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Spot on!!!

Only problem though is that it's factual and should be on wikipedia :lol::lol::lol:

Thanks to the OP for posting this! Its hilarious! The post on PFI has had me chuckling all morning..

http://uncyclopedia.wikia.com/wiki/PFI

Instead they pathetically decided to devise a scheme to bribe the spivs to be their friends. Obviously the spivs needed some massive bribes to be seen hanging about with a maniacal looking billy no mates with evil eyes and his fat Scottish sidekick.

:lol:

The sad thing is its, so true though! :(

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Christ, presumed those quotes were made up, they are linked to in a Guardian article

I find attempts at self-justification worse than the 'crime' tbh. I suppose it helps maintain the ability to get angry about welfare scroungers by separating themselves from such groups

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Humurous but a load of rubbish to be honest.

Lets all think about the BTL's we know personally. I know a few. Not one of them is a raving right wing Thatcherist lunatic, None are mean, rude, bully's, arrogant.

In fact most BTl'ers I know are either retired or work normal jobs and bought into the idea for financial security. None of them brag (anymore anyway). None of them are evil. They saw opportunity and went with it. They didnt understand the problems its had for FTB'ers, It wasnt malicious.

We have to except that BTl, as long as you didnt jump in with 100% mortgages in 2006/7, Have been excellent financial moves and continue to be so. I'm afraid thats not going to change soon either. The idea that BTL'ers are writhing in there own miss fortune is total rubbish. The ones i know are as happy as ever. Yes, there are some who are squirming. Just like SOME homeowners are squirming. Just like SOME savers are squirming. Just like lets face it, were all squirming over missing the boat all those years ago.

Some may have other experiences of BTL'ers but I think if were honest we'd agree most are just like you and I?

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'Buy-to-let parasitism has been promoted on British television for over a decade. A shit parade of awful scum have promoted buy-to-let on dire DIY TV shows like How to be a property spiv on Channel 5, Kirsty Allsop's Property Porn on Channel 4, and the BBC's House Prices Can Only Go Up.'

:lol::lol::lol:

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Humurous but a load of rubbish to be honest.

Lets all think about the BTL's we know personally. I know a few. Not one of them is a raving right wing Thatcherist lunatic, None are mean, rude, bully's, arrogant.

In fact most BTl'ers I know are either retired or work normal jobs and bought into the idea for financial security. None of them brag (anymore anyway). None of them are evil. They saw opportunity and went with it. They didnt understand the problems its had for FTB'ers, It wasnt malicious.

We have to except that BTl, as long as you didnt jump in with 100% mortgages in 2006/7, Have been excellent financial moves and continue to be so. I'm afraid thats not going to change soon either. The idea that BTL'ers are writhing in there own miss fortune is total rubbish. The ones i know are as happy as ever. Yes, there are some who are squirming. Just like SOME homeowners are squirming. Just like SOME savers are squirming. Just like lets face it, were all squirming over missing the boat all those years ago.

Some may have other experiences of BTL'ers but I think if were honest we'd agree most are just like you and I?

If you show me a BLTler who supports housing benefit reduction, credit tightening, tax to discourage second home ownership, relaxation of planing regs, reasonable interest rates etc etc infact sustainable housing policies in general then I'll accept that they arnt a complete selfish ****

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'Buy-to-let parasitism has been promoted on British television for over a decade. A shit parade of awful scum have promoted buy-to-let on dire DIY TV shows like How to be a property spiv on Channel 5, Kirsty Allsop's Property Porn on Channel 4, and the BBC's House Prices Can Only Go Up.'

:lol::lol::lol:

Look up the PFI one. The hospital picture is pure genius.

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Humurous but a load of rubbish to be honest.

Lets all think about the BTL's we know personally. I know a few. Not one of them is a raving right wing Thatcherist lunatic, None are mean, rude, bully's, arrogant.

In fact most BTl'ers I know are either retired or work normal jobs and bought into the idea for financial security. None of them brag (anymore anyway). None of them are evil. They saw opportunity and went with it. They didnt understand the problems its had for FTB'ers, It wasnt malicious.

We have to except that BTl, as long as you didnt jump in with 100% mortgages in 2006/7, Have been excellent financial moves and continue to be so. I'm afraid thats not going to change soon either. The idea that BTL'ers are writhing in there own miss fortune is total rubbish. The ones i know are as happy as ever. Yes, there are some who are squirming. Just like SOME homeowners are squirming. Just like SOME savers are squirming. Just like lets face it, were all squirming over missing the boat all those years ago.

Some may have other experiences of BTL'ers but I think if were honest we'd agree most are just like you and I?

