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My wife's just got back from the US and whilst she was over there she had to take the kids to A&E on a Sunday as they had ear infections. They spent less than an hour there and were prescribed antibiotics. The bills have now turned up. nearly £2,000 in total?!

The missus did have insurance, but there's plenty of small print that's enough to slightly worry me.

But £2k for less than an hour's consultation. This would pay for the most expensive physician on Harley Street. Is this normal? Seems completely punitive to me

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My wife's just got back from the US and whilst she was over there she had to take the kids to A&E on a Sunday as they had ear infections. They spent less than an hour there and were prescribed antibiotics. The bills have now turned up. nearly £2,000 in total?!

The missus did have insurance, but there's plenty of small print that's enough to slightly worry me.

But £2k for less than an hour's consultation. This would pay for the most expensive physician on Harley Street. Is this normal? Seems completely punitive to me

Land of the free and home of the brave, don't ya know?! :rolleyes:

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Yes, it is normal and you are lucky to get away with such a small bill.

In the US they like to bill you by having loads of nurses and docs check you out. It is common for people in the US to become bankrupt and lose their homes when a child becomes ill.

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Yes, it is normal and you are lucky to get away with such a small bill.

In the US they like to bill you by having loads of nurses and docs check you out. It is common for people in the US to become bankrupt and lose their homes when a child becomes ill.

Im surprised it isnt common just to give them some antibiotics yourself. I bet she wont take them to A&E for something so minor again (especially if she has to pay rather than insurance)

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My wife's just got back from the US and whilst she was over there she had to take the kids to A&E on a Sunday as they had ear infections. They spent less than an hour there and were prescribed antibiotics. The bills have now turned up. nearly £2,000 in total?!

The missus did have insurance, but there's plenty of small print that's enough to slightly worry me.

But £2k for less than an hour's consultation. This would pay for the most expensive physician on Harley Street. Is this normal? Seems completely punitive to me

I know of a small business - 30 employees - that got into trouble with its loan from RBS. Still doing well, but borrowed too much. RBS sent in the accountants for a weekend audit. Bill for that single audit? £25k. Some people take the piss, because they can.

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So the UK isn't so bad.

In May, I had

initial consultation with surgeon,

pre admission check with nurse,

One night in hospital,

Operation with general anaesthetic, surgeon, anaesthetist, nursing, drugs, food etc.

Final check up 6 weeks later.

Cost £1879

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So the UK isn't so bad.

In May, I had

initial consultation with surgeon,

pre admission check with nurse,

One night in hospital,

Operation with general anaesthetic, surgeon, anaesthetist, nursing, drugs, food etc.

Final check up 6 weeks later.

Cost £1879

Private ?

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The missus did have insurance, but there's plenty of small print that's enough to slightly worry me.

What sort of cover did she take out? Was it the minimum or something decent?

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So the UK isn't so bad.

In May, I had

initial consultation with surgeon,

pre admission check with nurse,

One night in hospital,

Operation with general anaesthetic, surgeon, anaesthetist, nursing, drugs, food etc.

Final check up 6 weeks later.

Cost £1879

Indeed, luckily im as fit as a fiddle but my dad had to be screened for something, Quack said the sooner its looked at the better, if it is something bad. Waiting list is 6 months, but pay me £400 and i can find someone to do it next week. (ironically a private company using NHS equipment and facilities)

NHS is a f*cking disgrace. At least with the US system you know theyre out to fleece you. Here its a load of Champagne socialists saying their in it for moral reasons whilst emptying your wallet while your asleep.

I dont blame the yanks for telling Obama where to shove his healthcare and death panels plan.

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My wife's just got back from the US and whilst she was over there she had to take the kids to A&E on a Sunday as they had ear infections. They spent less than an hour there and were prescribed antibiotics. The bills have now turned up. nearly £2,000 in total?!

The missus did have insurance, but there's plenty of small print that's enough to slightly worry me.

But £2k for less than an hour's consultation. This would pay for the most expensive physician on Harley Street. Is this normal? Seems completely punitive to me

That's about right if you're paying yourself and claiming off foreign insurance. US insurance companies all have deals with health care providers whereby the pay a lot less (usually around 50%) than the full undiscounted rate. I had the misfortune to spend the night in a New York hospital once after an emergency admission - all on a good quality medical insurance scheme provided by the firm I was working for there - and the total bill was around 8000 USD.

