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http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/politics/wikileaks-set-to-reveal-what-us-really-thinks-of-david-cameron-2145790.html

David Cameron was bracing himself for the humiliation of public criticism from the Obama administration last night, as whistleblowers prepared to publish millions of classified cables between Washington and US embassies around the world.

Almost three million confidential files detailing the US government's private views on hundreds of allies and rival states are expected to be released by the website WikiLeaks this week. The White House has sent ambassadors on official missions to dozens of allies to prepare them for any damage that the cables could wreak on their relationship with the US.

Louis Susman, the American ambassador to London, met officials in Downing Street on Friday to warn them what to expect when WikiLeaks finally begins publishing details of the communications. He did not speak to Mr Cameron directly.

The Independent on Sunday understands that State Department correspondence between London and Washington covers a catalogue of sensitive diplomatic issues, including the release of the Lockerbie bomber, Britain's contribution to the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan and the Conservatives' position on the economy before the election.

Two years ago, it was claimed that President Obama referred to Mr Cameron as a "lightweight" after he had met the then-opposition leader in London.

It is believed that some of the embassy cables echo the criticism of the Tories' stance in opposition, questioning their approach to the credit crunch, including their opposition to Gordon Brown's decision to bail out banks with taxpayers' money.

Government sources confirmed last night that the sensitive cables, covering the 18 months between January 2009 and June this year, also offered candid assessments of Mr Brown, his premiership and his chances of winning the election. Downing Street was confident that the revelations would not damage the Prime Minister's reputation – or the "special relationship" between the UK and the US. One source said the files, which had been expected yesterday, would be "far more embarrassing" to members of the former Labour government. He added: "There are quite a lot of references to Gordon Brown being perceived as weak and unstable."

A number of senior ministers said the Cabinet had not been warned of any damaging revelations expected to emerge in the coming days.

But even a hint of disapproval, particularly over economic policy, would be a dangerous development for a coalition Government still in the process of establishing itself at home and abroad. The Conservatives have condemned Labour over its handling over the economy under Mr Brown, but any criticism from the UK's closest ally would be seized upon by opponents. The Obama administration is understood to have had concerns over Mr Cameron's position on taxation, the Iraq war, and his "neo-conservative" allies.

The economic revelations could be interesting. Although could these leaks be a distraction for something else?

What has UK tax policy got to do with Obama, or is Obama concerned UK taxpayers may not be contributing enough to the Church of the Giant Squid? Perhaps that's why he didn't like the Tories objecting to the bank bailout?

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The economic revelations could be interesting. Although could these leaks be a distraction for something else?

What has UK tax policy got to do with Obama, or is Obama concerned UK taxpayers may not be contributing enough to the Church of the Giant Squid? Perhaps that's why he didn't like the Tories objecting to the bank bailout?

Wut?

Cameron doesnt have any policies, didnt oppose, and is a first class twonk.

We dont need Wikileaks to reveal this.

Obama is a the same.

Time for my enhanced patdown...its the only pleasure I get from flying to the US these days.

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http://www.express.co.uk/posts/view/214196/Gordon-Brown-weak-and-unstable-

GORDON Brown and his failing government were described as paranoid, weak and ­unstable in secret briefings by US diplomats to President Barack Obama.

Downing Street sources said last night that the imminent release of sensitive diplomatic files by the WikiLeaks whistleblowing website would prove “highly embarrassing” to the former prime minister.

They are thought to contain damaging assessments of Mr Brown’s character and leadership skills and of the stability of his crisis-hit regime.

From the Express.

I think that's what most people thought of Brown anyway apart from die hard Liebor supporters.

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From the Express.

I think that's what most people thought of Brown anyway apart from die hard Liebor supporters.

GORDON Brown and his failing government were described as paranoid, weak and ­unstable in secret briefings by US diplomats to President Barack Obama.

10/10 for the CIA on that one - they should all be promoted to generals and have free flights for friends and family on Airforce One!

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Much as i like the idea of transparency, putting all this control in the hands of one unelected, unaccountable man who will undoubtably have his own political views scares the crap out of me.

Who decides what to leak? Who leaks Mr Assange's personal memoirs? Who audits him?

I know saying this is taboo in a world where it is seen as necessary to challenge authority (i agree), but challenging it in this way is going to end up with the same problems.

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GORDON Brown and his failing government were described as paranoid, weak and ­unstable in secret briefings by US diplomats to President Barack Obama.

10/10 for the CIA on that one - they should all be promoted to generals and have free flights for friends and family on Airforce One!

If it was confirmed Gordon Brown is a paedophile who was pivotal in the setting up of the Dunblane atrocity, that would be an interesting 'leak'

I think we all know Brown was "paranoid, weak and ­unstable". I suspect if they got rid of him either immediately before or after the election it would be a lib-lab coalition and not a con-dem one. Clegg (rightly) would never work with Brown. Why labour allowed him to stay on is beyond me, but then they did the same thing with Kinnock. They seem incapable of getting rid of leaders. Tories, on the other hand are more than happy to replace leaders at the drop of a hat.

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If it was confirmed Gordon Brown is a paedophile who was pivotal in the setting up of the Dunblane atrocity, that would be an interesting 'leak'

I think we all know Brown was "paranoid, weak and ­unstable". I suspect if they got rid of him either immediately before or after the election it would be a lib-lab coalition and not a con-dem one. Clegg (rightly) would never work with Brown. Why labour allowed him to stay on is beyond me, but then they did the same thing with Kinnock. They seem incapable of getting rid of leaders. Tories, on the other hand are more than happy to replace leaders at the drop of a hat.

