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http://uk.finance.yahoo.com/news/spain-s-gamesa-to-build-offshore-wind-factory-in-uk-reuters_molt-75d9b65646be.html?x=0

R&D centre as well as manufacturing, I bet the trade unions in Spain start bleating now.

On the same subject how many wind turbine factories is that now. We have Clipper already here with Siemens, GE and Gamesa all going to open production.

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No, I think you'll find that they do what the Italians have done here in Blighty and ship their skilled Spanish workforce over to do the work for them. The tax payer will somehow fund this through grants, project initiatives etc etc guarantee it!!!

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Brilliant. Yet another example of an industry where a British company could have done the job just as well but have lost out on the first-mover advantage because the sector wasn't backed by long-term initial investment (government or private).

High house prices don't help, but this is one of the main reasons for the decline in British manufacturing.

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Brilliant. Yet another example of an industry where a British company could have done the job just as well but have lost out on the first-mover advantage because the sector wasn't backed by long-term initial investment (government or private).

Uh, 'wind-farms' are expensive, unreliable, environmentally disastrous boondoggles which only exist because the government funnels billions of pounds of taxpayers' money their way. Why exactly would Britain want to be a leader in such a non-industry?

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Uh, 'wind-farms' are expensive, unreliable, environmentally disastrous boondoggles which only exist because the government funnels billions of pounds of taxpayers' money their way. Why exactly would Britain want to be a leader in such a non-industry?

Billions? Not even close. Here's a installation in the UK of only 25 offshore turbines....

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Burbo_Bank_Offshore_Wind_Farm

Enough electricity to power 80,000 homes.

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Billions? Not even close.

So trillions of wasted taxpayers' pounds then? Wow, the Green scam must have got even worse since I left.

Either way, it's the kind of thing that's likely to be slashed overnight when the government really have to cut spending; didn't the Spanish already cut most of their subsidies?

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So trillions of wasted taxpayers' pounds then? Wow, the Green scam must have got even worse since I left.

Either way, it's the kind of thing that's likely to be slashed overnight when the government really have to cut spending; didn't the Spanish already cut most of their subsidies?

You've formed your opinion by reading reactionary nonsense in 'The Telegraph'.

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So trillions of wasted taxpayers' pounds then? Wow, the Green scam must have got even worse since I left.

Either way, it's the kind of thing that's likely to be slashed overnight when the government really have to cut spending; didn't the Spanish already cut most of their subsidies?

I don't know, but assuming they have - can you join the dots on why it's a Spanish company that is now setting up in the UK to deliver wind turbines? Can you? Do you see it yet?

Edit: To make it clear, they benefited from the original Spanish subsidies and are now in a position to expand into other countries.

Ah, but they're just making the most of our own subsides you say! But it could have been the other way around if we had got our act together and supported a British company.. do you see it yet?

Edited by efdemin

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Brilliant. Yet another example of an industry where a British company could have done the job just as well but have lost out on the first-mover advantage because the sector wasn't backed by long-term initial investment (government or private).

High house prices don't help, but this is one of the main reasons for the decline in British manufacturing.

Ahh but I bet we lead the world in high frequency trading systems, and other spivery!laugh.gif

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So trillions of wasted taxpayers' pounds then? Wow, the Green scam must have got even worse since I left.

Either way, it's the kind of thing that's likely to be slashed overnight when the government really have to cut spending; didn't the Spanish already cut most of their subsidies?

Just out of curiosity, are you also in favour of scrapping the subsidies made to that other "green" source of energy: nuclear power?

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This is good news, GameSA are on the ropes with their share price hitting a 7 year low, one of it's major shareholders exited taking a loss.

(also Vestas, the world's largest wind turbine maker announced today that it is cutting 3,000 jobs)

If they get the money from the Government to build then by 2013 it could be looking better (according to GameSA) so I really hope this goes through.

http://uk.finance.yahoo.com/news/update-2-gamesa-ge-siemens-boost-uk-wind-sector-targetukfocus-1c7da04b139b.html

LONDON, Oct 25 (Reuters) - Global wind power developers Gamesa , GE and Siemens will invest more than 300 million pounds in Britain's offshore wind sector by building new turbine factories, the firms said on Monday.

The news comes as UK Prime Minister David Cameron announced his coalition government will maintain a 60 million-pound budget for adapting ports to offshore wind infrastructure.

"We need thousands of offshore turbines in the next decade and beyond yet neither the factories nor these large port sites currently exist. And that, understandably, is putting off private investors. So we're stepping in," Cameron said in a speech to the Confederation of British Industry on Monday.

The government also signed a letter of intent with the UK's Crown Estate -- the body which controls Britain's coastal regions -- promising to support the development of port infrastructure.

The three new turbine manufacturing plants alone could create more than 4,000 direct and supply-chain jobs, the companies said.

Siemens plans to open its manufacturing plant in 2014 and has shortlisted a number of potential locations on the northern and north-eastern coast, the firm said.

Gamesa will base the global headquarters of its offshore division in London, confirming a report from Reuters earlier this month.[iD:nLDE69620V]

Britain plans to build up to 32 gigawatts of offshore wind power capacity to meet legally binding renewable energy targets.

(Reporting by Karolin Schaps; editing by William Hardy)

Edited by northwestsmith2

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What ones would those be?

dysprosium , terbium , neodymium

http://www.smh.com.au/opinion/politics/scare-over-rareearth-minerals-underlines-fear-of-a-rising-china-20100927-15u0j.html

For a panicked moment last week, it seemed China had decided to cut off exports to Japan of a little-known, yet vital, ingredient in everything from iPhones to cruise missiles and wind turbines.

China produces over 99 per cent of dysprosium and terbium and 95 per cent of neodymium. These are vital to many green energy technologies, including high-strength, lightweight magnets used in wind turbines, as well as military applications.

The truly smart Chinese move is how it has put this advantage to use as a lure to encourage foreign companies to move manufacturing to China.

With tax rebates and other mechanisms, the authorities have made rare-earth elements 31 per cent cheaper to a foreign company that makes, say, wind turbines, in China instead of at home.

That, plus China's $US150 billion investment in wind turbines, means it is rapidly becoming the world leader in a renewable energy industry with tremendous growth potential. Likewise, its rare-earth advantage plus a $US29 billion investment in research supporting electric cars will help cement its lead in another growth sector.

Edited by Ruffneck

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