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Time off work due to stress has risen in the past year, and is a greater problem in the public sector than in the private sector, research suggests.

Public sector workers took on average 9.6 days off sick over the period, three more than their private sector counterparts, the Chartered Institute of Personnel and Development said.

More than one in three employers said time off through stress had increased.

The institute said the recession was to blame for increased stress levels.

Extra workload, worries about company reorganisations and domestic problems had led to higher levels of anxiety and depression, employers reported.

The research also found that more employees were struggling into work even when they were ill, because of concerns about losing their jobs.

"Compared with the private sector, more public sector employees are in challenging public facing roles such as social work, policing, teaching and nursing where they often have to deal with people in difficult and emotionally charged situations," said Dr Jill Miller, an adviser to the institute.

Blimey, how the hell is the Public Sector going to react when the recession hits them !!

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Blimey, how the hell is the Public Sector going to react when the recession hits them !!

Pathetic bunch of invertebrates. They wind each other up about being 'OH SO STRESSED - I CAN'T COPE'!!!!!

I live next door to a couple of leftie teachers. Their cars seem constantly at home, because they take so many sickies. They constantly bleat that teaching is so stressfull, compared to other jobs:lol:

'Pull yourselves together and get working FFS - they're only a bunch of kids'

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I sit in front of a computer playing around with data - I don't find that particularly stressful.

If I had to break the news to people that they had terminal cancer, had to control a classroom full of 15 year old kids or had to track down a murderer or child abuser I'd probably be slightly more stressed.

I think the, on average, higher stress levels in the public sector are more understandable in that context.

However when I briefly worked in a council a few years back I went from a systems administrator to a project manager within 6 months on the basis that the 3 other people working on the project all went on long term stress related sick leave. One had issues about his sexuality, one suffered seasonal depression and one couldn't cope with the additional work load after the other two left and had a breakdown. It was like a Daily Mail "make em angry" filler piece in real life. ;)

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I sit in front of a computer playing around with data - I don't find that particularly stressful.

If I had to break the news to people that they had terminal cancer, had to control a classroom full of 15 year old kids or had to track down a murderer or child abuser I'd probably be slightly more stressed.

I think the, on average, higher stress levels in the public sector are more understandable in that context.

However when I briefly worked in a council a few years back I went from a systems administrator to a project manager within 6 months on the basis that the 3 other people working on the project all went on long term stress related sick leave. One had issues about his sexuality, one suffered seasonal depression and one couldn't cope with the additional work load after the other two left and had a breakdown. It was like a Daily Mail "make em angry" filler piece in real life. ;)

True - but stress is caused due to a mis-match in skills and the job you do.

If you're not happy - get out. Sell your labour to someone else.

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Blimey, how the hell is the Public Sector going to react when the recession hits them !!

does this include the NHS? Because as far as I know people who work in hospitals are not allowed to go to work even if they have a cold (whereas people not working in hopsitals can). So this could have some bias in the average (maybe not enough to account for it - not sure)

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Pathetic bunch of invertebrates. They wind each other up about being 'OH SO STRESSED - I CAN'T COPE'!!!!!

I live next door to a couple of leftie teachers. Their cars seem constantly at home, because they take so many sickies. They constantly bleat that teaching is so stressfull, compared to other jobs:lol:

'Pull yourselves together and get working FFS - they're only a bunch of kids'

..and their parents who'll do everything they can to undermine your attempts to educate their undisciplined, needy, lazy offspring.

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True - but stress is caused due to a mis-match in skills and the job you do.

If you're not happy - get out. Sell your labour to someone else.

can also be due to sh*t management - amount of teachers leaving the profession doubled from 2000 when labour's reforms came in

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can also be due to sh*t management - amount of teachers leaving the profession doubled from 2000 when labour's reforms came in

Yep...

Scrap the LEA's, scrap heads and deputies, scrap most teaching support staff and let the qualified teaching staff get on with the job.

(Also let teachers bash the brains out of the rude,lazy oiks occassionally - word soon gets around and discipline restored)

Nice little saving there - job done.

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Yep...

Scrap the LEA's, scrap heads and deputies, scrap most teaching support staff and let the qualified teaching staff get on with the job.