Ah but seeing other country's 'officials' describing our beloved elected govt officials as such (sworn to serve us the UK citizens) will show the meandering (thru their daily drudgery) UK sheep exactly what type of unstable Wolf packs are actually in charge of them!

Wolf packs were used by Hitler to bring the UK to it's knees - look what our elected Govt officials have done/are doing by kowtowing to big business/the bankers.

They are traitors elevated to the highest echelons!

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Given that the basic theme of socialism seems to be forgiving, supporting, promulgating and expanding failure to an ever increasing segment of society, I see this as a simple act of intellectual consistency.

True. The soviets supported their leaders till they died, regardless of how stupid they looked. If they had the technology they probably would have kept the drooling carcass of Lenin as general secretary instead of putting him in a fish tank outside the Kremlin.

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Economic dissaproval from Obama and his cronies is good.

The US administration are muppets on economic policy for which the world is slowly waking up to.

Cameron and the coalition are seen as at least grappling with the problem amongst the world's economists and leaders who understand real economics.

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If it was confirmed Gordon Brown is a paedophile who was pivotal in the setting up of the Dunblane atrocity, that would be an interesting 'leak'

I think we all know Brown was "paranoid, weak and ­unstable". I suspect if they got rid of him either immediately before or after the election it would be a lib-lab coalition and not a con-dem one. Clegg (rightly) would never work with Brown. Why labour allowed him to stay on is beyond me, but then they did the same thing with Kinnock. They seem incapable of getting rid of leaders. Tories, on the other hand are more than happy to replace leaders at the drop of a hat.

The problem is the Cons have a system for getting rid of an unloved incumbent but the Labs don't. And any rule change by the Labs can be vetoed by the current, theoretically unloved, incumbent so it's never going to change.

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Economic dissaproval from Obama and his cronies is good.

The US administration are muppets on economic policy for which the world is slowly waking up to.

Cameron and the coalition are seen as at least grappling with the problem amongst the world's economists and leaders who understand real economics.

The UK Govt has instigated the same IMF-type of country destroying policies that wrecked loads of Sarf American countries in the last 20 yrs putting millions of poorest out of a job and into starvation!

They are evil scum, with evil intent, working for 'others' and it shows - you don't know what you are talking about! ;)

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Twitter - "We are currently under a mass distributed denial of service attack." 20 minutes ago via web.

Wow! Pentagon is on the case?

Whatever is in those papers, it must be dynamite. We need to trawl the internet tonight and try and grab what's going while it's there. I'm certainly going to.

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Economic dissaproval from Obama and his cronies is good.

The US administration are muppets on economic policy for which the world is slowly waking up to.

Cameron and the coalition are seen as at least grappling with the problem amongst the world's economists and leaders who understand real economics.

All i remember is Snot gobbler repeating 'the do nothing tories', contrast to everytime Gordon 'did something' the national debt increased by a few million.

Given that Cameron mentioned Taleb and Roubini, dangerous individuals, very dangerous individuals, im sure we can expect some kind of 'he does not understand the situation we are in' type drivel from Krugman et al.

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Wiki-leaks is now completely down. This may well be a co-ordinated attempt by several states to keep their dirty laundery from being washed in public.

We live in interesting times.

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Wiki-leaks is now completely down. This may well be a co-ordinated attempt by several states to keep their dirty laundery from being washed in public.

We live in interesting times.

Apparently Wikileaks passed the data on to 5 newspapers in case something like this happened. Including the Guardian. Here's the story:

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2010/nov/28/us-embassy-cable-leak-diplomacy-crisis

Saudi Arabia pressing the US for air strikes on Iran!

More being published over the week, like the Telegraph did with the expenses story.

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http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/politics/wikileaks-set-to-reveal-what-us-really-thinks-of-david-cameron-2145790.html

The economic revelations could be interesting. Although could these leaks be a distraction for something else?

What has UK tax policy got to do with Obama, or is Obama concerned UK taxpayers may not be contributing enough to the Church of the Giant Squid?

Think you'll find it's more of a temple really.

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Apparently Wikileaks passed the data on to 5 newspapers in case something like this happened. Including the Guardian. Here's the story:

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2010/nov/28/us-embassy-cable-leak-diplomacy-crisis

Saudi Arabia pressing the US for air strikes on Iran!

More being published over the week, like the Telegraph did with the expenses story.

Yep.

Among scores of other disclosures that are likely to cause uproar, the cables detail:

• Grave fears in Washington and London over the security of Pakistan's nuclear weapons programme

• Alleged links between the Russian government and organised crime.

• Devastating criticism of the UK's military operations in Afghanistan.

• Claims of inappropriate behaviour by a member of the British royal family.

Pity the last item will take the tabloids front page, instead of the first one.

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More being published over the week, like the Telegraph did with the expenses story.

It's suprising wikileaks have not released the data, they or someone who has it could torrent it.

Would be strange to have only the Guardian in the UK having access.

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Wiki-leaks is now completely down. This may well be a co-ordinated attempt by several states to keep their dirty laundery from being washed in public.

We live in interesting times.

If you wonder who could have a motive for bringing down the site immediately prior to them publishing US secrets, it does not leave many potential suspects.

However, as the secrets are out and going to come out, it would be a pretty pointless assault - it would only generate further publicity for the leaks.

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It's suprising wikileaks have not released the data, they or someone who has it could torrent it.

Would be strange to have only the Guardian in the UK having access.

Oh, I'm sure the Guardian will be unbiased in their handling of the information. There is a torrent available but its encrypted. Wikileaks are going about this release in a very political manner, they have changed a lot since they started out and I'm not sure it's for the better.

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