Number79 Posted November 21, 2010 Share Posted November 21, 2010 The Atlantis thread got jacked beyond recognition so there is a new thread here where we can share books, data and sites etc etc that have to do with the vast subject and all it's side shoots. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott Sando Posted November 21, 2010 Share Posted November 21, 2010 The Tocharian mummies hidden history http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-1362674044731979808# Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Qetesuesi Posted November 21, 2010 Share Posted November 21, 2010 Could you first explain what you mean by "forbidden" archaeology? Who forbids it and why? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tankus Posted November 21, 2010 Share Posted November 21, 2010 Erich von Däniken explained it all in the late 60's ...he was on the lizards case way before Ike Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Number79 Posted November 21, 2010 Author Share Posted November 21, 2010 Could you first explain what you mean by "forbidden" archaeology? Who forbids it and why? The short version is that the history books are BS, that archaeological evidence proves that and tells a much different and longer tale of man. Tptb have suppressed data and finds to protect the established story that we are all taught. There have been many archaeological cover ups. The subject is vast and tends to branch off all over the place into various areas of interest. Things like this Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
okaycuckoo Posted November 21, 2010 Share Posted November 21, 2010 But isn't that like drawing significance from an image of Jesus burnt into a piece of toast? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott Sando Posted November 21, 2010 Share Posted November 21, 2010 If you keep posting that picture, the men from the smithsonian institute will be paying you a vist Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott Sando Posted November 21, 2010 Share Posted November 21, 2010 But isn't that like drawing significance from an image of Jesus burnt into a piece of toast? Nah, the stitches at the bottom of the shoe can be seen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bloo Loo Posted November 21, 2010 Share Posted November 21, 2010 The short version is that the history books are BS, that archaeological evidence proves that and tells a much different and longer tale of man. Tptb have suppressed data and finds to protect the established story that we are all taught. There have been many archaeological cover ups. The subject is vast and tends to branch off all over the place into various areas of interest. Things like this winklepickers....looks like fashion is older than we thought...time to get me platforms out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Number79 Posted November 21, 2010 Author Share Posted November 21, 2010 But isn't that like drawing significance from an image of Jesus burnt into a piece of toast? not at all, one is ridiculous and based on belief alone the other is based on archaeological evidence. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Number79 Posted November 21, 2010 Author Share Posted November 21, 2010 If you keep posting that picture, the men from the smithsonian institute will be paying you a vist try this then The grooved spheres from South Africa, found in strata dating 2.3 billion years old, have been used in documentaries before and are well known. Grooved Sphere from South Africa Figure A2.9 A metallic sphere from South Africa with three parallel grooves around its equator (photo courtesy of Roelf Marx). The sphere was found in a Precambrian mineral deposit, said to be 2.8 billion years old. [p. 813, Forbidden Archeology] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott Sando Posted November 21, 2010 Share Posted November 21, 2010 not at all, one is ridiculous and based on belief alone the other is based on archaeological evidence. People do tend to filter out knowledge that hasn't been given to them by the tv, thery few people have enough curiosity to check things out for themselves. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frozen_out Posted November 21, 2010 Share Posted November 21, 2010 I'm fascinated by stuff like this. I'm convinced that mankind has a missing chapter somewhere, of course I have absolutely no evidence. However, I did get chatting to a bloke called Mike Barsoum at a conference a few years back. Now you won't have heard of him but Mike is a VERY eminent scientist in his field, numerous publications in Nature and Science, and a fair few front covers on the same publications too. He got talking to me about some work he'd been doing on the Egyptian pyramids and he'd more or less proved that the blocks towards the top weren't carved at all, they were cast blocks. Like concrete. Thus solving simultaneously the problems of how they'd got them up there, and why they were so perfectly shaped. Now here's the rub: He couldn't get the work published in any eminent journal whatsoever. No editor would touch it with a bargepole, the Egyptian ministry of antiquities didn't want to know and he was even turned down for a conference paper (anyone in the trade knows how unusual this is). Basically what he discovered and proved very diligently and scientifically was too hot to handle because it went completely against accepted wisdom. Eventually, after 4 years he managed to get it published in Jacs http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1111/j.1551-2916.2006.01308.x/abstract If something as simple and rigorous as this is essentially covered up by the establishment, imagine what would happen to a REALLY important discovery. