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Any horror stories about any particular firms?

How to do it without being TOTALLY out of pocket.unsure.gif

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They're a rip off. No idea how any of these firms stay in business. Are there really that many people prepared to pay £10,000+ for a new kitchen (and how?)?

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I worked for Moben for 5 days....during the 1980s

Had to leave, couldnt do the lying.

eg, 3M 40mm worktop, same as everyone elses, £10 per 10cm...., thats £100 per metre....was about £40 for 3m from anywhere else.

course, that meant you could give 50% off and give the FREE appliances....and still make a huge profit...I knew guys who earned £600 per sale...

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Any horror stories about any particular firms?

How to do it without being TOTALLY out of pocket.unsure.gif

Either do it yourself, its easy. Or, employ a couple of local kitchen fitters to do the job. Avoid the "famous" names because you will pay at least double the cost of the local men. Most kitchen fitters can do every job that needs to be done ie electrics ,plumbing , floor and wall tiling . They also have the jigs and routers to give a really neat finish.

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Either do it yourself, its easy. Or, employ a couple of local kitchen fitters to do the job. Avoid the "famous" names because you will pay at least double the cost of the local men. Most kitchen fitters can do every job that needs to be done ie electrics ,plumbing , floor and wall tiling . They also have the jigs and routers to give a really neat finish.

That's spot on and it's what I've just done.

A builder mate got my units from Howdens, though B&Q have some massive discounts at present on individual carcasses and doors.

If you've got any kind of DIY ability then you should be able to do the planning, painting, tiling fitting carcasses. Speedfit pipe makes plumbing easy enough if it's just a case of swapping a sink etc. That's push-fit joints and plastic pipes, then plastic-weld waste pipes. You just need to make sure that the existing copper pipe earth bonding is continued.

You might need an electrician if you're unsure, as that's the one thing that will kill you.

I got a couple of chippys in for a day to help with the units and joint the worktops.

A good mate, who's a gas qualified plumber connected the cooker, moved a radiator for me and also skimmed a wall that needed plastering. (As mentioned, lots of these guys are pretty handy at other trades).

Total cost for my kitchen, which is huge, was about £3k for the units and cooker, £450 total for walls and floor tiles, £600 for some labour and a couple of hundred for a new fridge (eBay).

With bits and bobs it will be about £5k for a kitchen that would undoubtedly have cost £8k minimum if installed by a specialist company. And I've got a better job.

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Thanks lads! I was starting to think along these lines myself - ie. getting local tradesmen in and cutting out the middle man. I did this - years ago - when I lived up North. I chose - and ordered - every piece of timber, carcass, handles, hinges, doors, electrical applicances etc. and got an independent kitchen fitter to do it.

Here in Devon it is a different ball game. I don't know enough tradesmen in all fields to be able to do this, and asking one's neighbours to recommendohmy.gif ......... well I don't want to be funny, but some of them would not know a botched job from a good one, as evidenced by a recommended bloke who cost me as much again, to put right what he botched.mad.gif

Also, of the lads I know who collectively might agree do it - an electrician, a joiner, a plumber etc. getting them together for one job is a tall order, exacerbated by the fact that everyone is rushing to renew their kitchens etc. due to VAT going up in January. Already most of these lads are 'booked' until November and after, and have been for at least 6 weeks.sad.gif

I would not mind so much, but this kitchen is at LEAST 20 years old!!! It REALLY needs a facelift.

If ONLY they had not decided to put up VAT in January. I'd not be fighting to get someone in.

It should prove interesting next year, when the 20% VAT kicks in. These kitchen/bathroom/bedroom firms are going to be going t*ts up, unless they severely cut their costs, to counteract extra VAT.

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It's not that difficult to put kitchen things in if you live near Wickes!

I don't know how some of these kitchen firms can justify their prices.

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Howdens joinery. All base and wall units supplied constructed just need the doors, drawers, shelves fixing.Then get a competent joiner to fit.

By far the best value for money. Forget buying from tv and newspaper/magazine ads. And dont touch any of the clearence -70% ads you see, you will end up with a huge headache and out of pocket.

Source your own appliances aswell.

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Howdens joinery. All base and wall units supplied constructed just need the doors, drawers, shelves fixing.Then get a competent joiner to fit.

By far the best value for money. Forget buying from tv and newspaper/magazine ads. And dont touch any of the clearence -70% ads you see, you will end up with a huge headache and out of pocket.

Source your own appliances aswell.

Always do!biggrin.gif

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It's not that difficult to put kitchen things in if you live near Wickes!

I don't know how some of these kitchen firms can justify their prices.

its not chipboard...is it...Its PARTICLEBOARD init!

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its not chipboard...is it...Its PARTICLEBOARD init!

God no! I want a proper kitchen with tiles and mangles.

Something Mr Dibnah would be proud to restore :blink:

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Couple of things I forgot.

Get decent soft-close door hinges. The good ones are about £3 each but they have soft close pistons and just clip on and off. When you're fitting a kitchen the ability to quickly remove and replace doors is a big plus. The better Howdens kitchens are supplied with such hinges.

You only need one soft-close piston on each door though, otherwise it will close too slowly and possibly not at all.

The other thing is drawers from Howdens. They supply drawer boxes flat packed but it's only a 5 min job to assemble them. Then you just bung the front on and you're done.

Screw the rails to the carcass and drop the drawer into place. It feel a bit odd as it grips into place but once it's done they work beautiifully. They also have loads of adjustments to linbe verything up. (As do the hinges as mentioned above).

Finally, make sure Howdens don't sell you tons more stuff than you need. I ended up with twice as much plinth as I needed.

Oh, another one. You'll be needing decor end panels. They're expensive at about £40 a pop, and you don't necessarily need as many as they try to sell you. Exposed ends will need one, but you can cut them in half for when you need them in between units. Your chippy will understand this so have a chat with them.

Ooops, yet another one. Take your time with tiling. Spend ages measuring so that you don't get thin bits.

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