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Bbc Newsnight - Prison Isn't Too Bad At All

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I think they pay £1 wk

so they get to rent all inc of tv leccy and licence for £52 yr

and have access to all the porn channels on sky as well

eec directive on human rights I think

compare and contrast against any other non criminal

farcical situation

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I think they pay £1 wk

so they get to rent all inc of tv leccy and licence for £52 yr

A little misleading, as the prisoners get paid as little as £4 per week.

So they have to work to get TV rights.

It's a nominal wage and a nominal cost. Might as well be paying them £ 1 million a week, and charging them 1 million a week for toilet roll.

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A little misleading, as the prisoners get paid as little as £4 per week.

So they have to work to get TV rights.

It's a nominal wage and a nominal cost. Might as well be paying them £ 1 million a week, and charging them 1 million a week for toilet roll.

It's not like they're nipping down to the pub to spend their £4...

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In a prison room with TV and radios a serial criminals says prison is OK (I suppose he means no deterrent whatsoever).

Does he even have to pay TV license ?

http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/b00wh6ty/Newsnight_30_11_2010/

4 minutes ish and the rooms look like hotel rooms.

Consider how many people can those rooms be used to house..

So what do you want to do then, introduce chain gangs, breaking rocks etc?

Rightly or wrongly, it's the view of the judicial system that loss of liberty **is** the punishment. No doubt some of these crims are too stupid to get that, or have worse lives on the outside than in - but that's not the fault of the justice system.

Cheapest way to empty the prisons would be to hand out free smack, coke, dope etc to anyone who wants it. Only problem is the first country in Europe to do it would be over-run with smack-heads (not that we aren't already).

Anyway I work away from home a lot and it's no fun at all being in hotels even for a week at a stretch. It's not all a fortnight on the costa you know.

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Anyway I work away from home a lot and it's no fun at all being in hotels even for a week at a stretch. It's not all a fortnight on the costa you know.

Too true, at least back in the 90s I used to get put up in "business" hotels where there was always a fair chance of copping off with some bird in the hotel bar. These days, since the "crisis" it tends to be Campanile style gigs or Holday Inn Express and you generally get a couple of elderly couples on a lakes and mountains tour.

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So what do you want to do then, introduce chain gangs, breaking rocks etc?

Rightly or wrongly, it's the view of the judicial system that loss of liberty **is** the punishment. No doubt some of these crims are too stupid to get that, or have worse lives on the outside than in - but that's not the fault of the justice system.

Cheapest way to empty the prisons would be to hand out free smack, coke, dope etc to anyone who wants it. Only problem is the first country in Europe to do it would be over-run with smack-heads (not that we aren't already).

Anyway I work away from home a lot and it's no fun at all being in hotels even for a week at a stretch. It's not all a fortnight on the costa you know.

Looks like you hit the nail on the head, why oh why don't the politicos get it?

This issue is so easy to solve and save millions upon millions of pounds.

Firstly, stop criminalizing drug users, we don't criminalize smokers or drinkers

second: setup smack centers where registered addicts can shoot or chase for free! (this alone would reduce the prison population by 30 %)

Legalize or at the very least - do what California does to pot smokers - on the spot fine like a parking citation with no criminal record for having some green on you

I think at the moment, the police waste time and money arresting someone for this. Stop the pursuit of cultivators of Cannabis and using friggin helicopters to find someone growing 5 or 6 plants

A lot of the prison population are inside for commiting petty crime to feed a rather expensive drug habit.

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Also wanted to say, (not that i have ever been to prison) but i remember back in the 1980's when some friends were doing time, Cannabis was easily available in Prison and it helped relax the inmates - screws were happy as less grief to deal with and most prisoners went on to have normal lives after there prison experience.

When Cannabis was clamped down on and random drug testing in prison was introduced, cannabis could be detected in the blood stream for up to 4 weeks - so prisoners refrained from taking it. Smack however, is easier to smuggle in, does not stay in the blood stream long and today we have strait prisoners going in and coming out addicts

My guess is Group 4 and all those other private prison companies dont want to change the status quo - even if it costs the tax payer 40k a year to lock up each prisoner

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So what do you want to do then, introduce chain gangs, breaking rocks etc?