(Also let teachers bash the brains out of the rude,lazy oiks occassionally - word soon gets around and discipline restored)

Nice little saving there - job done.

by promoting self-managed academies this seems to be happening - getting rid of centralised control and politiking, but not quite in the 'bash the brains out' mould!?!

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(Also let teachers bash the brains out of the rude,lazy oiks occassionally - word soon gets around and discipline restored)

No need. If schools have the powers to discipline/expel as needed then you don't need to do that. Simply have zero tolerance for poor behaviour and be willing to deny a mainstream education to those unable to behave. Establish schools specialising in dealing with students who are unable to behave so that we can do our best for them without having them ruin others' education

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No need. If schools have the powers to discipline/expel as needed then you don't need to do that. Simply have zero tolerance for poor behaviour and be willing to deny a mainstream education to those unable to behave. Establish schools specialising in dealing with students who are unable to behave so that we can do our best for them without having them ruin others' education

Problem with that scenario is that mainstream education is desgiend to churn ourt idiots, and the last thing the PTB want is kids not going.

They might learn something useful by accident instead.

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Problem with that scenario is that mainstream education is desgiend to churn ourt idiots, and the last thing the PTB want is kids not going.

They might learn something useful by accident instead.

I take it you are in favour of home education?

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Yep...

Scrap the LEA's, scrap heads and deputies, scrap most teaching support staff and let the qualified teaching staff get on with the job.

(Also let teachers bash the brains out of the rude,lazy oiks occassionally - word soon gets around and discipline restored)

Nice little saving there - job done.

That's a job for one of the ferals they have created over the past decades with their crap policies (Balls)

Feral Ferulers Incorporated - no recriminations on local teachers

Any shit brain parents have to go round the ferals house for revenge heh heh.

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I really do miss working in the private sector. No colleague or management incompetence, no one going off sick with stress, no neoptism or sociopathic empire building....

Happy days!

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No need. If schools have the powers to discipline/expel as needed then you don't need to do that. Simply have zero tolerance for poor behaviour and be willing to deny a mainstream education to those unable to behave. Establish schools specialising in dealing with students who are unable to behave so that we can do our best for them without having them ruin others' education

They were called Borstals and a certain film about them called 'Scum' upset a few do-gooders, so it was decided it was better to allow the disruptive elements to stay with the properly-behaved children...

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I agree with the zero tolerance approach. Teaching is stressful if bad behavior goes unpunished. My partner teaches in a school where a child threw a chair at a pregnant teacher (she'd been trying to get preggers for 10 years). Anyway, NOTHING happened to the child. There are other children who like to tell teachers to "***k off". Again, no exclusions. And this is 10 year olds.

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They were called Borstals and a certain film about them called 'Scum' upset a few do-gooders, so it was decided it was better to allow the disruptive elements to stay with the properly-behaved children...

Weren't borstals prisons? I am not talking about imprisoning children, just removing them from the mainstream to be dealt with by specialist teachers.

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They should increase the number* of public sector counsellors to help counsel the stressed public sector workers

(* they should make sure the number they employ is large enough to cover the sick days the counsellors themselves will need)

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True - but stress is caused due to a mis-match in skills and the job you do.

If you're not happy - get out. Sell your labour to someone else.

nonsense..once employed by Public Sector, they are entitled to stress.

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It's nothing to do with the stressfulness of the job per se. In the private sector people do not want to be signed off with stress as it will look bad for their career even if, ultimately, they do need that breathing space to avoid everything crashing down. In the public sector getting signed off is something akin to a sabbatical.

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What’s really needed to reduce the stress levels of these poor ‘jobs for life’ workers, is possibly more…..

 

 

Diversity Training! :lol::lol::lol:

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We've had this argument before (benefit of a working long-term memory) and the finding was that public sector staff don't go off sick with colds, flu, injuries, childcare issues anymore than their private sector equivalents. The difference seemed to be entirely due to long-term absences, i.e. the stressed and depressed brigade. Simply put, the private sector paid these types off after a couple of months (or fired them if contracts obliged), in the public sector they hang about for years, six months off, two weeks on - inevitably some of these types will be chancers. Trying to get rid of them opens an individual to accusations of bullying, intimidation, sexism, racism etc depending on the demographic of said chancer.

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