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Some tw*t on Radio 4 this morning going on and on about how there's no evidence rents will drop if housing benefit is cut - therefore 'Kosovo social cleansing' will take place.

How about waiting and seeing what happens you f*cking idiot?!?! :angry:

And even if people have to move, so f*cking what? I and millions of others have to move all the time to find places we can afford you moron!!!

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Some tw*t on Radio 4 this morning going on and on about how there's no evidence rents will drop if housing benefit is cut - therefore social cleansing' will take place.

How about waiting and seeing you f*cking idiot?!?! :angry:

And even if people have to move, so f*cking what? I and millions of others have to move all the time to find places we can afford you moron!!!

was it the bloke off Shelter by any chance? been all over BBC News 24 today too

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was it the bloke off Shelter by any chance? been all over BBC News 24 today too

Yeah, that's the guy. No one challenging him at all or the BBC getting someone to give a balancing opinion. :angry:

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Some tw*t on Radio 4 this morning going on and on about how there's no evidence rents will drop if housing benefit is cut - therefore 'Kosovo social cleansing' will take place.

How about waiting and seeing what happens you f*cking idiot?!?! :angry:

And even if people have to move, so f*cking what? I and millions of others have to move all the time to find places we can afford you moron!!!

The Lefty's favourite response to this is "so what, everyone should be dragged down to your level?"

And that's the essence of their argument right there, the private sector and those in work in general should be working to improve their lot to match or exceed what's available from the state, regardless of how unaffordable and unrealistic that is :angry:

Bit like when the Beeb goes up against commercial alternatives who actually have to provide a costed and affordable service.

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What is his VI I wonder?

they are a charity which depends for its existience on housing costs being out of reach, so it is powerfulyl in their interests for the market to be inefficient, they also get 20% of their income from government grants

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There is some clever politics going on here though.

Who is going to be the major loser if HB is successfully cut and rents fall? Landlords, particlarly over leveraged landlords who have built their BTL empires on the back of HB.

These folks are almost certainly Tory supporters. I think this is why we have barely heard the real economic argument from the Coalition side. They are happy to let the scare mongers from the left paint this as a right wing 'nasty party' policy to obscure what it means for the landlords.

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There is some clever politics going on here though.

Who is going to be the major loser if HB is successfully cut and rents fall? Landlords, particlarly over leveraged landlords who have built their BTL empires on the back of HB.

These folks are almost certainly Tory supporters. I think this is why we have barely heard the real economic argument from the Coalition side. They are happy to let the scare mongers from the left paint this as a right wing 'nasty party' policy to obscure what it means for the landlords.

superb point

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I am firmly in the "so what if they have to move" that's life.

I earn more than the avg wage and I live in zone 5 FFS and the rent here is barely affordable as it is. What is wrong with commuting in anyway, plenty of people do that their whole lives.

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they are a charity which depends for its existience on housing costs being out of reach, so it is powerfulyl in their interests for the market to be inefficient, they also get 20% of their income from government grants

bullseye

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I am firmly in the "so what if they have to move" that's life.

I earn more than the avg wage and I live in zone 5 FFS and the rent here is barely affordable as it is. What is wrong with commuting in anyway, plenty of people do that their whole lives.

Exactly. I am in zone 4, commute an hour to work. I have had to move out due to the cost of housing and I resent having to subsidise people to live in areas that I can no longer afford.

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Exactly. I am in zone 4, commute an hour to work. I have had to move out due to the cost of housing and I resent having to subsidise people to live in areas that I can no longer afford.

And that's the backlash against the Welfare State in a nutshell. Nobody objects to a helping hand for the old, sick, disabled, or temporarily out of work. But people rebel when their taxes are used to pay for lifestyles better than they can themselves afford.

[nb - also applies to bankers, over-paid civil servants, politicians on expenses...]

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And that's the backlash against the Welfare State in a nutshell. Nobody objects to a helping hand for the old, sick, disabled, or temporarily out of work. But people rebel when their taxes are used to pay for lifestyles better than they can themselves afford.