Yes why not? It was Labour which abolished hard labour in prisons back in the 1950s. Since we can't have them undercutting people we can have them digging and filling holes.

You should see prisons in Asia even Japan and Singapore prisons are nasty, an acquaitance of mine spent some time in a Japanese prison (it was then found the evidence against him was fabricated and he was freed on appeal). He was woken up with a savage beating daily and was underfed purposefully to cause malnutrition. At which he was forced to pile up boxes from one end of the room to another. Non compliance was met with a savage beating. After 4 weeks he went nuts and attacked the guards, he was beaten unconcious and spent months in the hole, where he was strapped to a bed and regularly beaten the guards would also crap in his food and offer savage beatings or torture the prisoners for fun, which was actually approved policy by the government.

Now you try and say UK prisons are hard.

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Firstly, stop criminalizing drug users, we don't criminalize smokers or drinkers

second: setup smack centers where registered addicts can shoot or chase for free! (this alone would reduce the prison population by 30 %)

Legalize or at the very least - do what California does to pot smokers - on the spot fine like a parking citation with no criminal record for having some green on you

When this first came about in 2005 discussions people at work were dismayed at this and said why should we give them £8200 of drugs? Its just that many only see one cost side of things rather than the whole costs. Much like people think hybrid cars and especially the Prius are environmentally friendly, when a Humvee is more environmentally friendly than a prius.

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Too true, at least back in the 90s I used to get put up in "business" hotels where there was always a fair chance of copping off with some bird in the hotel bar. These days, since the "crisis" it tends to be Campanile style gigs or Holday Inn Express and you generally get a couple of elderly couples on a lakes and mountains tour.

The boomers had women, echo boomers had milfs and now we have gilfs. Harsh times, recession or not.

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The boomers had women, echo boomers had milfs and now we have gilfs. Harsh times, recession or not.

Pah holiday inn these days uses automated machines to give room keys instead of people, tis cheaper, copied off F1 hotels in Europe, which is great because you can park up watch somebody enter their code and go in for a wash and leave.

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Yes why not? It was Labour which abolished hard labour in prisons back in the 1950s. Since we can't have them undercutting people we can have them digging and filling holes.

You should see prisons in Asia even Japan and Singapore prisons are nasty, an acquaitance of mine spent some time in a Japanese prison (it was then found the evidence against him was fabricated and he was freed on appeal). He was woken up with a savage beating daily and was underfed purposefully to cause malnutrition. At which he was forced to pile up boxes from one end of the room to another. Non compliance was met with a savage beating. After 4 weeks he went nuts and attacked the guards, he was beaten unconcious and spent months in the hole, where he was strapped to a bed and regularly beaten the guards would also crap in his food and offer savage beatings or torture the prisoners for fun, which was actually approved policy by the government.

Now you try and say UK prisons are hard.

So it works and Asia is crime free?

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So it works and Asia is crime free?

It did work for football hooligans during the World Cup. IIRC they made a simple threat before the WC to anyone convicted of hooliganism - they would spend 10 years in one of these jails.

Funnily enough not 1 arrest for hooliganism during the entire event IIRC.

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In a prison room with TV and radios a serial criminals says prison is OK (I suppose he means no deterrent whatsoever).

Does he even have to pay TV license ?

http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/b00wh6ty/Newsnight_30_11_2010/

4 minutes ish and the rooms look like hotel rooms.

Consider how many people can those rooms be used to house..

...we will pay the true price for our neglect of purpose one day...... :rolleyes:

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and now we have gilfs. Harsh times, recession or not.

Gilfs, if only but it stops at G I'm afraid.

In fact the last place I stayed in, on some industrial estate miles from the place I was to work at, was largely full of Ukrainian lorry drivers walking around in string vests in -10C temperatures.

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