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http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/jobs/7983206/Job-vacancy-decline-knocks-confidence.html

Industries including engineering, manufacturing, financial services, training and IT all suffered a drop in the number of jobs available in August compared with July, according to the Reed Jobs Index.

Training was one of the worst hit sectors, falling from 84 in July to 64 last month, on a scale in which 100 is the base. Demand for jobs in the engineering sector fell to 86 in August, down from 91 the previous month. Anything above 100 represents an increase.

The number of jobs available in the financial services sector – which has recently enjoyed a boom in vacancies – slowed to 113 last month, down three points from July's record high. Manufacturing jobs also dipped from 116 down to 111 over the same period.

Other sectors that experienced decline included energy, hospitality, sales and media, the index showed. Public sector jobs plummeted to a record low of 57.

Martin Warnes, managing director of Reed, the recruitment firm, said: "Both financial services and manufacturing jobs have fallen back from last month's highs, while sectors such as engineering and training continue to see steady declines, demonstrating continued nervousness in the private sector economy."

However, Mr Warnes said the overall job index had held steady over the holiday season, at 102 in August, which is "quietly encouraging news for the economy as a whole". Some sectors, including admin, legal and security, had experienced healthy growth in job vacancies.

Thank god Christmas is approaching should loads of temps jobs coming up.

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Thank god Christmas is approaching should loads of temps jobs coming up.

Until we just get on and deal with the debt head on, it will dribble on in tis depressing way. Much better to just have the pain and get over it more quickly. The cuts and pressure on employment is going to be hard.

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Reed?

Reed is one of the scummiest agencies around, the number of fake jobs they put up is staggering. Their own systems betray this, you can put a reed search in which emails you new jobs. I have it put on everything and get a new job advert every 4 days.

You look around looks like a ton of jobs but there aren't, as you get no new job emails and the jobs that are on there have just had the dates changed since 2007 (some even further back) and the applicant counts reset to zero.

Dig a tiny bit deeper with simple things like linkedIn and you can often find 2-5 agencies run by the same people. Stark Brookes for instance is the same as search same as get recruited etc.

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Reed is one of the scummiest agencies around, the number of fake jobs they put up is staggering. Their own systems betray this, you can put a reed search in which emails you new jobs. I have it put on everything and get a new job advert every 4 days.

You look around looks like a ton of jobs but there aren't, as you get no new job emails and the jobs that are on there have just had the dates changed since 2007 (some even further back) and the applicant counts reset to zero.

Dig a tiny bit deeper with simple things like linkedIn and you can often find 2-5 agencies run by the same people. Stark Brookes for instance is the same as search same as get recruited etc.

Most recruitment agencies put up the adverts themselves on Reed, Reed don't necessarily vet them all. I used to put up adverts there myself and I can see why someone might want to put up some fakies to harvets candidates. I didn't do it myself as I didn't have any jobs going anyway and didn't want to piss people off explaining the job was gone / they didn't get it.

Had my own little specialised recruitment business as a pet project but all of the sudden in 2007-2008 no new requests from businesess. No idea why. Something to do with a recession I think.

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Most recruitment agencies put up the adverts themselves on Reed, Reed don't necessarily vet them all. I used to put up adverts there myself and I can see why someone might want to put up some fakies to harvets candidates. I didn't do it myself as I didn't have any jobs going anyway and didn't want to piss people off explaining the job was gone / they didn't get it.

Had my own little specialised recruitment business as a pet project but all of the sudden in 2007-2008 no new requests from businesess. No idea why. Something to do with a recession I think.

Friend of mine in London had a one man band recruitment company. A "headhunter" type I think. Anyway he's going through hard times, got rid of the office,works from home. Also he managed to get himself into BTL too, which isn't doing so well either.

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Reed is one of the scummiest agencies around, the number of fake jobs they put up is staggering. Their own systems betray this, you can put a reed search in which emails you new jobs. I have it put on everything and get a new job advert every 4 days.

You look around looks like a ton of jobs but there aren't, as you get no new job emails and the jobs that are on there have just had the dates changed since 2007 (some even further back) and the applicant counts reset to zero.

