LetsGetReadyToTumble Posted September 9, 2010 Report Share Posted September 9, 2010 (edited) Farrange is just an ignorant shouty idiot He's an embarrassment to anyone proud to be British He's one of the few remaining who stick up for democracy, a system that seems to be going out of fashion. The man has integrity, something British politics severely lacks. He tries to be honourable. The government for the last 13 years has been so dishonourable, we have falsely begun to believe that this is the norm. Edited September 9, 2010 by LetsGetReadyToTumble Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Big Orange Posted September 9, 2010 Report Share Posted September 9, 2010 (edited) UKIP are bad news and Farage is a red faced bully, they seem to be little better than the BNP, UKIP and their supporters seem to have an acute persecution complex like the US Teabaggers, I feel like a mug that I voted for these clowns as flawed and hard to understand as the EU is, the Euro was just poorly thought through and wage serfs from Poland didn't work but that's no excuse for rampant, foaming at the mouth nationalism, and it doesn't take much for an antique plane to crash. Edited September 9, 2010 by Big Orange Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Number79 Posted September 9, 2010 Report Share Posted September 9, 2010 UKIP are bad news and Farage is a red faced bully, they seem to be little better than the BNP, UKIP and their supporters seem to have an acute persecution complex like the US Teabaggers, I feel like a mug that I voted for these clowns as flawed and hard to understand as the EU is, the Euro was just poorly thought through and wage serfs from Poland didn't work but that's no excuse for rampant, foaming at the mouth nationalism, and it doesn't take much for an antique plane to crash. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
okaycuckoo Posted September 9, 2010 Report Share Posted September 9, 2010 The only decision Blair and Brown made that will ease the UK's pain amongst the mess they created since 1997 was they did not take us into the Euro. Be grateful for small mercies. Interesting question. I don't believe £ can survive with the jaw-dropping debt this country carries. But the € doesn't want us. Conundrum. Eurozone has on balance more strength than weakness compared to the UK. € will contract, adapt and provide better security. $ will be currency king once Obama gets shafted in November. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Britney's Piers Posted September 9, 2010 Report Share Posted September 9, 2010 I hope he doesn't like hill walking, and watches out for white fiats when going through the pont d l'alma tunnel. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
EUBanana Posted September 9, 2010 Report Share Posted September 9, 2010 rampant, foaming at the mouth nationalism It's the Europhiles who display that behaviour, it seems to me. If you're looking for true fanaticism, look at them. And they have no mandate for what they are doing. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Johnny Storm Posted September 9, 2010 Report Share Posted September 9, 2010 And me And me. I hate this country and what is has become, and also a lot of the people. But back on topic, what gets me most about those vids is the smug smirk on the faces of the people who Nigel challenges with the truth. People always get what they deserve, and for the vast majority of people in England and probably Europe, this is it. Now how to escape......... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
200p Posted September 9, 2010 Report Share Posted September 9, 2010 The public aren't interested as long as the candy keeps flowing. Take away the candy (or run out of money ala Greece, Iceland) and the people will become become angry with Farage as a wake up call. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
exiges Posted September 9, 2010 Report Share Posted September 9, 2010 If any Farrage detractors can direct me to anything he's said that's not been right I'd be very interested to see it. For me, he's a sole voice of reason in a sea of bureaucrats out to line their own pockets. The European union is the very antithesis of democracy.. repeatedly asking countries if they want to join up.. If they say "no", just ask them again.. and again. The way this country was stitched up over the Lisburn Treaty, how the Labour government allowed it to happen and how little press coverage it got was a national disgrace.. but hey, at least Leona won X-Factor right ? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
R K Posted September 9, 2010 Report Share Posted September 9, 2010 'goes nuts' ? I thought he was rather measured. Barosso spouted a right old pile of sh1te though. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
fluffy666 Posted September 9, 2010 Report Share Posted September 9, 2010 If any Farrage detractors can direct me to anything he's said that's not been right I'd be very interested to see it. For me, he's a sole voice of reason in a sea of bureaucrats out to line their own pockets. The European union is the very antithesis of democracy.. repeatedly asking countries if they want to join up.. If they say "no", just ask them again.. and again. The way this country was stitched up over the Lisburn Treaty, how the Labour government allowed it to happen and how little press coverage it got was a national disgrace.. but hey, at least Leona won X-Factor right ? The problem I have is that I'm inclined to be pro-european; but the whole project has gone very wrong. Enlargement has been too fast; there is too little transparency and democracy; and rules are not properly applied. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Francisco Pizarro Posted September 9, 2010 Report Share Posted September 9, 2010 Being English I am so proud that the World chose my Language to be the International Language. Unfortunately the majority of Countries decided to drive on the wrong side of the road, did they do this simply to have a pop at us. I was told that sticking to the left hand side of the road was so that people could fight using a sword in their dominant (right) hand. The French, for no other reason than to spite the British decided on traffic being on the right hand side of the road. That was the origin. British = Sensible, French = pig headed. Later it was a case of protectionism. One nations car manufacturers had to retool parts of their industry if they wished to export their cars to a nation who drove on the other side of the road. Being raised on the metric system Imperial measurements confounded me. It wasn't until the theory and origin of them that I learned a great deal of respect for it. Its not perfect that's for sure but nor is metric with its base 10 number system. I mean, what's 1/4 of 10? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
