too wide of the mark, although I thought it would be the result of them backing opposing sides in a Shia / Sunni civil war in Iraq. Link to post Share on other sites
bearORbullENIGMA Posted December 3, 2010 Report Share Posted December 3, 2010 Julian Assange is supposed to be online right this moment taking questions on the Guardian website: http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/blog/2010/dec/03/wikileaks-julian-assange-online?showallcomments=true#end-of-comments Subject to internet connection of course. Link to post Share on other sites
bearORbullENIGMA Posted December 3, 2010 Report Share Posted December 3, 2010 Julian Assange is supposed to be online right this moment taking questions on the Guardian website: http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/blog/2010/dec/03/wikileaks-julian-assange-online?showallcomments=true#end-of-comments Subject to internet connection of course. "Update: we are currently experiencing technical difficulties on guardian.co.uk" Link to post Share on other sites
General Melchett Posted December 3, 2010 Report Share Posted December 3, 2010 Can't be having the serfs getting uppity: http://www.thedailymash.co.uk/news/war/just-because-we're-crushing-wikileaks%2c-it-doesn't-mean-you're-next%2c-say-governments-201012033317/ Link to post Share on other sites
bearORbullENIGMA Posted December 3, 2010 Report Share Posted December 3, 2010 Julian Assange is supposed to be online right this moment taking questions on the Guardian website: http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/blog/2010/dec/03/wikileaks-julian-assange-online?showallcomments=true#end-of-comments Subject to internet connection of course. Assange is now online. He has replied to Arshavinslittlelegs question: "Is there anything we can do to help??" His answer: "Yes." Link to post Share on other sites
bearORbullENIGMA Posted December 3, 2010 Report Share Posted December 3, 2010 Julian Assange is supposed to be online right this moment taking questions on the Guardian website: http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/blog/2010/dec/03/wikileaks-julian-assange-online?showallcomments=true#end-of-comments Subject to internet connection of course. "Update: Thank you for all your questions. We are temporarily closing comments and will post Julian Assange's answers as soon as we can." Link to post Share on other sites
bearORbullENIGMA Posted December 3, 2010 Report Share Posted December 3, 2010 "Update: Thank you for all your questions. We are temporarily closing comments and will post Julian Assange's answers as soon as we can." Read Julian Assange's answers here. Still being updated as he trawls through the questions & answer them. Link to post Share on other sites
tinker Posted December 3, 2010 Report Share Posted December 3, 2010 Can't be having the serfs getting uppity: http://www.thedailymash.co.uk/news/war/just-because-we're-crushing-wikileaks%2c-it-doesn't-mean-you're-next%2c-say-governments-201012033317/ I was just going to post that link General. The Daily Mash on the money again. JUST BECAUSE WE'RE CRUSHING WIKILEAKS, IT DOESN'T MEAN YOU'RE NEXT, SAY GOVERNMENTS 03-12-10 GOVERNMENTS around the world today stressed that just because they are trying to crush Wikileaks to death, it does not necessarily mean that you will be next. Important officials in fancy offices in grand capital cities said the only reason they are erasing the whistleblowing site from existence and trying to arrest its spokesman on some trumped-up rape charge was because it had done some things they didn't particularly like. One government spokesman said: "We know that you wouldn't do that. Sure, you might get upset about budget cuts, but that's all part of the everyday rough and tumble. It's not like you are engaged in a relentless campaign to expose us as liars, cheats and murderers. "No, as far as you're concerned everything is going to be just fine. As long as you just keep watching television. "Of course at some point we may have to step in and decide exactly which television programmes you're allowed to watch, but again, it's really nothing for you to get all worked up about. "Especially with your diabetes and your high blood pressure." He added: "No, you'll be just fine with it, and of course if you weren't, then we would just switch you off as easily as pressing the stand-by button on your remote control. But that's obviously not going to happen to you. For goodness sake, why on earth would it? "So we're agreed then - everything's cool and that man that we're beating to death in the corner of the room is just some smart-alec with a horrible website - probably with photos of children on it - that could very easily have killed you. Good. "Anyway, I think that's the second half of Loose Women coming on, so I'll let you get back to it. "Sorry to have bothered you. All rather chilling. Link to post Share on other sites
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