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Private ?

Yes, totally private, after seeing my NHS doctor I telephoned a private hospital for an appointment, got one within a week and was operated on 4 weeks later. Whilst in there, I met a number of people with painful but not life threatening complaints who had given up waiting for the NHS. All of us thought that it would be hugely expensive, but it was not.

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My wife's just got back from the US and whilst she was over there she had to take the kids to A&E on a Sunday as they had ear infections. They spent less than an hour there and were prescribed antibiotics. The bills have now turned up. nearly £2,000 in total?!

The missus did have insurance, but there's plenty of small print that's enough to slightly worry me.

But £2k for less than an hour's consultation. This would pay for the most expensive physician on Harley Street. Is this normal? Seems completely punitive to me

Without relaying again my recent experience with the NHS I would say you got a bargain. It sounds like at least they managed to diagnose and correctly treat for your money. In contrast the NHS just robs you blind for nothing in return <_<

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Indeed, luckily im as fit as a fiddle but my dad had to be screened for something, Quack said the sooner its looked at the better, if it is something bad. Waiting list is 6 months, but pay me £400 and i can find someone to do it next week. (ironically a private company using NHS equipment and facilities)

NHS is a f*cking disgrace. At least with the US system you know theyre out to fleece you. Here its a load of Champagne socialists saying their in it for moral reasons whilst emptying your wallet while your asleep.

I dont blame the yanks for telling Obama where to shove his healthcare and death panels plan.

Have to agree Im afraid. :angry:

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Without relaying again my recent experience with the NHS I would say you got a bargain. It sounds like at least they managed to diagnose and correctly treat for your money. In contrast the NHS just robs you blind for nothing in return <_<

Nothing?

No, it's worse than nothing. It's a tantalising hope, and if time is of the essence then it's a great waste of time banging your head against a wall of crap before you give up expecting anything and go [private|without].

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Nothing?

No, it's worse than nothing. It's a tantalising hope, and if time is of the essence then it's a great waste of time banging your head against a wall of crap before you give up expecting anything and go [private|without].

see my experience relayed in the Vit D thread.

I am taking advice on whether its worth taking legal action for clinical negligence. Even if its not I will be kicking up merry hell with my MP - who happens to be Lansley.

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Nothing?

No, it's worse than nothing. It's a tantalising hope, and if time is of the essence then it's a great waste of time banging your head against a wall of crap before you give up expecting anything and go [private|without].

Perhaps we are just in a very good area, but my wife went from initial consultation due to pain, via MRIs and an exploratory operation, to the actual operation and recovery in about 8 weeks earlier this year. Generally the doctors and nurses were polite and explained everything well, the wards were clean to my eye at least, and the only downside was the woman in the bed next to her wanted to talk all the time about inanities, whilst my wife was recovering from being split stem to stern and just wanted to sleep. So for the most part a good experience. She appears to have recovered fully - no symptoms etc. And no, it wasn't cancer or anything else on some special speedy target.

So whilst the NHS can doubtless be very crap - when it works it can be very good indeed.

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Have to say that when it is a real emergency the NHS has been superb in my experience. Twice my wife was rushed into hospital, once with the top of her thumb crushed into 7 pieces and hanging off. Within 4 hours she had been operated on and was discharged 3 hours later.

Secondly, she had a heart attack in the car. I got her to hospital, no pulse, no breathing. They threw eveything at her for 4 days and really tried their best, sadly it was too late, but she would never have had such good treatment in a private hospital.

On the other hand, my son in law recently had a wisdom tooth extracted in the NHS day surgery. They sent him home with paracetamol and a telephone number to call if he had any problems.Later he was in absolute agony, he called them to have some pillock tell him that it was normal. This is absolutely disgraceful in this day and age when pretty well all kinds of pain can be relieved.

As he has another to be removed, I enquired at a private hospital. They agreed that severe post operation pain should be treated in hospital with strong pain killers and when I told them about the case, replied that that was why we have private medicine.

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Have to say that when it is a real emergency the NHS has been superb in my experience. Twice my wife was rushed into hospital, once with the top of her thumb crushed into 7 pieces and hanging off. Within 4 hours she had been operated on and was discharged 3 hours later.