You just don't get it - do you?

I suggest you start frequenting this site for majority of your reading

http://www.bbc.co.uk/cbeebies/

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Humurous but a load of rubbish to be honest.

Lets all think about the BTL's we know personally. I know a few. Not one of them is a raving right wing Thatcherist lunatic, None are mean, rude, bully's, arrogant.

In fact most BTl'ers I know are either retired or work normal jobs and bought into the idea for financial security. None of them brag (anymore anyway). None of them are evil. They saw opportunity and went with it. They didnt understand the problems its had for FTB'ers, It wasnt malicious.

We have to except that BTl, as long as you didnt jump in with 100% mortgages in 2006/7, Have been excellent financial moves and continue to be so. I'm afraid thats not going to change soon either. The idea that BTL'ers are writhing in there own miss fortune is total rubbish. The ones i know are as happy as ever. Yes, there are some who are squirming. Just like SOME homeowners are squirming. Just like SOME savers are squirming. Just like lets face it, were all squirming over missing the boat all those years ago.

Some may have other experiences of BTL'ers but I think if were honest we'd agree most are just like you and I?

I just had to respond to this bit of BTL dissemination. It's the old Nuremburg defence. Much as I hate to use it, the lessons from Nazi Germany teach us that the majority of people involved in the worst atrocities were regular people. They were not "insane" and they were not "monsters", they were merely looking out for themselves and trying to secure there long term future. My friends and family contain many BTLers and I can assure you, like most people in this country they are "right wing", unless of course their investments go sour in which case they want the government to step in.

The UK is right of centre in it's politics with Margaret Thatcher being espoused as the mother of modern Britain. In reality Maggie and her Conservative government of the 80's would be seen as too left wing to get into power these days. Homeowners and in particular BTLers seem relaxed about their future because they see a government and banking system that will stop at nothing to preserve their wealth and position of power. This is of course an illusion. The only boat that has been missed is the RMS Titanic.

I could have become a BTLer myself but unfortunately I have a conscience and I see the scam for what it is, a pyramid scheme. We will all be caught in the ramifications of this scheme, which is the complete destruction of our "monetary" system. I don't worry about "owning" a house, I could buy one tomorrow if I wanted, but the reality is it is now irrelevant as is my pension, investments, and my job.

They are like you and me, that is how I can understand them.

Everything is going to change soon as without "sound" money, trade is difficult if not impossible, pyramid schemes always end the same way, and our current monetary system is the biggest scam ever perpetrated.

The article is funny because it captures the essense of BTL, if you laugh it is because you recognise the truth wrapped in a cartoon format.

As for PFI, brilliant!!

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Humurous but a load of rubbish to be honest.

Lets all think about the BTL's we know personally. I know a few. Not one of them is a raving right wing Thatcherist lunatic, None are mean, rude, bully's, arrogant.

In fact most BTl'ers I know are either retired or work normal jobs and bought into the idea for financial security. None of them brag (anymore anyway). None of them are evil. They saw opportunity and went with it. They didnt understand the problems its had for FTB'ers, It wasnt malicious.

We have to except that BTl, as long as you didnt jump in with 100% mortgages in 2006/7, Have been excellent financial moves and continue to be so. I'm afraid thats not going to change soon either. The idea that BTL'ers are writhing in there own miss fortune is total rubbish. The ones i know are as happy as ever. Yes, there are some who are squirming. Just like SOME homeowners are squirming. Just like SOME savers are squirming. Just like lets face it, were all squirming over missing the boat all those years ago.

Some may have other experiences of BTL'ers but I think if were honest we'd agree most are just like you and I?

I enjoyed reading that satire, I really sympathise, BUT

Yet another excuse to bash the grey-top 'boomers'.

I fully support a buyers strike, etc. to address the difficulties of the younger generations.

We are 61 and 59 years old, with no UK property, but our 2 offspring own 6 UK properties between them!!!!!!!!!!!

You will never convince me (far to cautious at our age) that my generation are responsible for BTL (I do agree about the Wilson's though) greed, from my experience the blame lies with ALL generations, not solely my generation!

Awaiting another flaming, due only for being the age I am. :angry: :angry:

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If you show me a BLTler who supports housing benefit reduction, credit tightening, tax to discourage second home ownership, relaxation of planing regs, reasonable interest rates etc etc infact sustainable housing policies in general then I'll accept that they arnt a complete selfish ****

I know of at least one that fits all those. But yes, people do want to look after there investments so there wont be many your right.

You just don't get it - do you?

I suggest you start frequenting this site for majority of your reading

http://www.bbc.co.uk/cbeebies/

Golden. Excellent. Well done big man.

