MrB Posted September 1, 2010 Report Share Posted September 1, 2010 Estate Agent parlance. Is anything that isn't 'fitted' mean in flat packs, waiting for the tenant/homowner to fit? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Authoritarian Posted September 1, 2010 Report Share Posted September 1, 2010 Also, what does the term 'built from the ground up' mean? Am I supposed to grateful that the builders have used gravity to their advantage and decided against building from the roof down. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Mal Volio Posted September 1, 2010 Report Share Posted September 1, 2010 "Fitted" as opposed to free-standing units Means that they won't take it with them when they go (probably) Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mon-keyhanger Posted September 1, 2010 Report Share Posted September 1, 2010 Estate Agent parlance. Is anything that isn't 'fitted' mean in flat packs, waiting for the tenant/homowner to fit? See your point. In a way. Though,fitted refers to the units being unmovable. They need, of course, to be assembled and fitted in the spots you are going to leave them in. Possibly better to call them 'fixed' kitchens. This would be of a negative flavour to some. The marketing boys and girls had to push them as bespoken from 60's onward. BUT- are you old enough to remember when we had kitchen furniture. We moved the kitchen about (if we had the space). Maybe the oven , if gas, was the only item 'fitted'- plus the sink of course. Even a new fangled electric oven couldn't be moved too far away from the power source. Sooooo apart from the oven everything else could wander about at the owners whim. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Number79 Posted September 1, 2010 Report Share Posted September 1, 2010 "Fitted" as opposed to free-standing units Means that they won't take it with them when they go (probably) probably the case although that 'definition' of fitted does not stand up in Germany. When they sell/move then the kitchen goes with them, 'fitted' or not. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
AteMoose Posted September 1, 2010 Report Share Posted September 1, 2010 (edited) If you buy a farmhouse, or an old cottage that hasnt been revovated the kitchen wont be fitted.... The owner has sideboards and cupboards for storing stuff in... Edited September 1, 2010 by AteMoose Quote Link to post Share on other sites
CHF Posted September 1, 2010 Report Share Posted September 1, 2010 If you buy a farmhouse, or an old cottage that hasnt been revovated the kitchen wont be fitted.... Perhaps not. But it will have a 'quaint rustic charm' Quote Link to post Share on other sites
MrB Posted September 1, 2010 Author Report Share Posted September 1, 2010 you mean s***e indeed Seems, the boffins have looked into estage agent lexicon in some detail. These experts "employed fractional logit regression methods to help us investigate our hypotheses in a multiple-causation estimation framework." and came up with a few jokes: http://eprints.gla.ac.uk/30522/1/30522.pdf Benefits From: Contains a feature you may expect to be the bare minimum for the extraordinary price you are paying. Example: "Benefits from roof, floors, walls". In Need of Modernisation: In need of demolition. etc.... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Cogs Posted September 1, 2010 Report Share Posted September 1, 2010 (edited) Sized and shaped for a specific space. Its a sort of weak way of saying 'made to measure', more like 'modified to measure'. A fitted suit is a normal off the peg suit with some adjustments done for example. We also nearly all have 'fitted carpets'. You see a non-fitted carpet so rarely now the phrase has gone out of use, but people used to get approximately sized bits of carpets and around the edges you'd have exposed floorboards (you still see this in stately homes I think). Edited September 1, 2010 by Cogs Quote Link to post Share on other sites
billybong Posted September 1, 2010 Report Share Posted September 1, 2010 (edited) "Fitted" means putting in far more units than necessary. Put in as many as you can to fit into the space available. A form of job creation for unit manufacturers and installers etc mainly for the Mrs to keep up with the Joneses "Built from the ground up" is builders trying to make normal humdrum methods sound special and ingenious and yet solid and reliable. Really a bit of taking the michael. Now if they claimed "built using sky hooks" then that would be really something if true Marketing eh but lots of people seem very willing to be taken in every time. "Wow!! built from the ground up, must have it. I'll bet the Joneses kitchen wasn't built from the ground up" Edited September 1, 2010 by billybong Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Bloo Loo Posted September 2, 2010 Report Share Posted September 2, 2010 Melamine, chipboard and Formica...bootiful. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
