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A Nightmare Vision Of Britain In 2015

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It’s 2015. We didn’t manage to stop the Tory cuts and they’ve left Britain devastated. This would be our future

It could have been stopped. But here we are in 2015, in a future where Osborne and his Tory friends got their way and slashed public services down to almost nothing.

In London, at least 200,000 ordinary people have been expelled from the inner London boroughs.

At best, they are living in B&Bs on the outskirts of London.

They are allowed to come in to work in the coffee shops and the burger bars, but as night falls they have to start their long journey back to their run down estates on the city’s fringes.

Just to travel on a train to work each day now costs them a quarter of their income.

A nightmare vision of Britain in 2015

Edited by goldilocksporridge

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is anyone actually going to bite this socialist clap-trap?

In London, at least 200,000 ordinary people have been expelled from the inner London boroughs.

define ordinary people

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is anyone actually going to bite this socialist clap-trap?

This prediction looks spot on if not an understatement

Five years ago, many of them thought they had a secure job, if not well paid, and even a pension. Now they have nothing.

For four million or more there is no job at all.

And this IS going to happen just like sunrise every morning, "100% guaranteed"

Profits are high, bonuses are up, the spending review was a success, they said. And if it all goes too far, it’s the working class who will pay, again and again.

So...which part of this article do you call "clap-trap"? :P

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is anyone actually going to bite this socialist clap-trap?

define ordinary people

I think of myself as left-leaning. I don't buy it.

Some folks just can't see past their prejudices, unfortunately.

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And this IS going to happen just like sunrise every morning, "100% guaranteed"

So...which part of this article do you call "clap-trap"? :P

the entire socialist underpinning of subsidising unproductive work and calling them working class because of who they vote for whilst sh*tting on the rest

scum

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I'm fairly left wing too overall, and i don't buy it either. Where is the analysis showing what the alternative to the cuts is? where is the condemnation of a system that takes taxes from low earners to pay for unemployed claimants to live in expensive areas?

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In socialist mathematics increasing something by 2.5% a year eventually gets you to almost nothing.

the evils of compound capitalist growth. how awful heh.

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I'm fairly left wing too overall, and i don't buy it either. Where is the analysis showing what the alternative to the cuts is? where is the condemnation of a system that takes taxes from low earners to pay for unemployed claimants to live in expensive areas?

I was brought up under the militant regime of Derek Hatton and company in Liverpool in the 1980s.

I can get along with the centre-left, but I have seen the labour party hijacked twice by the loony left (militant/Liverpool, and latterly the Brown govt) and have to ask why on earth do Labour allow this to happen?

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Rubbish

I bet there will be far fewer than 200,000 asked to find less expensive housing . Also those that are asked to find it won't be travelling on the tube each day to work ,as they don't work.

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This prediction looks spot on if not an understatement

And this IS going to happen just like sunrise every morning, "100% guaranteed"

So...which part of this article do you call "clap-trap"? :P

All of it. They were saying the same kind of thing at the tail end of the last Labour shambles of the 70's.

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They are allowed to come in to work in the coffee shops and the burger bars, but as night falls they have to start their long journey back to their run down estates on the city’s fringes.

That sounds as though things won't have changed much since NuLabour's days.

It could just as easily have been called waking from the nightmare of 2010.

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I was brought up under the militant regime of Derek Hatton and company in Liverpool in the 1980s.

I can get along with the centre-left, but I have seen the labour party hijacked twice by the loony left (militant/Liverpool, and latterly the Brown govt) and have to ask why on earth do Labour allow this to happen?

So Brown was the "loony" left.

Brown was absolutely responsible for this mess without a doubt, but to atribute what he did to left wing extremism

is nothing but a tribalist failure to think.

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This prediction looks spot on if not an understatement

And this IS going to happen just like sunrise every morning, "100% guaranteed"

So...which part of this article do you call "clap-trap"? :P

This part "It could have been stopped." Are socialist extremists really so thick they think everything would be ok if we just keep borrowing to spend on public services we can't afford? Is that their long term strategy? ******wits

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Where do these effing socialists get their ideas from....

They should be on our side?!

They are advocating ever increasing rents for those idiots who still have jobs, whilst at the same time subsidising those who do not work... how 'Socialist' is that?

If these 'Socialists' had any real morals they should be supporting anything that will encourage lower rents for workers without the need for housing benefit. If no one doing a 'regular' job in London can afford to live there then surely these muppets should be doing what they can to reduce rents and house prices - shouldnt they? Or are there many personal vested interests ....

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Socialists against rent capping? :blink:

What the Tories are trying to do here, and I applaud them for trying, is reduce the vast sum of money that is going from the public purse into the hands of private landlords.

£21 billion is currently being skimmed of your tax to further the enrichment of a new class of people, the ‘propertied class’. Under the guise of New Labour’s social mobility policies they created an opportunity for people of every class with a bit of grey matter to invest in property – easy credit The benefits for New Labour were two fold; one, they seized a proportion of the middle class vote that had historically been the preserve of the Tories and two, they further strengthening their hold over the working classes by offering them a standard of living that was much better than had ever been seen.

Utopia? Well, no. The problem as always with labour governments is they don’t know when to stop. To most people, when the bill arrives on the doormat, there follows a short period of shock followed by a long period of contrition and repentance in the form of behavioural reform, cloth cutting and paying back. Not however New Labour, like old Labour, they bury their heads and concentrate on ever more elaborate ways to postpone the inevitable.

Since the early signs of an over inflated debt bubble in 2004 New Labour has tried every trick in the book, and created new ones, to keep their party going by feeding the illusion of wealth through the creation of more and more debt. For whatever reason and wherever it started in 2007 the market said, no, no more.

The bankers and politicians became aware that they had over egged this particular pudding and began the slow steps required to bring things back under control, whilst at no point telling you this was the case, ‘keep calm and carry on’ was the advice and the correct advice it was too and still is, complete panic would have brought about the complete destruction of the banking sector and, as enjoyable as the prospects seem, that is bad.

So Boris Johnston (and weirdly the socialist worker) is fearful of a Kosovan style cleansing of the inner cities? Yeah right. The truth, and he and his propertied chums well know it, is that 200,000 evictions will not happen. Why? Well who’s going to move in? Are there really that many people with the funds waiting to rent these properties? There may well be many that want them but they cannot afford them, if there were 200,000 working people (I refuse to use the term ‘hard working families’) willing to pay these rents and capable of paying these rents do you think any private landlord would choose a social tenant?

There will be many results of this policy; to begin with rents will come down, then property prices, as yields fall, with this will come a cheaper cost of living and eventually the UK may become a competitive environment to actually do something constructive and manufacture again.

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Socialist workers solution: Have fun on benefits, let your children be poor and pay.

They dont do themselves any favours. Its like choosing between hanging or guiloteene.

I guess theyre an irrelavence though.

I've never reqad such brainw4nked bull in all my years. Did these people never grow beyond the sixth form?

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