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I like getting away on holiday, normally in the UK, for a break. However, as a mid 20's Londoner I seem to be in the minority in that I've never done extensive travel (or left Europe for that matter). I would no doubt enjoy the Thailand/Australia thing and could technically afford to go for months now. However I just don't have that urge at all. Doesn't seem to just be middle class types, there's plenty of lads from my school who went straight into retail/supermarket work but have all generally taken months off to go 'travelling'

There's a couple of places I'd like to go before I die but the idea of a long time 'travelling' just has no genuine appeal to me. Anyone the same?

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I like getting away on holiday, normally in the UK, for a break. However, as a mid 20's Londoner I seem to be in the minority in that I've never done extensive travel (or left Europe for that matter). I would no doubt enjoy the Thailand/Australia thing and could technically afford to go for months now. However I just don't have that urge at all. Doesn't seem to just be middle class types, there's plenty of lads from my school who went straight into retail/supermarket work but have all generally taken months off to go 'travelling'

There's a couple of places I'd like to go before I die but the idea of a long time 'travelling' just has no genuine appeal to me. Anyone the same?

I find find traveling abroad so stressful, it defeats the purpose of going on holiday, and it also seems to me like throwing money down the drain.

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I like getting away on holiday, normally in the UK, for a break. However, as a mid 20's Londoner I seem to be in the minority in that I've never done extensive travel (or left Europe for that matter). I would no doubt enjoy the Thailand/Australia thing and could technically afford to go for months now. However I just don't have that urge at all. Doesn't seem to just be middle class types, there's plenty of lads from my school who went straight into retail/supermarket work but have all generally taken months off to go 'travelling'

There's a couple of places I'd like to go before I die but the idea of a long time 'travelling' just has no genuine appeal to me. Anyone the same?

you should get out more.

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you should get out more.

I like travelling but just around the UK - can't stand having to put up with other languages, and I despise flying. I spend a long weekend somewhere around once a month.

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People say they like travel to 'experience other cultures' but if we're talking a typical holiday you'd experience more of the culture in a meaningful way by reading a book about it.

Yes, if all you're doing is staying in a hotel that may or may not be nice, eating out more and seeing a few interesting sights you may as well stay home and avoid the hassle.

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I like getting away on holiday, normally in the UK, for a break. However, as a mid 20's Londoner I seem to be in the minority in that I've never done extensive travel (or left Europe for that matter). I would no doubt enjoy the Thailand/Australia thing and could technically afford to go for months now. However I just don't have that urge at all. Doesn't seem to just be middle class types, there's plenty of lads from my school who went straight into retail/supermarket work but have all generally taken months off to go 'travelling'

There's a couple of places I'd like to go before I die but the idea of a long time 'travelling' just has no genuine appeal to me. Anyone the same?

You may find in later life that you look back at your achievements and experiences, and any foreign travel you did will seem much more significant. I count myself very lucky to have travelled so much during my lifetime, and without realising it consciously, those experiences do seem to define most of my past.

Life is short, and we do have this one planet to freely explore, so why not investigate it? I think most other stuff is trivial in comparison.

Travel teaches you lessons you didn't know needed to be learnt, and gives an entirely new perspective on this silly rat race.

Airports and taxis are certainly a pain in the ass, but in 20 years time it won't be those little details that are important.

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Airports and taxis are certainly a pain in the ass, but in 20 years time it won't be those little details that are important.

Travel overland instead..... but then again borders are getting tough to cross. Azerbaijan a country I hate got even worse 3 months ago! They demand $1520 on the border for you to go in. They 'promise' to give it you back on leaving the country. Considering Azerbaijan I saw was full of shysters if I were to ever visit central Asia I'd rather cross Turkey and Iraq/Iran than go to Azerbaijan. Egypt demands $2000 or a carnet which is legit.

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It's all on the internet! Why move from your sofa? :huh:

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I think that getting away for a while is essential for getting a real perspective on where you live, but I don't think that it really matters where or how many different places. I think it's very much dependant on the person what they get from travel. I find I can get a lot from relatively little travel - I'm sure I haven't been around more than the average, but I find I take in a lot of detail. On the other hand I know a number of people who have travelled extensively, but you couldn't tell and it has had very little effect on their outlook on life - seems to confirm that the travel within is more important. I think maybe some travel for the wrong reasons - the old, "if I do x or buy y then it will make my life better" - always looking for the external to make changes.

Funnily enough anyone I know who has lived abroad for a reasonably long time tend to talk more about how similar the average joe is around the world as opposed to the wonder of experiencing other cultures.

The appeal of travel has worn off a bit for me - I hate flying, hate hotels and find that there is a huge amount of variety and experience in the UK if one is prepared to look.

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I never go anywhere.

I hate travelling, particularly the never ending hanging around in airports.

Try Google Streetview, now on all continents. Attendance at airport unnecessary.

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People say they like travel to 'experience other cultures' but if we're talking a typical holiday you'd experience more of the culture in a meaningful way by reading a book about it.

