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Noticed an ad in the newspaper the other day, some Savile Row tailor is having a sale.

I was wondering, is there any point getting a Bespoke or semi-bespoke suit? I mean, what's the difference between a £300 suit that has been altered to suit you, and a £1200 suit that's been properly tailored?

Does anyone actually notice the bloody difference?

Edit: Oh yeah, some of these apparently cost up to £3500. Eek!

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Of all the blingy rubbish, celebrities and credit-card-maxed-out-non-celeb-wannabees, spend their money on, all the brand names for silly, silly money, I think an expertly measured, fitted and tailored suit is, in comparison a bargain. When you consider how long one will last, the man-hours that go into each one and the specialist skills involved - that if we're not careful may die out in this country - the cost is not that much. If you need a very good suit and you want it to last, it's a no brainer - it'll last for years.

P.S. if you can get a proper Saville Row bespoke for £1200 do it - cos I think the starting price is nearer double that

And don't fall for these ads in the paper that Mr Wang is over from Hong Kong, will measure you up and send you a suit

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I'd love a £1200 suit to complement my £1200 car! :blink:

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I'd love a £1200 suit to complement my £1200 car! :blink:

. . . or your £20k motorbike. ;)

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Noticed an ad in the newspaper the other day, some Savile Row tailor is having a sale.

Was it Sartoriani by any chance?

If so, they're not all they appear, and they're one of these companies who almost always have a sale on, so in reality £500 is the true price, not the £xxxx 'full' price.

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Agree totally with KOJ.

A bespoke suit will make you look slimmer, taller, leaner and just all over great. A friend of mine who is well into his eighties has about a dozen and when he wears one he just looks fantastic. He has had most of them for well over 30 years and they make him look like a real 'gent' - which coincidentally is exactly what he is.

They are expensive but well worth it. If you can also stretch to the bespoke shoes then the comfort and look combo would be unbeatable.

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Don't like suits myself. Never had one. May one day though. Just for the hell of it. And if I do I reckon it will be a quality hand tailored one.

Can I ask how these suits last longer than normal suits ? I can see how they fit better and all. That makes sense. However how would they last longer ? Better material ? Although don't you also get that in 'normal' expensive suits ?

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Can I ask how these suits last longer than normal suits ? I can see how they fit better and all. That makes sense. However how would they last longer ? Better material ? Although don't you also get that in 'normal' expensive suits ?

Yes, I had the same questions.

Also, what about changing body shapes?

I have two expensive suits(off-the-peg top-of-range Jaegers), one of them has been worn a lot and looks almost the same as when I got it, only slight trouble is I bought it when 92kg and am now 87kg.

When clearing out my mums place last year, I found a suit that was bought for me at 18 for a wealthy cousins wedding. I'm about twice as big in the shoulders and chest now, it seems, must be the swimming, the waist was way too tight as well so it's obviously not been all good news!

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Don't like suits myself. Never had one. May one day though. Just for the hell of it. And if I do I reckon it will be a quality hand tailored one.

Can I ask how these suits last longer than normal suits ? I can see how they fit better and all. That makes sense. However how would they last longer ? Better material ? Although don't you also get that in 'normal' expensive suits ?

Suits are for funerals. You're best off avoiding suits. I still kick myself for ever buying the things, useless articles.

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My Father used to have tailor-made suits and they looked superb - there are plenty of excellent tailors in the regions who will make you an excellent suit for a fraction of the price of Saville Road.

To answer your question, yes I think if you are seriously wealthy and can afford a good saville road suit then go for it.

I have had tailored suits off the peg altered for me and they have been good enough IMPO. In fact, excellent.

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Yes, I had the same questions.

Also, what about changing body shapes?

I have two expensive suits(off-the-peg top-of-range Jaegers), one of them has been worn a lot and looks almost the same as when I got it, only slight trouble is I bought it when 92kg and am now 87kg.

When clearing out my mums place last year, I found a suit that was bought for me at 18 for a wealthy cousins wedding. I'm about twice as big in the shoulders and chest now, it seems, must be the swimming, the waist was way too tight as well so it's obviously not been all good news!

A well made suit is tailored with spare material to allow for increase in 'girth'. Many expensive off the peg are not. Equally they can keep it looking good when they take it in as you slim down.

My wife works in a military tailors who also do civilian suits. (Not quite Saville Row, but not quite prices starting from £3k either.) They recently had adjust a guys wardrobe - because he'd lost about 16 stone! Now letting them out again because his wife's been feeding him up. That is an extreme example illustrating what can sometimes be done.

Their shop gets stuff in that is in a disgraceful state, both state of repair and state of cleanliness. (e.g. Damage caused to uniforms by mess rugby and the like.) Its amazing what can be fixed if the original cut and material are good.

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Cheers. Interesting stuff. Still not sure if they are for me though. Great I imagine for pulling birds though.

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Don't like suits myself. Never had one. May one day though. Just for the hell of it. And if I do I reckon it will be a quality hand tailored one.

Can I ask how these suits last longer than normal suits ? I can see how they fit better and all. That makes sense. However how would they last longer ? Better material ? Although don't you also get that in 'normal' expensive suits ?

