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Find It Hard To Get Another Job These Days?

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maybe its just me - but seems fairly difficult to get another decent job. How many times have you had a crap day at work, and thought ok - thats it I am getting another job - then reality of trying to find another job kicks in, and you just stay where you are. How many people take jobs they are overqualified for, and are offered no further training or a chance to do something else by their bosses - left to rot.

Send out CVs, occasionally leads to the odd reply. Then you get agencies who want reference contacts before you even get to an interview. Then you spend time filling out application forms - sometimes leads to something. Then you have timewaster interviews, who ask lots of stupid questions. Then you get lots of annoying questions like why are you leaving - and you not allowed to mention the fact its a shambles, no opportunities, bad management - you have to come out with some nonsense like your looking for new opportunites.

Then you have to use internal references which might be your current boss, who is not happy about you moving so might not be forthcoming with a reference, or its an difficult job of saying you wish to leave.

Then you have internal vacancies - where the management have already decided who they want - and applying for them may get in you in hot water.

Just feels like companies keep their employees captive until they are of no use to them, and try to make moving to another dept or company difficult.

Therefore they only thing you can do is - Is just do your current job to the best of your ability and hope you get promoted.

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Yes. I think many people are wedded to terrible jobs in dreadful workplaces because they have climbed the greasy pole enough to earn a modestly okay salary at Acme Ltd. In the labour market, however, it seems as if many businesses start new people many rungs below what they were doing before just because they can.

I've seen this countless times over the years - £35k white collar workers suddenly find they're struggling to get 20K on the open market elsewhere.

As the poster above said - if you are successfully self employed at least any extra revenues raised by your efforts go straight to you and you're not at the mercy of w*nkers for which you have no respect and could sack you at the drop of a hat.

Even if you just want a like for like swap in a less soul-crushing, better run environment it's hard. Over the last two years I've applied for a couple of dozen jobs I was perfectly suited for and didn't even make interview. I'm guessing advertised posts are getting dozens or hundreds of well qualified applicants.

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Yes. I think many people are wedded to terrible jobs in dreadful workplaces because they have climbed the greasy pole enough to earn a modestly okay salary at Acme Ltd. In the labour market, however, it seems as if many businesses start new people many rungs below what they were doing before just because they can.

I've seen this countless times over the years - £35k white collar workers suddenly find they're struggling to get 20K on the open market elsewhere.

As the poster above said - if you are successfully self employed at least any extra revenues raised by your efforts go straight to you and you're not at the mercy of w*nkers for which you have no respect and could sack you at the drop of a hat.

Even if you just want a like for like swap in a less soul-crushing, better run environment it's hard. Over the last two years I've applied for a couple of dozen jobs I was perfectly suited for and didn't even make interview. I'm guessing advertised posts are getting dozens or hundreds of well qualified applicants.

Yep - I find the same thing lots of jobs your well suited for - but not a hint of an interview, or any contact back. Or try applying for something thats your a bit inexperienced for and there is no hope of a job offer, or indeed trying to make a career change into something different seems impossible when its a struggle to get interviews in your own field.

Another worrying aspect is - perhaps many of the jobs that are advertised they have already found someone for the position, or there just testing the water to see who applies - I get the feeling that a lot of workplaces - the jobs unless there a something special or a niche can pretty much be done by anyone so the management are happy to pick someone they want in the position rather than leave the job to open competition and interview etc - they want to make their lives easy.

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I think it's just a case that there so few 'good' jobs available that there are too many applicants. Even when the no hopers have been filtered out there are still probably dozens of applicants that could do the job with knobs on.

Out of those dozens there will be those stuck in low paid rubbish jobs or temporary jobs that would be perfectly capable of doing something ten times as demanding. My current employer runs a small graduate scheme and the graduates are supposed to be fast tracked. Yet our low paid school leaver types jobs are often done by graduates too, some of whom overlap in quality with the graduate trainees, but they have no special status. It sometimes seems as if the recruitment process for the graduate scheme simply seeks to find breathlessly bubbly and enthusiastic people rather than competent ones.

With 75% percent of new jobs growth in the lowest paid sectors millions of people will be capable of far more than than job they're stuck with. I now have several friends who are starting businesses or going self employed as it's the only way to leverage their skills and intelligence. As their pay was so low it wasn't much of a risk as they didn't need much income to be no worse off than before. I was speaking to a friend a while back who was made up to have made £30k for the year after getting stuck in McOffice jobs for years and limping to £18k.

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I've started a not so great job last week FT which keeps me sane. I am vastly overqualified for the job but I'm just limping along in it.

Anyway to the OP a few words of wisdom, from Bruce Lee who plagarised it from Lao Tsu or Sun Wu. Who Robert Heinlein took for the basis of Lazarus Long in Time Enough for Love.

Be like water and flexible to fit the circumstances that crop up in life. Keep your knives sharp and keep more than one in your inventory so that you can adapt to any circumstances that occur in your journey of life.

Myself for instance I do all sorts of stuff, I can cook (chef), I can fix things, write dissertations (for a fee) write articles, do accountancy, audit, tax and do many things on the side meaning I'm rarely trapped. For instance the past 2 months I wrote 2 dissertations, installed a couple of exhausts and worked a few weekends in a small take out place. If you niche yourself up sure you get more money and the possibility of climbing a greasy pole, but if the pole vanishes you're stuck. While I'm less specialised I make less but I'm never really out of work.

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I've started a not so great job last week FT which keeps me sane. I am vastly overqualified for the job but I'm just limping along in it.

Anyway to the OP a few words of wisdom, from Bruce Lee who plagarised it from Lao Tsu or Sun Wu. Who Robert Heinlein took for the basis of Lazarus Long in Time Enough for Love.

Be like water and flexible to fit the circumstances that crop up in life. Keep your knives sharp and keep more than one in your inventory so that you can adapt to any circumstances that occur in your journey of life.

Myself for instance I do all sorts of stuff, I can cook (chef), I can fix things, write dissertations (for a fee) write articles, do accountancy, audit, tax and do many things on the side meaning I'm rarely trapped. For instance the past 2 months I wrote 2 dissertations, installed a couple of exhausts and worked a few weekends in a small take out place. If you niche yourself up sure you get more money and the possibility of climbing a greasy pole, but if the pole vanishes you're stuck. While I'm less specialised I make less but I'm never really out of work.

Yes, and variety can keep you sane. Occasionally I may have to work at another location for a day or two and even the work is the same old, just a new office and new faces can give a burst of energy. The Mrs has a part time job but freelances in several areas and makes more a year than either of us would realistically by climbing the greasy pole. I'm doing the same with a couple of sidelines but the day job has got so demanding that I can't take on much extra work despite plenty of demand. I feel like I might just quit in the next few months and give the freelance lifestyle a shot while I still have the youth an verve to go for it.

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