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Foreign Criminals To Be Paid £1,500 To Go Home

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Fvck off...

The Coalition, which wants to ease the pressure on overcrowded jails, has trebled the amount of money offered to prisoners who go back to their country of origin voluntarily.

Those who agree to return with up to nine months left to serve will receive a bigger payout than those who go at the end of their sentence, in an attempt to create more space in prisons.

Hundreds of criminals who have no right to remain in the country are likely to take advantage of the offer each year, costing the taxpayer millions of pounds.

Critics attacked the payouts as "obscene" when law-abiding families and victims were facing higher living costs, falling wages and widespread austerity measures.

The incentives, first offered by the Labour government in 2006 in an attempt to avoid drawn-out deportation battles, were criticised by the Tories when in opposition.

Under Labour, most of the support was made up of benefits in kind to ease resettlement, such as help with setting up a business or obtaining training or education.

The most the criminals were offered in cash was £500. The money is put on a prepaid card which means the criminals can go straight to a bank and withdraw the funds.

They are given £500 as they leave the country and another £1,000 within a month of arriving in their home country.

All they have to do is explain to the International Organisation for Migration, the body which runs the scheme overseas for the Home Office, how they intend to use the cash.

The handout is meant to help freed prisoners pay for such things as accommodation, setting up a business or medical treatment but officials were unable to say if any checks were carried out to see how the money was spent.

Foreign criminals could squander the cash and try to sneak back in to Britain.

The payouts have been tied in to an early release scheme under which foreign prisoners can have up to nine months cut from their jail term if they agree to return home.

Those who go early will be eligible for the full £1,500, while those who go at the end of their sentence will be eligible for £750.

British prisoners are given a £46 grant when they leave jail.

Last year, almost one in three – or 1,660 – of the 5,535 foreign criminals removed from Britain went voluntarily after accepting a handout, including a Malaysian migrant, Agnes Wong, who killed a 17-month-old baby.

If a similar number goes next year the bill for the taxpayer will be almost £2.5 million.

In opposition, Dominic Grieve, now the Attorney General, labelled the scheme "simply outrageous" and meant "crime pays and the taxpayer foots the bill”. Damian Green, who is now the immigration minister, said the then government had abandoned any attempt at removing foreign criminals and was instead “paying them to leave”.

On Tuesday, he said: “Every day that a foreign national is held in prison costs the taxpayer money, that is why I want to see them removed from the UK at the earliest opportunity.

“The Facilitated Returns Scheme is a practical solution that not only saves the taxpayer money in the long run, but also means foreign criminals are removed as soon as possible, denying them the opportunity to reoffend or drag out the removal process with frivolous appeals.”

The Home Office said the move would save money because the overall value of the package had been cut. Under the old system, packages were worth up to £5,000 but the majority was assistance “in kind” which is no longer available.

Lin Homer, the chief executive of the UK Border Agency, told the Commons home affairs select committee the change was “due to the current economic situation”.

Philip Davies, a Conservative backbencher, said: “People say crime does not pay but obviously it does if you are a foreign criminal. It seems quite obscene that criminals are basically being given £1,500 bribes for abusing our hospitality and committing a crime.”

On Tuesday it emerged that just a third of the 1,013 foreign prisoners wrongly released without being considered for deportation have been removed from the country since 2006.

More than 400 have been told they can stay, 121 are still facing deportation, 22 are serving new sentences and 70 are still missing.

Criminals come here in droves because we have such a soft legal system, especially when you consider that they can get benefits and housing after getting out by abusing our unbelievably corrupt social system.

I suppose the bar was set low enough to attract every scumbag in the world after our parliamentary expenses scandal, especially as nobody was sent to jail.

Why oh why do we live in such a stupid, unjust country?

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Fvck off...

Criminals come here in droves because we have such a soft legal system, especially when you consider that they can get benefits and housing after getting out by abusing our unbelievably corrupt social system.

I suppose the bar was set low enough to attract every scumbag in the world after our parliamentary expenses scandal, especially as nobody was sent to jail.