You have a much wider choice of cloth than you get in ready to wear. The few times I've had suits made by tailors I've always asked for cloth that's hardwearing that won't go shiny. I've had one suit made in tweed that I hope will last me decades rather than years. These have been made by off-Row small tailors in London.

I've tried the various Mr Wangs/Mr Woos that measure you up in hotels then send you a suit without a fitting. They're ok but really just an alternative to off the peg for people who want a slightly better fit and choice of fabric.

I would love to be able to afford Savile Row but have never really understood the difference between full bespoke and made to measure. As I understand it, the former is when all the paper patterns are made new; the latter is the adaptation of existing standard patterns. I have both a made to measure and a bespoke suit and to be honest the made to measure one fits better!

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I would love to be able to afford Savile Row but have never really understood the difference between full bespoke and made to measure. As I understand it, the former is when all the paper patterns are made new; the latter is the adaptation of existing standard patterns. I have both a made to measure and a bespoke suit and to be honest the made to measure one fits better!

Also, my understanding of bespoke is that even though the paper patterns are made just for you, the cloth is cut and tacked together and then you go in for subsequent fittings to make sure it 'hangs' (for want of a better word) just right - hence you see half made suits covered in white chalk marks (the fitting stage).

This done skillfully will hide all types of awkward body shapes that a made to measure from standard pattern will not.

For instance two men may be 6ft tall and 42 inch chest but one will have very square shoulders and the other sloping shoulders - the standard pattern is suited to the more common square shouldered build and will look awful on the other guy

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Thanks for the replies. Yes it was Sartoriani, I wouldn't have contacted them as Wikipedia does not list them as one of the pucker Savile Row tailors. I'd have done more research before approaching a tailor.

I am only casting around for opinion as I have been using the same suit for the past 12+ years. It was a hand me down from an uncle who was very similar in build to me when I was a teenager. I have been using this suit until now, and will be wearing it for yet another wedding soon. It's a good suit but is starting to look worn. I have also put on a bit since I was a teenager so have always looked like the suit was slightly too small for me.

I only wear my suit a handful of times a year, so don't really have a reason to replace it other than it being worn.

I think I'll start at M&S. :lol:

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I've never really understood the purpose of suits, or business attire for women for that matter such as pencil skirts and high heels. It all seems the epitome of style over functionality. They don't look comfortable. They don't seem to offer any protection against the elements or have any insulation. They aren't easy to wash. The shoes are stiff And neck-ties, what is the point of them?

Yet for some odd reason this is all supposed to make a man look respectable. Why is this?

It all just seems like some historical and cultural hang-up that just wouldn't happen if you were designing clothes from scratch.

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I've never really understood the purpose of suits, or business attire for women for that matter such as pencil skirts and high heels. It all seems the epitome of style over functionality. They don't look comfortable. They don't seem to offer any protection against the elements or have any insulation. They aren't easy to wash. The shoes are stiff And neck-ties, what is the point of them?

Yet for some odd reason this is all supposed to make a man look respectable. Why is this?

It all just seems like some historical and cultural hang-up that just wouldn't happen if you were designing clothes from scratch.

All absolutely true.

But you live here and now, sometimes you have to conform to peoples expectations to get some of what you want.

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I have bought a couple of excellent value suits from this company....http://www.asuitthatfits.com/shop/index.php

Very helpful people and excellent finished product.

Must mention that I have no connection with them apart from being a satisfied customer.

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Years ago I nipped into a little shop on Regent Street to buy a suit and got rapping with this Jewish tailor as we went about the extensive alterations to this off the peg thing I was buying.

In between nipping this and padding that and tucking something else I asked him about the bespoke stuff.

His reply was that if you've got the money bespoke is gonna be better but not so much better as to justify the difference in price from a well altered off the peg number if you are a pretty normal shape. If you are a special shape then it's different, as off the peg isn't made to cater for that. This was some time ago so maybe things have changed.

I reckon that Savile Row is damned good but not damned good value. If you want to look damned good and don't have money coming out of your ears, I reckon exercise is a better bet than Savile Row. If you're in great shape and you have clean finger nails and you keep your mouth shut, you'll look pretty much good in anything.

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I've never really understood the purpose of suits, or business attire for women for that matter such as pencil skirts and high heels. It all seems the epitome of style over functionality. They don't look comfortable. They don't seem to offer any protection against the elements or have any insulation. They aren't easy to wash. The shoes are stiff And neck-ties, what is the point of them?

Yet for some odd reason this is all supposed to make a man look respectable. Why is this?

It all just seems like some historical and cultural hang-up that just wouldn't happen if you were designing clothes from scratch.

Apparently neck ties point to a man's groin. High heels are clearly good for women's (sp?) looks as it arches their back and encourages the swishy walk. Other than the sexual connotations I agree with you.

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I have bought a couple of excellent value suits from this company....http://www.asuitthatfits.com/shop/index.php

Very helpful people and excellent finished product.

Must mention that I have no connection with them apart from being a satisfied customer.

Cool they have a branch in Bristol. I'll pop along next week.

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