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darkman Posted November 21, 2010 Share Posted November 21, 2010 Grooved Sphere from South Africa Figure A2.9 A metallic sphere from South Africa with three parallel grooves around its equator (photo courtesy of Roelf Marx). The sphere was found in a Precambrian mineral deposit, said to be 2.8 billion years old. [p. 813, Forbidden Archeology] get outta here Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Number79 Posted November 21, 2010 Author Share Posted November 21, 2010 get outta here try this then In June of 1934, members of the Hahn family discovered a rock, sitting loose on a rock ledge beside a waterfall outside London, Texas. The site primarily consists of Cretaceous rock (75 to 100 million years old). Noticing that this weathered rock had wood protruding from it, they cracked it open, exposing the hammer head. To verify that the hammer was made of metal, they cut into one of the beveled sides with a file. The bright metal in the nick is still there, with no detectable corrosion. The unusual metallurgy is 96% iron, 2.6% chlorine and 0.74% sulfur (no carbon). Density tests indicate casting exceptional quality. The density of the iron in a central, cross-sectional plane shows the interior metal to be very pure, with no bubbles. Modern industry cannot consistently produce iron castings with this quality, as evidenced by test results that show bubbles and density variations that have caused pump and valve bodies to break. The handle eye is partially coalifed with quartz and calcite crystalline inclusions, oval shaped, and roughly 1" x 1/2". you can see the hammer here at about 2 mins Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott Sando Posted November 21, 2010 Share Posted November 21, 2010 I'm fascinated by stuff like this. I'm convinced that mankind has a missing chapter somewhere, of course I have absolutely no evidence. However, I did get chatting to a bloke called Mike Barsoum at a conference a few years back. Now you won't have heard of him but Mike is a VERY eminent scientist in his field, numerous publications in Nature and Science, and a fair few front covers on the same publications too. He got talking to me about some work he'd been doing on the Egyptian pyramids and he'd more or less proved that the blocks towards the top weren't carved at all, they were cast blocks. Like concrete. Thus solving simultaneously the problems of how they'd got them up there, and why they were so perfectly shaped. Now here's the rub: He couldn't get the work published in any eminent journal whatsoever. No editor would touch it with a bargepole, the Egyptian ministry of antiquities didn't want to know and he was even turned down for a conference paper (anyone in the trade knows how unusual this is). Basically what he discovered and proved very diligently and scientifically was too hot to handle because it went completely against accepted wisdom. Eventually, after 4 years he managed to get it published in Jacs http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1111/j.1551-2916.2006.01308.x/abstract If something as simple and rigorous as this is essentially covered up by the establishment, imagine what would happen to a REALLY important discovery. that theory is already published by Chris Dunn its called the Giza power plant. http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=2676128221474744663# Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Number79 Posted November 21, 2010 Author Share Posted November 21, 2010 I'm fascinated by stuff like this. I'm convinced that mankind has a missing chapter somewhere, of course I have absolutely no evidence. However, I did get chatting to a bloke called Mike Barsoum at a conference a few years back. Now you won't have heard of him but Mike is a VERY eminent scientist in his field, numerous publications in Nature and Science, and a fair few front covers on the same publications too. He got talking to me about some work he'd been doing on the Egyptian pyramids and he'd more or less proved that the blocks towards the top weren't carved at all, they were cast blocks. Like concrete. Thus solving simultaneously the problems of how they'd got them up there, and why they were so perfectly shaped. Now here's the rub: He couldn't get the work published in any eminent journal whatsoever. No editor would touch it with a bargepole, the Egyptian ministry of antiquities didn't want to know and he was even turned down for a conference paper (anyone in the trade knows how unusual this is). Basically what he discovered and proved very diligently and scientifically was too hot to handle because it went completely against accepted wisdom. Eventually, after 4 years he managed to get it published in Jacs http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1111/j.1551-2916.2006.01308.x/abstract If something as simple and rigorous as this is essentially covered up by the establishment, imagine what would happen to a REALLY important discovery. Sounds like it has Hawass's finger prints all over it. Thanks for sharing, I will enjoy reading that. I have come across the theory before but never read the detail. