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A more efficient solar panel/way of capturing the sun's energy, and a cheap but high energy storage battery, invent those two, and the oil age is over.

Maybe we have the first of the two being developed right now.

If so, the oil companies are going to have to work very hard to stop someone creating a massively more efficient battery.

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Again?

I remember seeing a feature on Tomorrows world on the BBC at the start of the 1990s.

I saw it again end of the 1990s and yet again around 2005. It is starting to go all fusion again, just 50 years away, it's been 50 years away for the last 50 years.

All these new fandangled energy harvesting techniques are vaporware and TBH are worse than Duke Nuke'em 3D II which has been in production for the past 13 years and has never arrived.

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All these new fandangled energy harvesting techniques are vaporware and TBH are worse than Duke Nuke'em 3D II which has been in production for the past 13 years and has never arrived.

They cancelled duke nukem forever last year

3D Realms went broke , was disgraceful what they did to the fans...

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Fear not. Even if it doesn't work, the cost of oil will likely double within a decade and Solar will be much more competitive then :D

A decade? Even at $70/barrel solar will beat oil in a year or two in many parts of the world.

Solar is already cheaper than nuclear power (And thats bog standard solar panels, not the much more efficient and economical Solar concentrators).

http://www.dailytech.com/Duke+Report+Claims+Solar+Energy+is+Now+Cheaper+Than+Nuclear+Power/article19228.htm

Solar is soon (this year?) going to beat fossil fuels on cost in sunny Italy, and the UK is a few years from cross over point. The major problem is getting production ramped up, they are, and have been, increasing by 40-50% per year but it won't be enough.

Beating fossil fuels on straightforward cost is one thing, but of course the UK and many other countries pay you a premium for solar fed back to the grid which makes it a no brainer.

In hard numbers, $2.30 per watt is about the cheapest I've found

http://www.affordable-solar.com/yingli-yl225p29b-225watt-solar-panel-pallet-20.htm

but its significantly cheaper ($1.74/watt ) at some other retailer apparently -

http://www.solarbuzz.com/Moduleprices.htm

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They cancelled duke nukem forever last year

3D Realms went broke , was disgraceful what they did to the fans...

They did? Shit, I knew it was not going to happen but there was always hope....

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A decade? Even at $70/barrel solar will beat oil in a year or two in many parts of the world.

Solar is already cheaper than nuclear power (And thats bog standard solar panels, not the much more efficient and economical Solar concentrators).

http://www.dailytech.com/Duke+Report+Claims+Solar+Energy+is+Now+Cheaper+Than+Nuclear+Power/article19228.htm

Solar is soon (this year?) going to beat fossil fuels on cost in sunny Italy, and the UK is a few years from cross over point. The major problem is getting production ramped up, they are, and have been, increasing by 40-50% per year but it won't be enough.

Beating fossil fuels on straightforward cost is one thing, but of course the UK and many other countries pay you a premium for solar fed back to the grid which makes it a no brainer.

In hard numbers, $2.30 per watt is about the cheapest I've found

http://www.affordable-solar.com/yingli-yl225p29b-225watt-solar-panel-pallet-20.htm

but its significantly cheaper ($1.74/watt ) at some other retailer apparently -

http://www.solarbuzz.com/Moduleprices.htm

Manufacturing cost of cells hit 74c/watt. Coal plants are considered to cost $1/watt.

http://www.pv-tech.org/news/_a/manufacturing_cost_per_watt_at_first_solar_falls_to_us0.76_cents_module_fau/

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Manufacturing cost of cells hit 74c/watt. Coal plants are considered to cost $1/watt.

http://www.pv-tech.org/news/_a/manufacturing_cost_per_watt_at_first_solar_falls_to_us0.76_cents_module_fau/

But you are not comparing apples with apples.

What is the cost per kWh - nameplate capacity being somewhat deceptive - and what keeps the lights on at night?

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But you are not comparing apples with apples.

What is the cost per kWh

Coal is something like 12c per KWhr, so the corresponding figure for solar is less or more depending on where you are.

and what keeps the lights on at night?

Electricity.

Produced by whatever way you want. Hydro. nuclear, coal, wind, storage (using hydro, undersea pneumatic, sodium battery is most efficient for solar). In a domestic environment you have a feed in tariff so you are connected to the mains and get paid to generate the electricity at a much higher rate that you consume. Its paid for by suckers like you, without a feed in tariff.

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But you are not comparing apples with apples.

What is the cost per kWh - nameplate capacity being somewhat deceptive - and what keeps the lights on at night?

A balanced energy mix - you don't put all your eggs in one basket, you rely on a range of (complimentary) energy sources.

E.g. France has a massive number of nuclear power plants, but also a good number of hydro dams which seem to be used mainly for the usage spikes (leaving the nukes on base load).

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For a green boom to work it has to deliver. Empty promises just won't cut it.

Another dot com boom won't work.

Look out the window some time, the world has moved on. Coal power is being replaced with renewable energy.

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Thanks for the interesting link.

Hope it comes to something, efficient PV has been "around the corner" for a while now, it's starting to feel like fusion energy.

Not really.

The article is probably just hot air, but PV is being used right now in commercial, non-subsidised applications. Think of mountain-top phone relays, weather stations, ocean-going yachts, and of course satellites. PV as it stands now is "efficient" enough for lots of marginal cases.

As opposed to fusion, which is still 30 years away from even the first commercial applications. Just as it was 30 years ago B)

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For a green boom to work it has to deliver. Empty promises just won't cut it.

Another dot com boom won't work.

It is delivering...................7% today..................20% by 2020.

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The article is very interesting, like we have been saying for a while now. Man always finds a way.

Looking less and less likely by the day that the apocolyptic energy scenario(s) are every going to come to fruition. Feck me its a bad day for the HPC uber bears.................

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and theres me lying in the sun absorbing enough energy to power a car....NOT.

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A decade? Even at $70/barrel solar will beat oil in a year or two in many parts of the world.

Solar is already cheaper than nuclear power (And thats bog standard solar panels, not the much more efficient and economical Solar concentrators).

http://www.dailytech...rticle19228.htm

Solar is soon (this year?) going to beat fossil fuels on cost in sunny Italy, and the UK is a few years from cross over point. The major problem is getting production ramped up, they are, and have been, increasing by 40-50% per year but it won't be enough.

Beating fossil fuels on straightforward cost is one thing, but of course the UK and many other countries pay you a premium for solar fed back to the grid which makes it a no brainer.

In hard numbers, $2.30 per watt is about the cheapest I've found

http://www.affordabl...l-pallet-20.htm

but its significantly cheaper ($1.74/watt ) at some other retailer apparently -

http://www.solarbuzz...oduleprices.htm

If you buy a solar panel and simply feed its output into the national grid - how long would it take to pay for itself?

Could I buy a 10 acre field, fill it with solar panels and make money allowing for capital costs and lifespan of the panels?

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Could I buy a 10 acre field, fill it with solar panels and make money allowing for capital costs and lifespan of the panels?

Taking into account thefts ... a long time?

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