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http://www.irishtimes.com/newspaper/ireland/2010/1104/1224282635055.html

Wow - never seen such numbers out on the streets in a generation - the guards baton charged the protest repeatedly - lots of bloodied students.

Is this the beginning of an Irish revolution - the people really are so angry about everything, stranger things have happened.

And all because of the property lunacy - and corruption - and the resulting reverberations

Viv

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Look at the second photo with the Irish Times article above.

Here's more on the trouble: http://www.independent.ie/national-news/two-are-charged-following-angry-clashes-with-students-2406942.html

Even the organisers were shocked by the turnout - they were expecting 5-10,000 apparently.

A bit like that Vodafone protest in London and places the other day - nobody could believe the numbers, etc.

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I just read a book about him sending 50,000 Irish as slaves to the American and West Indies sugar plantations after killing a few hundred thousand Irish, about a third of the population with his wars there and such like. No wonder they hate him!

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http://www.irishtimes.com/newspaper/ireland/2010/1104/1224282635055.html

Wow - never seen such numbers out on the streets in a generation - the guards baton charged the protest repeatedly - lots of bloodied students.

Is this the beginning of an Irish revolution - the people really are so angry about everything, stranger things have happened.

And all because of the property lunacy - and corruption - and the resulting reverberations

Viv

... but mainly because of the euro

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http://www.irishtimes.com/newspaper/ireland/2010/1104/1224282635055.html

Wow - never seen such numbers out on the streets in a generation - the guards baton charged the protest repeatedly - lots of bloodied students.

Is this the beginning of an Irish revolution - the people really are so angry about everything, stranger things have happened.

And all because of the property lunacy - and corruption - and the resulting reverberations

Viv

I think that this is a measured and appropriate response. What is wrong with the UK students? I saw a pair of student numpties being interviewed yesterday on BBC News - they were totally apathetic and inarticulate. The reporter was asking them if the fees would put them off going to university, they just smiled, mumbled and shrugged their shoulders. One of them said something along the lines of "Ah well, if we have to do it then we will." The lad reckoned that the bill for getting his degree in film-making would be paid off easily once he got his job in the industry - yeah!

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It was William of Orange wot dunnit.

EDIT: (of course the link here to the Vodafone reference is that the head of the 'Orange' phone company (a subsidiary indeed) was a Dutchman....and they all love orange because of the House of Oranje - the Dutch Royal family).

:D

I posted CSNY's 'Ohio' the other day but didn't expect students to be baton charged by riot police quite so soon.

Considering we've barely got started on any of the generalised 'austerity' programs this doesn't look too promising for Govts. determined to protect banksters at any cost.

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There's a big UK student protest next Wednesday organised by NUS and kicking of at Horseguards Parade at 11am.

Be there or be square!

http://www.nus.org.uk/ - 10/11/10

Should be around 500,000 if on the same scale as Irish protest (I wish!)

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Its only students enjoying a free day out on the free bus. its not as if they are taking time off work to protest. If they did 18 hours study a week instead of six they could complete a degree in a year instead of three and save on student fees. I cannot afford the luxury of university so why should I subsidise others ?

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Its only students enjoying a free day out on the free bus. its not as if they are taking time off work to protest. If they did 18 hours study a week instead of six they could complete a degree in a year instead of three and save on student fees. I cannot afford the luxury of university so why should I subsidise others ?

Yeah, I agree, but why should education be corporotised - even the accommodation block landlords massively cream off our cash - we are put in halls sometimes where we have to compulsorarily buy shitty food, with profits going to you know who - we pay £100 a wekk for bedsits - we pay massive tuition fees and then there's no work.

I'd like to do a one year degree - guess who doesn't want it - the unis - less money to be made see!

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I think that this is a measured and appropriate response. What is wrong with the UK students? I saw a pair of student numpties being interviewed yesterday on BBC News - they were totally apathetic and inarticulate. The reporter was asking them if the fees would put them off going to university, they just smiled, mumbled and shrugged their shoulders. One of them said something along the lines of "Ah well, if we have to do it then we will." The lad reckoned that the bill for getting his degree in film-making would be paid off easily once he got his job in the industry - yeah!

Did you see Alan Davies Teenage Revolution?

Returned to his old alma mater (some previous hot-bed of student socialism). Back then it was all miners-this and workers-that, ban-the-bomb-the-other : typical idealist student politics as we might know it. The day he filmed the student union was running through the order of the day. Top of the agenda: a vote on whether a snacks machine should be deployed in the common room. :rolleyes:

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Its only students enjoying a free day out on the free bus. its not as if they are taking time off work to protest. If they did 18 hours study a week instead of six they could complete a degree in a year instead of three and save on student fees. I cannot afford the luxury of university so why should I subsidise others ?

100% agree - and I have two of the damn things.

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http://www.irishtimes.com/newspaper/ireland/2010/1104/1224282635055.html

Wow - never seen such numbers out on the streets in a generation - the guards baton charged the protest repeatedly - lots of bloodied students.