Why oh why do we live in such a stupid, unjust country?

What I want to know is, what on earth is to stop them coming back on a fake passport and starting all over again?

I hate the US system and bitterly resent having to give fingerprints etc. but maybe it's the only way.

But BTW our parliamentary expenses scandal would be regarded as a complete joke in an awful lot of countries. Not that I'm in any way condoning any of it, but when it comes to fiddling and enriching yourself while in office our lot are a bunch of kindergarten amateurs compared to so many elsewhere.

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Can't we pay UK criminals £1500 to f*ck off somewhere else too?

I believe Switzerland is popular with bankers.

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Why can we not just set a time limit on deportation procedures including appeals. Maybe 1 year max !!... Those that pop up in the Prison system should be treated as priority (maybe 6 months) so we can simply drive them from clink to the airport if they do not have the right to stay.

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how about, sentence, then deport, and if returned, carry out the sentence.

course, terrists wont be deported as other peoples justice is distinctly more harsh than ours.

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Simple, deport them.

But isn't it against their human rights? Did you see The Border Force - they only can deport those wo are either willing to go or monumentally stupid.

1. Tell them that you've lost your passport and you're sorted, as there's no way to establish where you should go.

2. If the passport is found on you, get married and have kids while the case is being decided and you can't be deported on the family grounds.

3. If there's no time to to do 2, claim that you're facing torture in your home country.

Every illegal immigrant knows that and there's no legal and/or humane way to deport anyone with half a brain, not from a civilized country. The only way would have been stoping welfare for non-British as this is the reason they come at first place, but that will be considered inhumane as well.

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how about. they go home anyway if they commit crime within 5 years of arriving to the uk. no £1500. you just piss off home with a ferry ticket an escort to dover. make your own way home after that.

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how about. they go home anyway if they commit crime within 5 years of arriving to the uk. no £1500. you just piss off home with a ferry ticket an escort to dover. make your own way home after that.

Why do you think France will be willing to accept them, unless they're French? The problem isn't removal per se, it's knowing exactly where to remove (ha-ha, I think I've lost my passport) and overcoming all the legal challenges that the foreign criminal will bring forward against said removal, usually claims of possible torture or persecutions in their home country.

If there was a simple answer, there would have been no problem.

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What I want to know is, what on earth is to stop them coming back on a fake passport and starting all over again?

You're making a big assumption there.. that they do leave.

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Fvck off...

Criminals come here in droves because we have such a soft legal system, especially when you consider that they can get benefits and housing after getting out by abusing our unbelievably corrupt social system.

I suppose the bar was set low enough to attract every scumbag in the world after our parliamentary expenses scandal, especially as nobody was sent to jail.

Why oh why do we live in such a stupid, unjust country?

In general I support this move.... £1,500 is cheaper than keeping them in prison.

I am sure though there is more to it.

If they are here illegally and we can deport them then thats what we should do ( no payment , although deportation does cost quite a bit I should think)

Where they are here illegally but we cannot deport them then bribing them with £1,500 might be in our interests if it measn we can get rid.

Where they are from Europe £1,500 might get them to leave but what's to stop them coming back the next day ?

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But isn't it against their human rights? Did you see The Border Force - they only can deport those wo are either willing to go or monumentally stupid.

1. Tell them that you've lost your passport and you're sorted, as there's no way to establish where you should go.

2. If the passport is found on you, get married and have kids while the case is being decided and you can't be deported on the family grounds.

3. If there's no time to to do 2, claim that you're facing torture in your home country.

It's simpler than that. you can't force them onto a plane, they have to choose to get on.

No airline will take passngers who are in handcuffs or resisting.

The worse that can happen to them is they get put in prison for disrupting a flight.

I'm in favour of drugging them up strapping fixed-line parachutes on them and pushing them out of the back of a hercules over France or their country of origin somewhere at 30,000 feet.

It's not like the French could complain, we wouldn't have broken any laws. The plane is British teritory until it land in another country. Landing by parachute from abroad is probably illegal in France, but it's not British nationals landing.

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