EUBanana Posted September 9, 2010 Report Share Posted September 9, 2010 The problem I have is that I'm inclined to be pro-european; but the whole project has gone very wrong. Enlargement has been too fast; there is too little transparency and democracy; and rules are not properly applied. Problem is that that is by design, it's not an accident that just happened to end up that way. The Europhiles themselves even admit it, this is not secret NWO garbage. Google up "Monnet Method" and read the europhiles own documents from their own websites. I couldn't really care less about imperial measurements and queens heads on our coins. They have harps on the euro coins in Ireland, I'm sure they would have queens heads on euro coins here. That isn't the point. The point is freedom and democracy, to borrow Farage, or the lack of it. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Zngland Posted September 9, 2010 Report Share Posted September 9, 2010 Farrange is just an ignorant shouty idiot He's an embarrassment to anyone proud to be British Why? He wants to see a referendum as promised. What's more British then that? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Zngland Posted September 9, 2010 Report Share Posted September 9, 2010 Have you actually met any EU migrants? The ones I have think we're nuts for letting everyone over here and then handing out free money to anyone with a kid. They know we're wrecking our country and when it's been hollowed out from the inside they'll move on to the next welcoming socialist paradise. Heck, i'll probably be joining them, because this place is going to be a real dump in 10-20 years time if we don't remember where our backbone is. Exactly , i'm totally against the EU simply because it just becomes a self serving entity sucking wealth from everywhere. A Welfare State for countries where the "players" have ample skimming opportunities. To your point if the UK goes "Pete Tong" then ironically maybe the belonging to the EU will be the best of the $hit options available. I'm thinking in the [low] possibility of the £ crashing if we fail to re-adjust our economy. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Pindar Posted September 9, 2010 Report Share Posted September 9, 2010 Since when has speaking the truth been synonymous with "going nuts"? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Alan B'Stard MP Posted September 9, 2010 Report Share Posted September 9, 2010 The problem I have is that I'm inclined to be pro-european; but the whole project has gone very wrong. Enlargement has been too fast; there is too little transparency and democracy; and rules are not properly applied. Then you can only cheer Farage. What he says is unimportant - just the fact he says it. Lets not walk blindly from ambivalent consensus into our futures. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Pindar Posted September 9, 2010 Report Share Posted September 9, 2010 OFC it has nothing to do with the fact that the Tories conspired for decades to impose their neo-liberal squalor on the UK and the rest of Europe through the EEC and later "EU". Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Alan B'Stard MP Posted September 9, 2010 Report Share Posted September 9, 2010 OFC it has nothing to do with the fact that the Tories conspired for decades to impose their neo-liberal squalor on the UK and the rest of Europe through the EEC and later "EU". Your post is covered in coal dust. Wipe yourself down before you enter HPC, thanks. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
nixy Posted September 9, 2010 Report Share Posted September 9, 2010 Farrange is just an ignorant shouty idiot He's an embarrassment to anyone proud to be British Oh, the irony. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Pindar Posted September 9, 2010 Report Share Posted September 9, 2010 Your post is covered in coal dust. Wipe yourself down before you enter HPC, thanks. Yours is covered in prostitute secretions and white powder. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Alan B'Stard MP Posted September 9, 2010 Report Share Posted September 9, 2010 Yours is covered in prostitute secretions and white powder. It's hard to wipe off with handy-andys. HPC should have a VIP bathroom for the likes of me. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
billybong Posted September 9, 2010 Report Share Posted September 9, 2010 (edited) A referendum was promised in writing and that promise was reneged on. That is the level of democracy. Pretty close to zero. Edited September 9, 2010 by billybong Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Tiger Woods? Posted September 9, 2010 Report Share Posted September 9, 2010 The problem I have is that I'm inclined to be pro-european; but the whole project has gone very wrong. Enlargement has been too fast; there is too little transparency and democracy; and rules are not properly applied. The difference between theory and practice. I'm inclined to be in favour of benign dictatorships in theory, but not in practice. I'm in favour of socialism in theory, but not in practice etc. Lots of ideas are great until venal humans get involved. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Alan B'Stard MP Posted September 9, 2010 Report Share Posted September 9, 2010 The difference between theory and practice. I'm inclined to be in favour of benign dictatorships in theory, but not in practice. I'm in favour of socialism in theory, but not in practice etc. Lots of ideas are great until venal humans get involved. A good rule of thumb is to not go with any political philosophy where its name has been made up after its ideals have been implemented. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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