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http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/politics/defence/8073455/Defence-review-David-Cameron-says-42000-jobs-to-go.html

Defence review: David Cameron says 42,000 jobs to go
David Cameron, the Prime Minister, has disclosed that 42,000 defence jobs in Britain will go as part of 8 per cent budget cuts in the strategic defence review.

Thats a start. :o

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http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/politics/defence/8073455/Defence-review-David-Cameron-says-42000-jobs-to-go.html

Defence review: David Cameron says 42,000 jobs to go
David Cameron, the Prime Minister, has disclosed that 42,000 defence jobs in Britain will go as part of 8 per cent budget cuts in the strategic defence review.

Thats a start. :o

They will cut and cut until the only thing left to defend ourselfs will be the giant mushroom :huh:

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They will cut and cut until the only thing left to defend ourselfs will be the giant mushroom :huh:

Tough!

Defence costs and thanks to the last shower of sh*te we are all but bankrupt!

They had no respect for the armed forces and have left us with liitle options and this is just 8%...tomorrow will be interesting!

Every time I think of Blair saying we are willing to pay the 'blood price' my skin crawls.

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I didn't even know they had 42,500.

Soon our defences will consist of General Melchett, a dachshund called Colin and a tin of spaghetti.

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I didn't even know they had 42,500.

Soon our defences will consist of General Melchett, a dachshund called Colin and a tin of spaghetti.

Modern militaries are the antithesis of Heinlien theory, "Everybody fights." - Star Ship troopers.

IIRC there was a figure that for ever 1 fighting soldier you needed about 8-14 people to support that one soldier.

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I didn't even know they had 42,500.

Soon our defences will consist of General Melchett, a dachshund called Colin and a tin of spaghetti.

no,it's been coupled with the new Green Britain initiative and a mass-planting of shrubbery around the coastline to cause obstacles to potential invaders(plus reduce our carbon footprint similtaneously)

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It will be Tough if we are pushed into a corner and have no other option left.:angry:

Pushed by who?

If we were pushed into your metaphorical corner now, what would we do about it?

Its the same old line by the defence VI's, but just who do we need to DEFEND ourselves against?

Do we need 2 super carriers to defend ourselves?

Defence is expensive and the now limited resources at our disposal should be deployed wisely.

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Pushed by who?

If we were pushed into your metaphorical corner now, what would we do about it?

Its the same old line by the defence VI's, but just who do we need to DEFEND ourselves against?

Do we need 2 super carriers to defend ourselves?

Defence is expensive and the now limited resources at our disposal should be deployed wisely.

By your own people thats what! In that the elites KNOW we are doomed, and in a Injin situation british soldiers will shoot british people to keep the elites in power. The city of London police are already a private army (paid for by the slaves). Without a strong military when there is a collaspe (when not if) The British army will be ordered to massacre a town or two to keep order. If the people get angry at this they will be ordered to defend the capital to allow the elites time to escape...

Thats what the military have been about since 10000BC

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By your own people thats what! In that the elites KNOW we are doomed, and in a Injin situation british soldiers will shoot british people to keep the elites in power. The city of London police are already a private army (paid for by the slaves). Without a strong military when there is a collaspe (when not if) The British army will be ordered to massacre a town or two to keep order. If the people get angry at this they will be ordered to defend the capital to allow the elites time to escape...

Thats what the military have been about since 10000BC

Glad to see you have internet access in the bunker there.

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I didn't even know they had 42,500.

Soon our defences will consist of General Melchett, a dachshund called Colin and a tin of spaghetti.

32,768 office staff and "managers" and the rest people who actually defend our country I suspect. Bit like the NHS, lots of overpaid managers and very few doctors and nurses.

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Glad to see you have internet access in the bunker there.

The UK uses fiat currency, it has no intrinsic value but it has value because the government demands it in taxes. This demand is enforced by the law, the law is backed by guns. This enforces demand, if demand enforcement fails so does the currency.

The difference between somalia and the UK is a case of efficiency.

So while Somali war lords have to directly point AK47s at people to get people to give stuff to them. This is terrifically inefficient, as soldiers need to be paid to collect taxes.

The UK is different! Advanced brainwashing (which starts in school) exceptionally advanced propaganda means that the UK system is super efficient so people don't need an AK47 pointed in their face to make them hand over their stuff. They hand it over maybe grudgingly but do not put up much resistance to handing over their money. At present the UK does not need soldiers going house to house to collect taxes.

This brainwashing is so advanced people will jump to defend the current system of gun pointing fiat.

Some people lose the faith. For instance you get the odd granny who refuses to pay her council tax and she is kidnapped, this scares people into compliance. As it is almost universally shown on the news. It convertly says:

"Pay up or else."

