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As an old Jeremy Brett fan, I can't make my mind up. Is the new Holmes a just a flouncing gurner, or a brilliant new take on a cultural icon?

They are arguing the toss on R5 right now...

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As an old Jeremy Brett fan, I can't make my mind up. Is the new Holmes a just a flouncing gurner, or a brilliant new take on a cultural icon?

They are arguing the toss on R5 right now...

It's excellent. :)

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As an old Jeremy Brett fan, I can't make my mind up. Is the new Holmes a just a flouncing gurner, or a brilliant new take on a cultural icon?

They are arguing the toss on R5 right now...

I bought the complete Jeremy Brett box set for my ma, recently borrowed it and have been working my way through such excellence. Having only watched the first 10 mins of the new one, i cannot truly judge, but find the late victorian setting of the series crucial.

I saw the recent film and found it a very shallow action movie.

There are some nice 80s interviews with Brett and

he did after the tv series .

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Like so many modern dramas - it's way too fast. There is little build-up of tension or atmosphere and minor characters just dip in and out.

Nice idea, good casting and I'm hoping it gets a lot better. The first Inspector Morse wasn't that great.

Agree that Jeremy Brett was the best I've seen. Basil Rathbone was hammy and as for Rupert Everett.....

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Like so many modern dramas - it's way too fast. There is little build-up of tension or atmosphere and minor characters just dip in and out.

Nice idea, good casting and I'm hoping it gets a lot better. The first Inspector Morse wasn't that great.

Agree that Jeremy Brett was the best I've seen. Basil Rathbone was hammy and as for Rupert Everett.....

Peter Cushing made a credible Holmes, in the 1968 BBC series.

http://www.amazon.co...D/dp/B00023JH5O

The worst without doubt would be Roger Moore as Holmes!

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As an old Jeremy Brett fan, I can't make my mind up. Is the new Holmes a just a flouncing gurner, or a brilliant new take on a cultural icon?

They are arguing the toss on R5 right now...

I rather enjoyed it. It's just about the only thing I've watched on TV for the last couple of months, and it was pretty watchable for something with 90-minute episodes. It was a bit silly in places, but I'd still like to see more.

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Like so many modern dramas - it's way too fast. There is little build-up of tension or atmosphere and minor characters just dip in and out.

Nice idea, good casting and I'm hoping it gets a lot better. The first Inspector Morse wasn't that great.

Agree that Jeremy Brett was the best I've seen. Basil Rathbone was hammy and as for Rupert Everett.....

+1 . Basil DID have the most sex appeal tho' and a luverlee speaking voice.wub.gif

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Peter Cushing made a credible Holmes, in the 1968 BBC series.

http://www.amazon.co...D/dp/B00023JH5O

The worst without doubt would be Roger Moore as Holmes!

Roger M. and Patrick McNee are the two "suave and debonair" icons. They just wouldn't suit an eccentric drug addict personna.

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Who else objects to being assailed with noise in the action moments?

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I liked the 1st episode. I'm a little bit out on it again after the second though.

I preferred the 1st episode there was a nice injection of humour in it which I thought worked quite well.

Episodes 2 and 3 it was as if they where trying to find out what worked.

Hopefully for series 2 they'll get the scripts tighter.

Overall it seems like it could be a big hit.

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Overall it seems like it could be a big hit.

Nothing compares to 'Mongrels'.

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As an old Jeremy Brett fan, I can't make my mind up. Is the new Holmes a just a flouncing gurner, or a brilliant new take on a cultural icon?

I'm a big fan of the Arthur Conan Doyle stuff and I think it will be hard to beat the Jeremy Brett / ITV effort in terms of accuracy vs the source material. Brett played the character perfectly and stuck the perfect balance between genius and insanity.

Having said that, I really enjoyed "Sherlock". By using a contemporary setting and more modern forms of communication, it was successfully brought up to date. The two lead actors were good choices for their respective roles, and only the slightly thin plots let it down a bit. Fairly high production values too, which is something often missing from present-day TV drama.

Hope they make a second series.

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I thought the first episode was decent. The second and third I really didn't enjoy. I thought the plots were pretty weak, rushed and built very little suspense. Boring in parts.

I really like the representation of Watson, but I find Sherlock too forced. He comes across as a petulant, but hyper intelligent, unlikable teenage girl. Gattis (in his acting role) is dreadful.

So I'd say neither a travesty nor a hit. It might get better though.

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Who else objects to being assailed with noise in the action moments?

I had to turn over during that Nosferatu fight scene last night. Awful.

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I wanted to hate it but I quite enjoyed it. Nothing is going to touch Jeremy Brett's version so why even try. Some interesting touches, I like the way everyone refers to him as 'freak' although the joke about his powers of observation having antisocial implications turned up in the recent Hollywood film which itself stole it from the last BBC adaptation whatever it was called (terrible, they transcribed almost an entire scene actually).

The thing about Sherlock Holmes is that he is bullet proof as a cultural icon. He's had the piss taken out of him, being played really badly, been turned into propaganda and pornography, action hero, buffoon, cartoon animal...it doesn't really matter, he is well beyond the point where any of it is going to stick and was long before anyone here was born. Somewhere the game will always be afoot.

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It was OK - watchable and enjoyable in parts. A bit too "Dr Who" IMO. Each episode could have been 20 minutes shorter as they got boring at times (as usual with modern drama too much whizzy camerawork and not enough story). Don't like the on-screen mobile phone graphics, and I detest those occassional "high impact" whooshy Matrixy bits.

Disappointing "cliffhanger" ending to the last episode. I wish they just wrapped up the episode properly. Moriarty was pretty crap - a bit too Graham Norton IMO.

Jeremy Brett and Eric Porter have nothing to worry about!

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