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What ever happened to just going into work, being yourself and doing your job. Seems these day in office environments - there is so much unfriendiness and paranoia - I work with a management team - We sit in an office together, now you would think there would be constant discussion and debate but some days you can hear a pin drop in the office, any conversation is forced small talk.

On top of that I am pretty sure that every email conversation, every casual chat monitored on Instant messaging tools - you know discussions with colleagues, that are more of a chat than a formal discussion is monitored and discussed by direct bosses. Every website visited is watched, and telephone conversation listened - all monitored and discussed by my direct bosses to form opinions on the sort of person you are. Its absolute control freakery - if they just let people relax at little, and get on with the job and be themselves, and focused on doing their jobs better than trying to control and monitor people. The workplace is becoming more and more like east germany or somewhere, where you have to watch every move you make - and often for pretty low to average salaries.

The think is we often see a friendly laid back face or front on these office environments but often behinds the front - it like their watching your every move you make. Might sound like paranoia but sometimes you have to trust your instincts.

While I have nothing against watching people who are abusing things at work - its gone too far - people are treated like criminals in the workplace these days where bosses are always looking for ways to catch out there subordinates.

Corporate Leaders losing the plot,

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people are treated like criminals in the workplace

old news......

you forgot;

and on the road

and in the home

and out and about while shopping

and entering/leaving the country

The one place that is still free-ish is the countryside.

Saying that in our village the mobile police station (sprinter van) is here every Tuesday "to provide the community options to voice concerns".

The reality is the police run informant networks, women are the worst, I see them virtually running to inform almost a thrill for them to have the power connection with the "bobby".

At least men mostly grass for a reason, with the 40s-60s women its just gratuitous gossip to fill their day.

I had a woman other day boost how she goes looking for cars untaxed parked on the pavement to report FFS

nothing changes

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Yes, certainly the modern open plannish office with it's flickering fluo lighting, the bad, stuffy air, the hunched posture of staring at a screen all the time, and the petty pschological battles between employees and their managers is just a recipe for misery. I think there's a split between people who can just about handle it (these seems to be the clock-watching slackers who just want to serve their time and go) and those more sensitive souls driven to sub-clinical or perhaps clinical mental illness.

The OP needs to get the heck out.

I have a few friends that are Uni educated, intelligent people but they effectively go 'ill' in those environments, and combine easy McJobs with micro-businesses. I don't think there's any shame in saying, 'Look, this crap is eroding my whole sense of well being' and just getting out.

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Yes, certainly the modern open plannish office with it's flickering fluo lighting, the bad, stuffy air, the hunched posture of staring at a screen all the time, and the petty pschological battles between employees and their managers is just a recipe for misery. I think there's a split between people who can just about handle it (these seems to be the clock-watching slackers who just want to serve their time and go) and those more sensitive soul driven to sub-clinical or perhaps clinical mental illness.

The OP needs to get the heck out.

Since its pretty clear they are now monitoring every move - I have taken to googling "working for bad bosses", " working for lazy bosses".

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Everything I do at work is recorded. Every phone call is recorded and listened in to by at least 2 other colleagues in the office.

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Yes, certainly the modern open plannish office with it's flickering fluo lighting, the bad, stuffy air, the hunched posture of staring at a screen all the time, and the petty pschological battles between employees and their managers is just a recipe for misery. I think there's a split between people who can just about handle it (these seems to be the clock-watching slackers who just want to serve their time and go) and those more sensitive souls driven to sub-clinical or perhaps clinical mental illness.

The OP needs to get the heck out.

I have a few friends that are Uni educated, intelligent people but they effectively go 'ill' in those environments, and combine easy McJobs with micro-businesses. I don't think there's any shame in saying, 'Look, this crap is eroding my whole sense of well being' and just getting out.

I am glad someone else can see how these places operate - I think there are lot niave people in work environments who just don't really see what is going on around them, or they choose pretend that everything is ok.

On top that there is so much hushed conversations, and secret meetings and conversations between managers, about who there trying to hire and fire, or what there latest plan is to pull themselves out of the latest mess - and nearly everyday they are the first one out of the office - comes to 4 o clock and there all away home and its all the subordinates in the offices.

Now one could assume there working from home - but I doubt it- they are just lazy.

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The OP needs to get the heck out.

I have a few friends that are Uni educated, intelligent people but they effectively go 'ill' in those environments, and combine easy McJobs with micro-businesses. I don't think there's any shame in saying, 'Look, this crap is eroding my whole sense of well being' and just getting out.

Well....

I got out of cube land - office

I got out of the city/town to the countryside (national park)

I got out of full time work 8 year ago (now mid 30s)

Currently doing Mcjob & microbiz.