[nb - also applies to bankers, over-paid civil servants, politicians on expenses...]

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Some tw*t on Radio 4 this morning going on and on about how there's no evidence rents will drop if housing benefit is cut - therefore 'Kosovo social cleansing' will take place.

How about waiting and seeing what happens you f*cking idiot?!?! :angry:

And even if people have to move, so f*cking what? I and millions of others have to move all the time to find places we can afford you moron!!!

I guess the london overspill of the 50s/60s/70s was the most bloody genocide to take place on these shores.

When do the reparations begin and people go on trial for these newly discovered abominations.

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And that's the backlash against the Welfare State in a nutshell. Nobody objects to a helping hand for the old, sick, disabled, or temporarily out of work. But people rebel when their taxes are used to pay for lifestyles better than they can themselves afford.

[nb - also applies to bankers, over-paid civil servants, politicians on expenses...]

Even most of the QT (GLASGOW!!!) audience seemed to support slashing Housing Landlord Benefit.

As usual, its the leftist elite misjudging the mood.

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And that's the backlash against the Welfare State in a nutshell. Nobody objects to a helping hand for the old, sick, disabled, or temporarily out of work. But people rebel when their taxes are used to pay for lifestyles better than they can themselves afford.

[nb - also applies to bankers, over-paid civil servants, politicians on expenses...]

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they are a charity which depends for its existience on housing costs being out of reach, so it is powerfulyl in their interests for the market to be inefficient, they also get 20% of their income from government grants

"Honour dies where interest lies."

I've been dying to use that quote for a while.

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Exactly. I am in zone 4, commute an hour to work. I have had to move out due to the cost of housing and I resent having to subsidise people to live in areas that I can no longer afford.

Yup, my thoughts exactly and I live nowhere near London.

I work hard and pay my taxes so if I can't afford to live there then why should my taxes be used to house people who don't work in said location.

I honestly believe the majority of working people would agree.

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Whats the deal about London anyway, its a terrible, overhyped, overpriced dump? I'd be glad to move out if I was stuck there, get a bit of countryside in your lungs.

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Whats the deal about London anyway, its a terrible, overhyped, overpriced dump? I'd be glad to move out if I was stuck there, get a bit of countryside in your lungs.

Its socialist (counter) logic to encourage the poor to live in one of the worlds most expensive, crowded cities, where what little they do earn goes far less than it would do anywhere else.

Either that or theyre worried about a shortage of nannies, gardeners, and so on willing to work for the minimum wage.

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It's a strange economy where working people now aspire to the standard of living of benefit claimants - which they do in many cases.

It's clear sign that the great pauperisation and dispossession of the last few years has been a complete success and the imposed claimant culture used for funnelling and directing money has been a key component in achieving that aim.

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Even most of the QT (GLASGOW!!!) audience seemed to support slashing Housing Landlord Benefit.

As usual, its the leftist elite misjudging the mood.

It's hard to tell which is which sometimes.

Who would ever have expected it to be the Tories fighting to cut rents to landlords, and Labour opposing it :blink:

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I am firmly in the "so what if they have to move" that's life.

I earn more than the avg wage and I live in zone 5 FFS and the rent here is barely affordable as it is. What is wrong with commuting in anyway, plenty of people do that their whole lives.

Exactly. I am in zone 4, commute an hour to work. I have had to move out due to the cost of housing and I resent having to subsidise people to live in areas that I can no longer afford.

Yup, my thoughts exactly and I live nowhere near London.

I work hard and pay my taxes so if I can't afford to live there then why should my taxes be used to house people who don't work in said location.

I honestly believe the majority of working people would agree.

It's not exactly eco friendly either. Having someone not working living in an area where people have to commute to for work.

They should get a job or move out - for the good of the planet.

With this angle to consider maybe the greens and lefties will be able to agree with the ConDem's policy.

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Whats the deal about London anyway, its a terrible, overhyped, overpriced dump? I'd be glad to move out if I was stuck there, get a bit of countryside in your lungs.

I would agree with you! There are much nicer places to be unemployed! :huh:

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