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Was H G Wells An Early Hpcer?

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Guest Ian Chesterton

In "The War of the Worlds", the narrator encounters an artilleryman on two occassions, and on the second there is an extraordinary outburst from him. He wants to live under the ground so mankind can survive the Martians and has grand plans on how to do it. But now that they know the Martians intend to harvest humans for food, he has something to say about humanity, society and the type of people he's looking for:

"Well, those who mean to escape their catching must get ready. I'm getting ready. Mind you, it isn't all of us that are made for wild beasts; and that's what it's got to be. That's why I watched you. I had my doubts. You're slender. I didn't know that it was you, you see, or just how you'd been buried. All these--the sort of people that lived in these houses, and all those damn little clerks that used to live down that way--they'd be no good. They haven't any spirit in them--no proud dreams and no proud lusts; and a man who hasn't one or the other--Lord! What is he but funk and precautions? They just used to skedaddle off to work--I've seen hundreds of 'em, bit of breakfast in hand, running wild and shining to catch their little season-ticket train, for fear they'd get dismissed if they didn't; working at businesses they were afraid to take the trouble to understand; skedaddling back for fear they wouldn't be in time for dinner; keeping indoors after dinner for fear of the back streets, and sleeping with the wives they married, not because they wanted them, but because they had a bit of money that would make for safety in their one little miserable skedaddle through the world. Lives insured and a bit invested for fear of accidents. And on Sundays--fear of the hereafter. As if hell was built for rabbits! Well, the Martians will just be a godsend to these. Nice roomy cages, fattening food, careful breeding, no worry. After a week or so chasing about the fields and lands on empty stomachs, they'll come and be caught cheerful. They'll be quite glad after a bit. They'll wonder what people did before there were Martians to take care of them. And the bar loafers, and mashers, and singers--I can imagine them. I can imagine them," he said, with a sort of sombre gratification. "There'll be any amount of sentiment and religion loose among them. There's hundreds of things I saw with my eyes that I've only begun to see clearly these last few days. There's lots will take things as they are--fat and stupid; and lots will be worried by a sort of feeling that it's all wrong, and that they ought to be doing something. Now whenever things are so that a lot of people feel they ought to be doing something, the weak, and those who go weak with a lot of complicated thinking, always make for a sort of do-nothing religion, very pious and superior, and submit to persecution and the will of the Lord. Very likely you've seen the same thing. It's energy in a gale of funk, and turned clean inside out. These cages will be full of psalms and hymns and piety. And those of a less simple sort will work in a bit of--what is it?--eroticism."

He paused.

"Very likely these Martians will make pets of some of them; train them to do tricks--who knows?--get sentimental over the pet boy who grew up and had to be killed. And some, maybe, they will train to hunt us."

"No," I cried, "that's impossible! No human being----"

"What's the good of going on with such lies?" said the artilleryman. "There's men who'd do it cheerful. What nonsense to pretend there isn't!"

But then the reality of his abilities is revealed:

I saw the work he had spent a week upon--it was a burrow scarcely ten yards long, which he designed to reach to the main drain on Putney Hill--I had my first inkling of the gulf between his dreams and his powers. Such a hole I could have dug in a day.

Looks like we're not the first!

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In "The War of the Worlds", the narrator encounters an artilleryman on two occassions, and on the second there is an extraordinary outburst from him. He wants to live under the ground so mankind can survive the Martians and has grand plans on how to do it. But now that they know the Martians intend to harvest humans for food, he has something to say about humanity, society and the type of people he's looking for:

But then the reality of his abilities is revealed:

Looks like we're not the first!

It's a great book. HG may well have hung out in OT but visited the main board every now and then.

I think John Wyndham was definitely a main forum jobber.

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Guest Ian Chesterton

Even typing that post has tired me out.

Here, have some champagne.

Fancy a game of cards?

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Actually I hve noticed a flaw in the artilleryman's plan. What's to stop the Martians noticing we are living underground, and developing machines to follow us down there and kill us? After all, it's hard to imagine you have the technological nous to cross interplanetary space, but not to lift a manhole cover.

I'd put my faith more in this guy.

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That's what I call kick-ass proactive resistance!

You can see the differnce between us reserved Brits (Wells) and the gung-ho Yanks (Marvel comics).

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Guest Ian Chesterton

Actually I hve noticed a flaw in the artilleryman's plan. What's to stop the Martians noticing we are living underground, and developing machines to follow us down there and kill us? After all, it's hard to imagine you have the technological nous to cross interplanetary space, but not to lift a manhole cover.

Look at the technology the Martians have. Their spaceship unscrews for gawds sake, apparently by hand! Then they start building their flat packed Ikea tripod war machines to the "sound of hammering in the pit" - in other words, no complicated tools are required! Then a torpedo ram twats three of them, and the most they can do is gas London and wipe out Leatherhead.

I'm not impressed.

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Guest Ian Chesterton

Parson Nathaniel would have fitted into Off-topic very well.

I suspect XQuork is the captain of the Thunderchild.

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You can see the differnce between us reserved Brits (Wells) and the gung-ho Yanks (Marvel comics).

Bart!

Have you regenerated, you seem different and sexier?

I'm glad you got over the fez thing, it was very, VERY wrong...

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Bart!

Have you regenerated, you seem different and sexier?

I'm glad you got over the fez thing, it was very, VERY wrong...

Fez?

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Guest Ian Chesterton

Plus they didn't think to isolate themselves from the Earth's environment - even going so far as sucking blood of the locals. Asking for a nasty case of something, really.

Next thing you know they'll be buying bloody vuvuzelas.

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Bart!

Have you regenerated, you seem different and sexier?

For years people have been wondering what a female Doctor would be like and now we know. Not sure about the "costume" though. Do you think it's eccentric enough?

If the average HPCer is a New Labour-supporting fabian socialist then, yes, HG Wells is our man.

Wells, who was extremely critical of the role that privilege and hereditary factors in capitalist society and in his utopia, people gain power as a result of their intelligence and training

Still a long way to go then.

Unlike many socialists, he supported Britain's involvement in the war, however, he believed politicians should use this opportunity to create a new world order.

:o

Plus they didn't think to isolate themselves from the Earth's environment - even going so far as sucking blood of the locals. Asking for a nasty case of something, really.

Don't die of ignorance.

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