I just had to respond to this bit of BTL dissemination. It's the old Nuremburg defence. Much as I hate to use it, the lessons from Nazi Germany teach us that the majority of people involved in the worst atrocities were regular people. They were not "insane" and they were not "monsters", they were merely looking out for themselves and trying to secure there long term future. My friends and family contain many BTLers and I can assure you, like most people in this country they are "right wing", unless of course their investments go sour in which case they want the government to step in.

The UK is right of centre in it's politics with Margaret Thatcher being espoused as the mother of modern Britain. In reality Maggie and her Conservative government of the 80's would be seen as too left wing to get into power these days. Homeowners and in particular BTLers seem relaxed about their future because they see a government and banking system that will stop at nothing to preserve their wealth and position of power. This is of course an illusion. The only boat that has been missed is the RMS Titanic.

I could have become a BTLer myself but unfortunately I have a conscience and I see the scam for what it is, a pyramid scheme. We will all be caught in the ramifications of this scheme, which is the complete destruction of our "monetary" system. I don't worry about "owning" a house, I could buy one tomorrow if I wanted, but the reality is it is now irrelevant as is my pension, investments, and my job.

They are like you and me, that is how I can understand them.

Everything is going to change soon as without "sound" money, trade is difficult if not impossible, pyramid schemes always end the same way, and our current monetary system is the biggest scam ever perpetrated.

The article is funny because it captures the essense of BTL, if you laugh it is because you recognise the truth wrapped in a cartoon format.

As for PFI, brilliant!!

Its a good post but if you hate to use the Nuremberg defence argument then please dont. I dont have to comment on the ludicrousness of comparing a BTLer with a Nazi so lets put that to bed ;)

Im barking at the wrong audience here clearly. I do agree with all your views on btlers and the wiki link was funny. But we cant blame the world and its problems on BTLers themselves.

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Not sure about right wing. Most just saw a gap in the market and were fed up with Gordon Brown stealing anything else they saved. Well, up until 2002 or so, then every moron and his dog started doing it .

I wouldn't really have minded if they were cash buyers TBH. Although, fundamentally I'd prefer the property to be owned by the people who live or run businesses there. I'm not entirely sure about right-wing (well certainly not genuine small c conservative). I've come across nurses and teachers with BTLs.

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When we're a bit further down the track either Ar5ehole Kaletsky or Will Hutton will publish an identical article, minus the humour, and be applauded by the usual f*ckwits for their great insight.

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I wouldn't really have minded if they were cash buyers TBH.

I don't mind being bent over a barrel by gangs of useless fvcknuts so long as they have wavy hair and don't use diners cards

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I know of at least one that fits all those. But yes, people do want to look after there investments so there wont be many your right.

Golden. Excellent. Well done big man.

Its a good post but if you hate to use the Nuremberg defence argument then please dont. I dont have to comment on the ludicrousness of comparing a BTLer with a Nazi so lets put that to bed ;)

Im barking at the wrong audience here clearly. I do agree with all your views on btlers and the wiki link was funny. But we cant blame the world and its problems on BTLers themselves.

And that's why I don't like to use it because people are simply incapable of understanding what actually happened and the lessons learned. No-one in Nazi Germany was responsible for anything because everyone was in on it, therefore no-one was to blame. This is exactly where we are today. Everyone is just doing their bit, looking after themselves and if in the process causes genocide or HPI, then so be it. No-one will be responsible. Although Nazi Germany was simply the inevitable result of deficit financing by the Weimar Republic. Again, in the Weimar Republic everyone went along with the Ponzi Scheme so everyone was responsible, but no-one was to blame.

Big bad monsters with black hats, terrible haircuts, and moustaches don't destroy countries, regular people do. If you prefer we could use Rwanda, the former Yugoslavia, Afghanistan, Iraq, Haiti, the list the endless, and the point remains the same, regular people are capable of anything. Ramping house prices is small beer really, wait till things get interesting. Everyone and no-one is responsible, that is the genius of the current system.

But you are right, in modern industrial society, no-one is responsible for anything because everyone has only a tiny part to play. BTLers have no blame because they are simply part of the system

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I don't mind being bent over a barrel by gangs of useless fvcknuts so long as they have wavy hair and don't use diners cards

Not keen still really but I do sort of think there ought to be secure investment alternatives for retirement nest-eggs to deposit accounts or equities based pension/investment products.

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Not keen still really but I do sort of think there ought to be secure investment alternatives for retirement nest-eggs to deposit accounts or equities based pension/investment products.

If the economy were not entirely distorted by real estate 'investment', there probably would be

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