How is this different to a gangbanger pointing a gun in your face?

Very little.

Once the faith is lost on a large enough scale bigger examples have to be made to 'force' faith upon people in currency and enforce demand. Iraq for instance would undermine the faith in the US$ so his country was bombed into oblivion. Iran sells oil in Euros guess what? They want to bomb them into oblvion too!

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By your own people thats what! In that the elites KNOW we are doomed, and in a Injin situation british soldiers will shoot british people to keep the elites in power. The city of London police are already a private army (paid for by the slaves). Without a strong military when there is a collaspe (when not if) The British army will be ordered to massacre a town or two to keep order. If the people get angry at this they will be ordered to defend the capital to allow the elites time to escape...

Thats what the military have been about since 10000BC

Difficult to see how the Arc Royal could make it up the Thames to defend london though

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Difficult to see how the Arc Royal could make it up the Thames to defend london though

No but it could provide close air support though, stick a couple of gun pods on it and strafe the lines of British protestors.

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Its the same old line by the defence VI's, but just who do we need to DEFEND ourselves against?

As I understand it, anyone trying to sneak more than 100ml of shaving foam on to a Ryanair flight, or anyone carrying a laptop bag bigger than 56cm x 45cm x 25cm.

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As I understand it, anyone trying to sneak more than 100ml of shaving foam on to a Ryanair flight, or anyone carrying a laptop bag bigger than 56cm x 45cm x 25cm.

...and we dont need two carriers for that

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Looking on the bright side ... less extremely advanced weapons in the amoral hands of the British political establishment. That's a good thing, right? No more invasions of places like Iraq and Afghanistan.

I've read that the fall of the Soviet Union was a bad thing for western democracy as our governments no longer had to pretend to be "free" so much anymore. Maybe the rise of BRIC militaries, and the retrenchment of ours, will bring back a bit more freedom for the average UK citizen.

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We've enough personnel and aircraft currently based there to hold it until the cavalry arrives so don't lose too much sleep over those pesky argies. ;)

So we say.....

In 20 or 30 years time it'll be revealled that we just had cardboard cut outs and a couple of blokes to move them about every so often...

For instance NATO had about a few days of ammo if the USSR ever attacked. The cavalry i.e the US forces wouldn't even be finished loading their kit before we'd be on the end of bayonettes. Much like it took Operation Corporate ages to get there.

I mean hell we don't even have a troop ship anymore like the QE2, and most likely Cunard would say no you can't borrow our ship.

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When a nation cannot generate enough wealth to afford it's army, then it is no longer sovereign. It's time to wake up, this country's wealth has been plundered and offshored by foreign companies.

What the hell are we supposed to use man? Harsh language?

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So when do we hand over the Falklands to Argentina.

Have many submarines have we got? We'll have to park one nearby.

An expert on Ch4 news just said if they Argies invade we don't have sufficient resources to get it back!

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When a nation cannot generate enough wealth to afford it's army, then it is no longer sovereign. It's time to wake up, this country's wealth has been plundered and offshored by foreign companies.

We can afford an army, its just that we can't afford to 'project' power as previously.... or to buy rubbish over priced equipment that doesn't work, like the Nimrod..... how on earth they managed to use old BOAC Comet airframes in 2010 is beyond belief! :blink:

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We've enough personnel and aircraft currently based there to hold it until the cavalry arrives so don't lose too much sleep over those pesky argies. ;)

Of course. The old Harwich - Hook of Holland ferry was sent down the Falklands. It never came back. Half of the ships sent were knackered when they got there.

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KInloss airbase in Scotland to be closed down as an airbase but may house some soldiers from Germany.

26/3/2010

There are around 1,900 personnel at RAF Kinloss, 1,600 of whom are service personnel and 300 civilians. There are also an additional 300 civilian contractors who work at the base, although following the early retiral of MR2, 108 of these will be made redundant later in the year.

http://www.northern-scot.co.uk/news/fullstory.php/aid/9563/Nimrods_will_leave_behind_air_of_uncertainty.html

7/4/2010

AN official commemoration ceremony, formal dinners, flypasts, parades, speeches, commemorative artworks and flypasts were all on the agenda last week as the Nimrod MR2 bowed out of service.

....

It is anticipated that the first of nine new Nimrod MRA4 aircraft which are currently in production will arrive at RAF Kinloss this summer

http://www.forres-gazette.co.uk/news/fullstory.php/aid/5777/Kinloss_takes_its_leave_of_the__Mighty_Hunter_.html

Is that April to summer 2010 2,200 staff with no planes and from summer to 2012, 2,200 staff with one plane?

What have they all been doing?

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