Yes, if all you're doing is staying in a hotel that may or may not be nice, eating out more and seeing a few interesting sights you may as well stay home and avoid the hassle.

Totally - I lived in Austria for a year after Uni teaching English. Although Western Europe, my experiences of that culture were so negative that I realised how British/English I was, and embrace and defend it now! The only other place I can see myself living in is New York, and perhaps Rome. Those places seem to have the values closest to those I care about.

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You may find in later life that you look back at your achievements and experiences, and any foreign travel you did will seem much more significant. I count myself very lucky to have travelled so much during my lifetime, and without realising it consciously, those experiences do seem to define most of my past.

Life is short, and we do have this one planet to freely explore, so why not investigate it? I think most other stuff is trivial in comparison.

Travel teaches you lessons you didn't know needed to be learnt, and gives an entirely new perspective on this silly rat race.

I agree with that point, but there's a danger when looking back over a period of your life and applying a narrative which fits neatly with your self-image: someone who is proud of being well-travelled will disproportionately cite the influences of experiences abroad in the same way that people who consider themselves 'grafters' will remember all their hard work, but perhaps not the help (or luck) they had along the way. Life is happily a good deal more complex than that.

And that's before you consider the different type and quality of travel experiences - some (good and bad) can be challenging and life-affirming, others (good and bad) will have neglible impact, so a grand phrase like Travel teaches you lessons you didn't know needed to be learnt, and gives an entirely new perspective on this silly rat race is pretty meaningless.

For what it's worth I like travelling as I like meeting people and having fun - its a good opportunity for both. Travelling is something I do reasonably often and I always look forward to teh next time, but if I needed to go abroad for insight into my life I'd worry about a lack of self-awareness.

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If you look on any dating type website travel is always cited as a favourite interest. I always feel like replying 'I'm a National Express coach driver, I think we're a perfect match'.

I certainly like visiting new and different places but I do feel that travel seems to have become a bit of a 'thing' and a tickbox exercise for people whose lives are a bit rudderless and don't really know what to do to enjoy themselves unless it's in the form of some sort of set exercise.

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There's a couple of places I'd like to go before I die but the idea of a long time 'travelling' just has no genuine appeal to me. Anyone the same?

If I travel, I like it to be for entertainment. Thailand was great in this way. I didn't understand any of the language and knew nothing of the culture, but marvelled at the sights, sounds, smells and tastes. After about a week I had had enough. It was so different to where I lived (on almost every level). I really enjoyed being a tourist and being part of the package tour.

Being an expat is totally different. After several years your new country becomes "normal" and your native land becomes "exotic." Reverse culture shock can really creep up on you. :o

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I think that getting away for a while is essential for getting a real perspective on where you live, but I don't think that it really matters where or how many different places. I think it's very much dependant on the person what they get from travel. I find I can get a lot from relatively little travel - I'm sure I haven't been around more than the average, but I find I take in a lot of detail. On the other hand I know a number of people who have travelled extensively, but you couldn't tell and it has had very little effect on their outlook on life - seems to confirm that the travel within is more important. I think maybe some travel for the wrong reasons - the old, "if I do x or buy y then it will make my life better" - always looking for the external to make changes.

Funnily enough anyone I know who has lived abroad for a reasonably long time tend to talk more about how similar the average joe is around the world as opposed to the wonder of experiencing other cultures.

The appeal of travel has worn off a bit for me - I hate flying, hate hotels and find that there is a huge amount of variety and experience in the UK if one is prepared to look.

There is and you should also try the specialist county food - most have a cheese/bread/meat/fish dish/pie/booze

(I love lincolnshire poacher which I never heard of till I visited)

eg pasties - real cornish pasties are disgusting, cabbage/turnips in them and the old 'proper' ones have half meat/veg - fruit desert on one side too)

Starry-gazey pie, Stotty cake from the geordies, staffordshire oat cake wraps etc

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I don't enjoy travel and aren't in a hurry to go around the world. There's plenty of natural stuff I'd like to see but there's nothing on the human side that appeals, and being different just makes it uncomfortable.

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Im mid 20s never travel. Except to visit family in Germany. I dont mind travelling, its the packing/unpacking i hate. I mean i REALLY hate packing and unpacking. Its almost a phobia.

So much of this country i havent explored anyway.

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Depends what sort of person you are. Personally I love arriving in some random little place with no idea what the ****** I will do. Brilliant. What life is all about for me. And it nearly always works out great. And when it doesn't ? You muddle on through.

Was once dropped off by a bus on a classic deserted crossroad near the border of Honduras and Guatemala. Literally the middle of nowhere. Was told a random pick up truck would be along later and would take me to the border. So just sat down and read my book till it arrived. Nobody anywhere. Totally deserted. Love that shit. Not a worry in the World.

I do know people who in the same situation would be having a heart attack !!

Although as you get older the idea of some nice arranged trip does start to get a bit more attractive.

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