Secondly, she had a heart attack in the car. I got her to hospital, no pulse, no breathing. They threw eveything at her for 4 days and really tried their best, sadly it was too late, but she would never have had such good treatment in a private hospital.

On the other hand, my son in law recently had a wisdom tooth extracted in the NHS day surgery. They sent him home with paracetamol and a telephone number to call if he had any problems.Later he was in absolute agony, he called them to have some pillock tell him that it was normal. This is absolutely disgraceful in this day and age when pretty well all kinds of pain can be relieved.

As he has another to be removed, I enquired at a private hospital. They agreed that severe post operation pain should be treated in hospital with strong pain killers and when I told them about the case, replied that that was why we have private medicine.

My (NHS) dentist gave me pethadine when he pulled all four of my wisdom teeth a few years ago. I can kind of see why they would want to keep you in on that stuff, as I basically have no memory of the week that followed.

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I came home from vegas with a $3.5k A&E bill. Never paid it.

There's no reciprocal agreement between the US and UK for the enforcement of judgements in these kind of cases and it's more trouble than it's worth for the healthcare company involved to go through the neccessary due process required to try to get you to pay up.

If you look at the stats only 30% of delinquent US healthcare fees are recovered from Europe, and I daresay that's the 30% that shit themselves when they start getting letters from debt collection agencies who are based in Switzerland and use fancy paper for their letters.

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Have to say that when it is a real emergency the NHS has been superb in my experience.

Do you consider it a real emergency when over about 48 hours your eyesight goes from normal to a point where you are bumping into people on a pavement and can't read a book?

Because when that happened to me, I couldn't even get an appointment with my GP - let alone a referral to the eye hospital - for over two weeks! I didn't begrudge the private quack his fee, but I've begrudged every tax penny I've paid to our useless NHS since that experience.

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Do you consider it a real emergency when over about 48 hours your eyesight goes from normal to a point where you are bumping into people on a pavement and can't read a book?

Because when that happened to me, I couldn't even get an appointment with my GP - let alone a referral to the eye hospital - for over two weeks! I didn't begrudge the private quack his fee, but I've begrudged every tax penny I've paid to our useless NHS since that experience.

That is shocking.

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Do you consider it a real emergency when over about 48 hours your eyesight goes from normal to a point where you are bumping into people on a pavement and can't read a book?

Because when that happened to me, I couldn't even get an appointment with my GP - let alone a referral to the eye hospital - for over two weeks! I didn't begrudge the private quack his fee, but I've begrudged every tax penny I've paid to our useless NHS since that experience.

You could have gone to A&E or a drop-in centre and been seen within hours. Drop-in centres are one of the very few useful innovations of the last labour government.

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Have to say that when it is a real emergency the NHS has been superb in my experience. Twice my wife was rushed into hospital, once with the top of her thumb crushed into 7 pieces and hanging off. Within 4 hours she had been operated on and was discharged 3 hours later.

Secondly, she had a heart attack in the car. I got her to hospital, no pulse, no breathing. They threw eveything at her for 4 days and really tried their best, sadly it was too late, but she would never have had such good treatment in a private hospital.

On the other hand, my son in law recently had a wisdom tooth extracted in the NHS day surgery. They sent him home with paracetamol and a telephone number to call if he had any problems.Later he was in absolute agony, he called them to have some pillock tell him that it was normal. This is absolutely disgraceful in this day and age when pretty well all kinds of pain can be relieved.

As he has another to be removed, I enquired at a private hospital. They agreed that severe post operation pain should be treated in hospital with strong pain killers and when I told them about the case, replied that that was why we have private medicine.

My NHS dentist smashed my wisdom teeth with a little hammer to extract them, just as the anesthesia was wearing off. I have never known pain like it. Sent home without even paracetamol, but the standard prescription for antibiotics (?). Did better with regular salt water mouth washes. Two weeks later I pulled out a remaining fragment of tooth myself with the help of some tequila.

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Do you consider it a real emergency when over about 48 hours your eyesight goes from normal to a point where you are bumping into people on a pavement and can't read a book?

Because when that happened to me, I couldn't even get an appointment with my GP - let alone a referral to the eye hospital - for over two weeks! I didn't begrudge the private quack his fee, but I've begrudged every tax penny I've paid to our useless NHS since that experience.

Same thing happened to me - Porca - did you have Occular Neuritis by any chance?

See Vitamin D thread for my experience.

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