Next question get out to where & what ?

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Why get another job?

Most offices aren't like that. So move to another one.

I worked in one that was slightly but it was more that it was split into two camps than the everybody against everybody else picture that you paint.

And sure things are monitored, the amount of rubbish jokes with unfunny photos that go around on e-mails I'm glad they are. I don't say anything on e-mail at work that I would be unhappy with other people seeing; I don't think I ever have. There will always be someone in IT ploughing through them for a gossip down the pub so why give them the ammunition?

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What ever happened to just going into work, being yourself and doing your job. Seems these day in office environments - there is so much unfriendiness and paranoia - I work with a management team - We sit in an office together, now you would think there would be constant discussion and debate but some days you can hear a pin drop in the office, any conversation is forced small talk.

On top of that I am pretty sure that every email conversation, every casual chat monitored on Instant messaging tools - you know discussions with colleagues, that are more of a chat than a formal discussion is monitored and discussed by direct bosses. Every website visited is watched, and telephone conversation listened - all monitored and discussed by my direct bosses to form opinions on the sort of person you are. Its absolute control freakery - if they just let people relax at little, and get on with the job and be themselves, and focused on doing their jobs better than trying to control and monitor people. The workplace is becoming more and more like east germany or somewhere, where you have to watch every move you make - and often for pretty low to average salaries.

The think is we often see a friendly laid back face or front on these office environments but often behinds the front - it like their watching your every move you make. Might sound like paranoia but sometimes you have to trust your instincts.

While I have nothing against watching people who are abusing things at work - its gone too far - people are treated like criminals in the workplace these days where bosses are always looking for ways to catch out there subordinates.

Corporate Leaders losing the plot,

In which case, let's hope they don't monitor your posting.

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I have a mate who is also a teacher. A few years ago at his school the head decided that he would have a look at what the staff were using the internet for presumably to try and weed out timewasters. It turned out the most viewed website for the entire school was the jobs page of the Times Educational Supplement. Oops.

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On tech monitoring part of it is having ahead of IT with some balls.

Managers will always want to know everything their staff do either as they are paranoid about them leaving or because they are micromanaging morons.

We'll flag it if someone is googling horse porn or spending all hours on YouTube but its better to do this by exception rather than giving anyone stupid power they don't need.

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Oh dear ! Now that really would annoy them

Particularly, as most of your posts are about how much you think of your boss!!!!

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On tech monitoring part of it is having ahead of IT with some balls.

Managers will always want to know everything their staff do either as they are paranoid about them leaving or because they are micromanaging morons.

We'll flag it if someone is googling horse porn or spending all hours on YouTube but its better to do this by exception rather than giving anyone stupid power they don't need.

I once worked with a guy a few years ago who was caught red handed by the MD as he walked past his PC. The bottom tool bar gave him away, even though everything was minimised.

He had over 30 seperate EBay windows open at once and was effectively running his business from his work desk. He was gone within the hour and I got his stapler.

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Horse porn? Horse porn?

Does such stuff actually exist?

You've never heard of beastiality? Sheltered life?

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"No, no. I meant to type house porn."

Genuine lols.

I once worked with a guy a few years ago who was caught red handed by the MD as he walked past his PC. The bottom tool bar gave him away, even though everything was minimised.

He had over 30 seperate EBay windows open at once and was effectively running his business from his work desk. He was gone within the hour and I got his stapler.

Score! Did it have the rotating bottom plate to allow inward and outward stapling?

I think managers come down hard on this kind of thing as they feel stupid for not managing the persons output. If you can sit all day in eBay and without anyone noticing then your manager is sh1te.

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Genuine lols.

Score! Did it have the rotating bottom plate to allow inward and outward stapling?

I think managers come down hard on this kind of thing as they feel stupid for not managing the persons output. If you can sit all day in eBay and without anyone noticing then your manager is sh1te.

the stapler was barely functioning and from memory was swiftly traded for an old-school hole punch.

You're right though, the guy got sacked but his team leader wasn't far off as a result for her gross incompetence.

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Genuine lols.

Score! Did it have the rotating bottom plate to allow inward and outward stapling?

I think managers come down hard on this kind of thing as they feel stupid for not managing the persons output. If you can sit all day in eBay and without anyone noticing then your manager is sh1te.

Thats it some people get away with murder, while others are pulled up for the slighted mistake - some people manage to get themselves into a weasel job where they are responsible for nothing - milking the system for years.

Had some colleagues who were earning big pay packets, and day trading at work at the same time, renting out properties, and everytime I spoke them they had a new idea for some sort of business in their part time.

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