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Ah shucks, thanks for thinking of me... that is so sweet...

To be honest, when I saw the thread title I assumed Balderick had got a comission from Channel 4 to make a property porn programme :blink:

Is this something I will understand in numpty language or is it in some kind of guru financial speak?

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He has quite a square masculine jaw doesn't he... which the goatee doesn't really hide...

I mean, if you had a jaw like that and you wanted to be a bird then the surgeon is going to have to do a lot of facial chiselling... I digress...

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Ah shucks, thanks for thinking of me... that is so sweet...

To be honest, when I saw the thread title I assumed Balderick had got a comission from Channel 4 to make a property porn programme :blink:

Is this something I will understand in numpty language or is it in some kind of guru financial speak?

It's plain english.

In summary he is saying he works with, in particular, one (unnamed) investor who made a billion from the '87 crash and others and is now warning people to consider the possibility of an imminent (in the next few months or so) equity crash and how you might protect yourself if that occurs.

He doesn't mention who he's 'channeling' - Babak at Trader's Narrative suspects Paul Tudor Jones, someone else in the blog comments suspects Prechter.

In any event it's seems to be aimed at the general investing population. What's odd about this is that just about everybody appears to now be talking in terms of a major equity crash going into Q3/4. This could be 'cause there may be one, or it could equally be 'cause certain people want everyone to believe there is going to be one. Sentiment herding if you like.

I'm just reposting for posterity...............

Edit: Never mind his square jaw, you're not having sex with him, you're just listening

Edited by Frank Sidebottom

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I think this guy is pretty big in the US with his motivational stuff... think I saw some of his stuff on an informercial when I was last out in the US... buy the CD kind of stuff...

Who is this Paul Tudor Jones guy?

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Who is he?

He is the new sidekick to Blackadder, in the new series of Blackadder.

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Blackadder - "So the Stockmarket I've invested all my money in, is about to crash, horribly"

Tony Robbins - "I have a cunning plan"

Oh, Tony Robinson.

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He is the new sidekick to Blackadder, in the new series of Blackadder.

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Blackadder - "So the Stockmarket I've invested all my money in, is about to crash, horribly"

Tony Robbins - "I have a cunning plan"

Oh, Tony Robinson.

Actually, what he is saying is that there are clear signs of a non recovery.

Boomers are at an age where they are now thinking of retirement....they stop spending and start saving....thats not good for the 70% of the US economy that us consumer spending.

In spite of low interest rates, demand for debt is falling...he says it hasnt fallen like this for 200 years.

so we have savers keeping their cash, and potential borrowers paying down rather than spending into the 70% of the US economy.

Then we have real estate.....in spite of lowest rates EVER...BANKS are selling more houses than Developers....theres a thought.

Due to the slow download, Ive got to the bit about the BANKS themselves.....stuck with foreclosures and keeping many behind so as not to flood the market even more, not making money on loans which are at 200 year lows, only making money on stocks and shadow banking ( the bit that failed in 2007 by the way).

He would be a poster in agreement with my own assessment of the situation it appears.

so far, no advice...as is par for Mr Robbins...just a view. back to the end of the film.

OK, not much in the last 30%, but DEBT, debt is the drug and now we are in detox.

Its winter, there will some sunny days, but bad ones too....prepare....If you know what you are doing, you can be successful....IF YOU DONT>>>>> he suggests just GET OUT...get liquid.

and lastly.....Work harder than your competition and ADD value to your offering.

This man could be me....apart from his millions that is....then again...he DOESNT have Mrs Loo.

Edited by Bloo Loo

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"Protect yourself" :o:ph34r:

What I took from this was

1) it's not his (TR) opinion - one of the market makers (not us plebs, or our 'investment advisers' or 'fund managers' who have no more clue than os) passed the information on, and TR is passing it on because:

a] he's such a sweet guy and he personally cares for YOU really (awww..)

b] he can make money on the courses that you will run to, having now panicked listing to his video

c] the market maker who told him will make even more money if everyone takes his advice and gets out of stocks, since the market maker has already placed his short positions, and uses TR to fire the trigger.

2) Don't just sell all your stocks (now!) / but find ways to short the stock market index without taking too much risk should it not happen.

3) When the crash happens, start buying shares on the way down, but don't just pile back into share indices indiscriminately.. carefully buy stocks or ETFs that buy shares in companies that do well in depressions.. food, fuel.. stuff that people NEED.

And don't buy stocks in discretionary spending stocks.. stuff that people WANT.. IPads, DIY stores. The 'NEED' stocks will bounce back massively after the bottom has been hit, and the 'WANT' shares will stay where they are.

So make a plan to do that.. do your stock selling now, buy short positions now, research 'NEED' stocks, and get ready to start buying.

Edited by sesim

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he's a good entertainer. One of my former employers sent me to one of his "seminars". Good move on him as I decided to change job immediately afterwards.

Some of the stuff is barely ok, and if you're into NLP this is the ABC stuff explained for thick people to understand.

However, I could not stand the delusional types I saw there, and even less the "walking on coals" bit.

The best book ever written on the subject is "Frog into Princes" by Bandler and Grinder.

I don't know what big Tony knows about the stock market himself, but he surely is in touch with a lot of the money makers. Make of that what you will.

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I thoroughly enjoyed this.

I understand that many on this board are cynics - but cynicism is a bit of a disease of the mind.

it's useful at times but if you think that TR is just there to flog his wares - think again.

His message is that you should educate yourself about economics and the current trends.

Would you have thought that Financial Planner was just talking down the market back in 2005 for his own personal benefit?

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I listened to the first 9 mins and the last 5 - he even mentions house prices.

It would have been an interesting video to listen to sometime around March 2009.

The only conclusion I can draw from what I listened to is that he has, I assume, some rich brokers as clients and he has overheard or been told stuff by them... which may or may not be interesting in itself.

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I think the most telling bit is where he said that contrary to the MSM barraging us with stuff like forcing the banks to increase lending, its not supply of credit, but demand of credit thats causing the low circulation of it.

Listening to R4 (iirc) the other day some guy on there said less than 1 in 6 businesses have actually approached banks for credit, banks issuing credit isnt the problem. Course, good old BBC promptly moved on to other, easier decieve, matters,

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I think the most telling bit is where he said that contrary to the MSM barraging us with stuff like forcing the banks to increase lending, its not supply of credit, but demand of credit thats causing the low circulation of it.

Listening to R4 (iirc) the other say some guy on there said less than 1 in 6 businesses have actually approached banks for credit, banks issuing credit isnt the problem. Course, good old BBC promptly moved on to other, easier decieve, matters,

Debt Saturation.

Everybody is already loaded up with the absolute maximum amount of debt that they can service, increasing lending will just tip them over the edge so they pay back non of it.

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He has quite a square masculine jaw doesn't he... which the goatee doesn't really hide...

I mean, if you had a jaw like that and you wanted to be a bird then the surgeon is going to have to do a lot of facial chiselling... I digress...

He's an acromegalic. Think Richard Kiel (Jaws in 007)

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Love the "I've got a plane to catch to Fiji :D [don't you wish you were me]" at the end.

Motive is tough to determine on this one. I'm not sure Paul Tudor Jones would approve of him bandying his name about like that, unless PTJ is trying to encourage sentiment change to come sooner through messages like this. The market should have a second leg down (many thought it had already started), but maybe PTJ fears that people are so stupid that they will keep the market propped up indefinitely... "It's winter FFS!"

First Tony Robbins product I've ever seen - thanks for posting. Whatever his motive, he seems to be a very smart and successful man.

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