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bloo Loo Posted November 21, 2010 Share Posted November 21, 2010 try this then In June of 1934, members of the Hahn family discovered a rock, sitting loose on a rock ledge beside a waterfall outside London, Texas. The site primarily consists of Cretaceous rock (75 to 100 million years old). Noticing that this weathered rock had wood protruding from it, they cracked it open, exposing the hammer head. To verify that the hammer was made of metal, they cut into one of the beveled sides with a file. The bright metal in the nick is still there, with no detectable corrosion. The unusual metallurgy is 96% iron, 2.6% chlorine and 0.74% sulfur (no carbon). Density tests indicate casting exceptional quality. The density of the iron in a central, cross-sectional plane shows the interior metal to be very pure, with no bubbles. Modern industry cannot consistently produce iron castings with this quality, as evidenced by test results that show bubbles and density variations that have caused pump and valve bodies to break. The handle eye is partially coalifed with quartz and calcite crystalline inclusions, oval shaped, and roughly 1" x 1/2". you can see the hammer here at about 2 mins maybe the wood would be a bit of a giveaway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Number79 Posted November 21, 2010 Author Share Posted November 21, 2010 maybe the wood would be a bit of a giveaway. AFAIK the wood has not been carbon dated and the guy that now owns it wont allow any further testing so there is a loose end there. The wood doesnt give anything away in explaining the composition though. Modern technology can not produce that. I remember reading that we dont really know how to used chlorine in metallurgy but to do so would take temperatures above what we are capable of producing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott Sando Posted November 21, 2010 Share Posted November 21, 2010 richyc you got to check out Chris Dunns work on advanced technology in ancient eygpt. He is an engineer who can tell when something has been made with precision instruments. Check this short article out My link Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ralphmalph Posted November 21, 2010 Share Posted November 21, 2010 The whole Irony of this is that it is now good money being thrown in after bad. They want to recapitalise the banks so that the banks can lend again. But lend to who? All these global multinationals that Ireland is so dependent on and so keen to keep do not bank with third world banks like the Irish banks they are just too small to cater to thier requirements. The Irish owned business sector is so small that the Irish banks can fund them. They want the money to restart the mortgage, peroperty developer scam all over again. This is the saddest day for Ireland ever. Just like when Brown bailed out our banks and said you have got to fund the housing market to get me releceted. Look at the houseprice graphs as soon as Brown was removed house prices started to fall, coincidence? I think not. This is a desparate last throw of the dice by dodgy politicans to get reelected next year by getting house prices rising again. Very sad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ccc Posted November 21, 2010 Share Posted November 21, 2010 This is all rather interesting. I have for some time wondered about a lot of things we are told. About old wars. About ancient history. About people existing or not. I was thinking that so much of it could just be made up, and none of us would be any the wiser. So much of what we 'know' is based on nothing more than trust. And I think that we can be pretty clear that humans can be untrustworthy a lot of the time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ccc Posted November 21, 2010 Share Posted November 21, 2010 The whole Irony of this is that it is now good money being thrown in after bad. They want to recapitalise the banks so that the banks can lend again. But lend to who? All these global multinationals that Ireland is so dependent on and so keen to keep do not bank with third world banks like the Irish banks they are just too small to cater to thier requirements. The Irish owned business sector is so small that the Irish banks can fund them. They want the money to restart the mortgage, peroperty developer scam all over again. This is the saddest day for Ireland ever. Just like when Brown bailed out our banks and said you have got to fund the housing market to get me releceted. Look at the houseprice graphs as soon as Brown was removed house prices started to fall, coincidence? I think not. This is a desparate last throw of the dice by dodgy politicans to get reelected next year by getting house prices rising again. Very sad. ****** this thread is getting even more interesting !! Does Ireland even exist.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ralphmalph Posted November 21, 2010 Share Posted November 21, 2010 ****** this thread is getting even more interesting !! Does Ireland even exist.. I do not know how I did that, but I think my point was the Irish need to do some archealogy at the end of the rainbow to survive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bloo Loo Posted November 21, 2010 Share Posted November 21, 2010 richyc you got to check out Chris Dunns work on advanced technology in ancient eygpt. He is an engineer who can tell when something has been made with precision instruments. Check this short article out My link Interesting. It has always struck me that many Historians seem to think the ancient peoples were somehow less intelligent than we are. AFAIK, they are the same as us. Plebs, lazy, enthused, clever, daft, humorous....exactly as we are. still , we know for a fact they had mobile phones in those days as never once has there been a telegraph pole unearthed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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