Is this the beginning of an Irish revolution - the people really are so angry about everything, stranger things have happened.

And all because of the property lunacy - and corruption - and the resulting reverberations

Viv

I like this quote from the article

"Behind the good humour, the placards also reflected real concern about a grim future of unemployment or emigration. One said “Pay My Fees or Pay My Dole”; another read, “BA Hons not BA to London”.

Lets hope next week's NUS demo in HorseGuards Parade suprises in the upside like this one did .... Anyone up for a 'kettle' in Trafalgar Square?

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Yeah, I agree, but why should education be corporotised - even the accommodation block landlords massively cream off our cash - we are put in halls sometimes where we have to compulsorarily buy shitty food, with profits going to you know who - we pay £100 a wekk for bedsits - we pay massive tuition fees and then there's no work.

I'd like to do a one year degree - guess who doesn't want it - the unis - less money to be made see!

Yeah bit like premium rate phone lines where they have long messages and talk slowly

I tend to watch Euronews, they show a lot more of these protests, and from high vantage points so you can see the massed crowds, I find British TV News companies seem to be very selective in what they show, always seem to try to make it look like 5 or 6 nutters rather than several thousand pissed off ordinary people

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There is a lot of that too.

They also want people to leave home and pay them rent.

Things are going to change. They have to.

landlords each every way you look :ph34r:

Always amused me the thing that you hadn't been to uni properly unless you'd left home - that was culturally pushed by the unis I'm pretty sure.

These scum used to sell me pizza and chips for £6 a pop and then chuck me out of the dining hall for corporate entertainment sessions.

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Yeah, I agree, but why should education be corporotised - even the accommodation block landlords massively cream off our cash - we are put in halls sometimes where we have to compulsorarily buy shitty food, with profits going to you know who - we pay £100 a wekk for bedsits - we pay massive tuition fees and then there's no work.

I'd like to do a one year degree - guess who doesn't want it - the unis - less money to be made see!

I agree with you. Halls of residence should be available free for every student. All accomodation should be provided on campus. Non profit making canteens should be available on campus to all students. Good meals would cost very little when buying food in bulk. All students would then be well housed and well fed. Lectures and tution to be structured over a five day week. four hours a week to include fitness training. Six weeks holiday spread over the year. If this was spread over two years most students would obtain a first. Universities would be in a better financial position with 50% more students passing through the system every six years. It would enable more overseas students to pay to attend . Its important to the UK that our universities become centres of excellence. Our future depends on it.

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I agree with you. Halls of residence should be available free for every student. All accomodation should be provided on campus. Non profit making canteens should be available on campus to all students. Good meals would cost very little when buying food in bulk. All students would then be well housed and well fed. Lectures and tution to be structured over a five day week. four hours a week to include fitness training. Six weeks holiday spread over the year. If this was spread over two years most students would obtain a first. Universities would be in a better financial position with 50% more students passing through the system every six years. It would enable more overseas students to pay to attend . Its important to the UK that our universities become centres of excellence. Our future depends on it.

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What's happened is it's all subcontracted out to scumsters - the corporatist take over of education. Maximising profit - that's all they want. They really don't give a shit if you're contracted in to eat on some of the worst canteen food ever cooked at eye watering prices. They don't give a damn if you pay through the roof for shitty bedshits in badly managed horrifically substandard halls. They want you to get p***** every night.

It's all VIs and their agenda is to maximise profit. Simple as. At the expense of their students. Shame on them.

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100% agree - and I have two of the damn things.

I have already paid for two. Five grandkids lining up to go next. They can all tell you how to find the square root of a jar of pickled onions but are lost when it comes to trying to get the lid off

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I have already paid for two. Five grandkids lining up to go next. They can all tell you how to find the square root of a jar of pickled onions but are lost when it comes to trying to get the lid off

:lol::lol::lol:

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What's happened is it's all subcontracted out to scumsters - the corporatist take over of education. Maximising profit - that's all they want. They really don't give a shit if you're contracted in to eat on some of the worst canteen food ever cooked at eye watering prices. They don't give a damn if you pay through the roof for shitty bedshits in badly managed horrifically substandard halls. They want you to get p***** every night.

It's all VIs and their agenda is to maximise profit. Simple as. At the expense of their students. Shame on them.

And then the polis kick your head in if you have the nerve to complain about it!

http://www.indymedia.ie/

http://www.indymedia.ie/article/98070

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What's happened is it's all subcontracted out to scumsters - the corporatist take over of education. Maximising profit - that's all they want. They really don't give a shit if you're contracted in to eat on some of the worst canteen food ever cooked at eye watering prices. They don't give a damn if you pay through the roof for shitty bedshits in badly managed horrifically substandard halls. They want you to get p***** every night.

It's all VIs and their agenda is to maximise profit. Simple as. At the expense of their students. Shame on them.

Shame on them indeed. They should stop contracting out. Everything should be in house. There should be a national standards university inspection team ensuring a minimum standard is adhered to or the establishment closed down until improvements are made. With central procurement arrangements the purchasing power of universities would be enormous.

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