SarahBell Posted September 2, 2010 Report Share Posted September 2, 2010 Estate Agent parlance. Is anything that isn't 'fitted' mean in flat packs, waiting for the tenant/homowner to fit? Fiited means freestanding units. As kirsty would say "If you can put your hand behind it it's probably not staying" One to watch in older houses where all cupboards might well be freestanding and you'll move in and only have a sink. (Agas move too) Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Pauly_Boy Posted September 2, 2010 Report Share Posted September 2, 2010 Why Are Kitchens 'fitted' I thought you said Kittens for a second! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
LivingWithTheInlaws Posted September 2, 2010 Report Share Posted September 2, 2010 A few years ago we installed a new kitchen and found free standing units available. It may even have been in Next home stores. The USP was that you could rearrange your kitchen. Each unit was the usual 600mm wide (appliance sized). Quite useful in a smaller/older kitchen where there's no need to have a long worktop. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
hedgefunded Posted September 2, 2010 Report Share Posted September 2, 2010 I don't have a problem with the term. Fitted to my mind means 'fixed and staying'. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
tim123 Posted September 2, 2010 Report Share Posted September 2, 2010 See your point. In a way. Though,fitted refers to the units being unmovable. They need, of course, to be assembled and fitted in the spots you are going to leave them in. Possibly better to call them 'fixed' kitchens. This would be of a negative flavour to some. The marketing boys and girls had to push them as bespoken from 60's onward. BUT- are you old enough to remember when we had kitchen furniture. We moved the kitchen about (if we had the space). Maybe the oven , if gas, was the only item 'fitted'- plus the sink of course. Even a new fangled electric oven couldn't be moved too far away from the power source. Sooooo apart from the oven everything else could wander about at the owners whim. ITYF that the "original" type of stove found in kitchens was less movable than a modern (20th century) electric or gas one. The flipping great big brick chimney attached to it made it a somewhat fixed feature. tim Quote Link to post Share on other sites
tim123 Posted September 2, 2010 Report Share Posted September 2, 2010 Yes. Sold flat in Germany, frau-at-the-time says "shall we take the kitchen with us or sell it separately?" "Huh?" I replied. We sold it to the couple who'd just moved in above us. Even in (unfurnished) rental flats in Germany it is normal for the kitchen to belong to the tenant and not the LL (and unlike in the UK, fitting it to the wall doesn't make it a fixture). tim Quote Link to post Share on other sites
winkie Posted September 2, 2010 Report Share Posted September 2, 2010 What's wrong with a nice piece of solid wood on rustic bricks and a curtain as a cabinet door....you don't know what you are missing. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
MinceBalls Posted September 2, 2010 Report Share Posted September 2, 2010 Estate Agent parlance. Is anything that isn't 'fitted' mean in flat packs, waiting for the tenant/homowner to fit? Kitchens have often been freestanding units. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
lets get it right Posted September 2, 2010 Report Share Posted September 2, 2010 I've seen a kitchen that was not fitted. It comprised a worktop with a sink in it that sat on top of a 1000mm base unit. Waste was into a bucket and water connections were via hoses. Food was stored on a folding wallpaper pasting table. This kitchen was moved from room to room progressively as I renovated the last property I owned. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Austin Allegro Posted September 2, 2010 Report Share Posted September 2, 2010 Fitted kitchens are one of the best examples of planned obsolesence. Take the cheapest quality chipboard. Install it in such a way that it can't be moved or worked with as your needs change, and cover it with melamine which can't easily be painted. Hey presto, people need a new one every few years. A sign of how well everyone has fallen for it is the fact that non-fitted kitchens are marketed as being the preserve of the wealthy only - you can do it but only if you have an antique welsh dresser, aga, Belfast sink etc. :angry: Quote Link to post Share on other sites
TimG Posted September 2, 2010 Report Share Posted September 2, 2010 All professioal kitchens I have ever been in (or seen on telly) are as free standing as possible. The only fitted stuff tends to be the sinks and extractors. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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