Dig a tiny bit deeper with simple things like linkedIn and you can often find 2-5 agencies run by the same people. Stark Brookes for instance is the same as search same as get recruited etc.

Why do they do this? I am subscribed to a job site that is all recruiters and the jobs just seem fake.

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Why do they do this? I am subscribed to a job site that is all recruiters and the jobs just seem fake.

To get email addresses and CVs from good candidates even though they don't actually have a job to offer them. Different people look at jobs at different times, and if you are a recruiter you may have a bigger chance of finding the right person the more CVs you have.

Secondly, most people are registered with several recruitment agencies, so this will increase your own recruitment agency's chance to get that person to the client before the other agency...supposedly. Or it will just piss off the good candidates when the recruitment agency says there's no job for you :)

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Most recruitment agencies put up the adverts themselves on Reed, Reed don't necessarily vet them all. I used to put up adverts there myself and I can see why someone might want to put up some fakies to harvets candidates. I didn't do it myself as I didn't have any jobs going anyway and didn't want to piss people off explaining the job was gone / they didn't get it.

Had my own little specialised recruitment business as a pet project but all of the sudden in 2007-2008 no new requests from businesess. No idea why. Something to do with a recession I think.

This sort of deception seems all part of the new reality alongside their scumbag Estate Agent mates who they share the high street retailer space with. These leaches make money off the backs of others and during the worst of times. They can't be considered a friend of the job hunter they simply want to get you doing any job for peanuts. When the revolution comes I sincerely hope job agencies are done away with and people move to the internet to find work or find employees. Seriously though these modern slavers can make up to £10 an hour on the backs of others. The scandal is that people so readily accept it.

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Why do they do this? I am subscribed to a job site that is all recruiters and the jobs just seem fake.

So they can get you doing something you didn't quite envisage because there are 'no jobs out there..'

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This sort of deception seems all part of the new reality alongside their scumbag Estate Agent mates who they share the high street retailer space with. These leaches make money off the backs of others and during the worst of times. They can't be considered a friend of the job hunter they simply want to get you doing any job for peanuts. When the revolution comes I sincerely hope job agencies are done away with and people move to the internet to find work or find employees. Seriously though these modern slavers can make up to £10 an hour on the backs of others. The scandal is that people so readily accept it.

Running a recruitment agency is a piece of pish. That's why I set one up myself, a website and voila.

There is however a slight interest in getting the salary as high as possible for the recruitment agency as most contracts are based on a % of the annual salary. So the higher the salary the more commission for the recruitment consultant.

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This sort of deception seems all part of the new reality alongside their scumbag Estate Agent mates who they share the high street retailer space with. These leaches make money off the backs of others and during the worst of times. They can't be considered a friend of the job hunter they simply want to get you doing any job for peanuts. When the revolution comes I sincerely hope job agencies are done away with and people move to the internet to find work or find employees. Seriously though these modern slavers can make up to £10 an hour on the backs of others. The scandal is that people so readily accept it.

Recruitment agencies are not to be trusted IMHO. They are interested in targets and commission ... that's all! Adverts for "Recruitment Specialists" are always the same:

We are seeking a money motivated individual!
You must be MONEY HUNGRY
Naturally, you will have experience in Recruitment or SALES
.

They are very similar to their EA cousins ;)

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This sort of deception seems all part of the new reality alongside their scumbag Estate Agent mates who they share the high street retailer space with. These leaches make money off the backs of others and during the worst of times. They can't be considered a friend of the job hunter they simply want to get you doing any job for peanuts. When the revolution comes I sincerely hope job agencies are done away with and people move to the internet to find work or find employees. Seriously though these modern slavers can make up to £10 an hour on the backs of others. The scandal is that people so readily accept it.

Yeah they make money off the backs of others - but they still have to pay a market rate , advertise it, compete against other agencies- and anyway do contract rates are usually more than permanent staff rates.

Making money off the backs off others - doesn't every business do this?

What always I find strange - is that employers use contractors for years - paying recruitment agencies there fees month in month out and sometimes offer them a staff position.

While they are always complaining about how much contractors or temps cost them - but they do nothing to incentivise them or offer them a staff positions - costing them much less.

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