Guest tbatst2000 Posted July 23, 2010 Share Posted July 23, 2010 http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/politics/7905681/Jack-Straw-asked-to-appear-before-US-Senate-committee-over-Lockerbie-bomber-release.html Wouldn't it be great if he refused and was then extradicted under the one sided treaty him and Blair put in place? I don't imagine for a second it will happen but that would be so funny and perfectly ironic I'd probably die laughing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dubai Posted July 23, 2010 Share Posted July 23, 2010 The Scottish politicians are refusing. In a letter to Mr Kerry, Mr Salmond said there had been no contact with BP over Megrahi’s fate. He said the only papers he had about the affair that were not public were correspondence from the British and US governments. There is no legal obligation for non-US citizens to attend hearings. What is the agreement? If it's not a Treaty, they can just tell them to bog off. Let's invite dubya to Westminster to answer a few q's about Iraq and 9/11, shall we? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
@contradevian Posted July 23, 2010 Share Posted July 23, 2010 http://www.telegraph...er-release.html Wouldn't it be great if he refused and was then extradicted under the one sided treaty him and Blair put in place? I don't imagine for a second it will happen but that would be so funny and perfectly ironic I'd probably die laughing. Much as I would like that to happen, I think the Americans should be told to bog off! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bpw Posted July 23, 2010 Share Posted July 23, 2010 The Scottish politicians are refusing. In a letter to Mr Kerry, Mr Salmond said there had been no contact with BP over Megrahi’s fate. He said the only papers he had about the affair that were not public were correspondence from the British and US governments. There is no legal obligation for non-US citizens to attend hearings. What is the agreement? If it's not a Treaty, they can just tell them to bog off. Let's invite dubya to Westminster to answer a few q's about Iraq and 9/11, shall we? Time to accept the truth Britain has voting rights in the EU and begging rights in the USA The UK was truly humbled this week with the visit by Cameron treated as a low key affair with little time spent with the world diversity champ. Remember this is the guy who told his aids to throw out the bust of Churchill because he was known to use the n - word. This is also the guy who wants to put his boot on the evil throat of BP..... Ironic when you consider his failure to reign in banking corporation thieves who have ruined millions of Americas lives....... Note 96 US banks have failed in 2010. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warwick Yellow Posted July 23, 2010 Share Posted July 23, 2010 Time to accept the truth Britain has voting rights in the EU and begging rights in the USA The UK was truly humbled this week with the visit by Cameron treated as a low key affair with little time spent with the world diversity champ. Remember this is the guy who told his aids to throw out the bust of Churchill because he was known to use the n - word. This is also the guy who wants to put his boot on the evil throat of BP..... Ironic when you consider his failure to reign in banking corporation thieves who have ruined millions of Americas lives....... Note 96 US banks have failed in 2010. That is of course true.............. I find this a tricky one; good in many ways to tell the Septics to stuff themselves for their bullying arrogance (study the hypocritical closet support their government has given to the US executives of Union Carbide if you are short of reasons why) but it would be fantastic to see that self-hating, anti British vermin Straw humiliated. Hopefully he fancies he can 'do a Galloway' which he will fail totally at. On balance the latter for me; any Liebour politician sweating and one can only hope humiliated is always a great pleasure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Krackersdave Posted July 23, 2010 Share Posted July 23, 2010 The Scottish politicians are refusing. In a letter to Mr Kerry, Mr Salmond said there had been no contact with BP over Megrahi’s fate. He said the only papers he had about the affair that were not public were correspondence from the British and US governments. There is no legal obligation for non-US citizens to attend hearings. What is the agreement? If it's not a Treaty, they can just tell them to bog off. Let's invite dubya to Westminster to answer a few q's about Iraq and 9/11, shall we? Are you sure the Scottish politcos are refusing - Salmond and Kenny open said on the BBC two days ago that they would be happy to go and give evidence and stated on the record that the only information not disclosed was the private correspondence between the Scottish gov and the the UK and US equivalents relating to the case. And only because both the US and UK govts had refused permission to publish those letters. I smell BS in the air... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woot Posted July 23, 2010 Share Posted July 23, 2010 The Scottish politicians are refusing. In a letter to Mr Kerry, Mr Salmond said there had been no contact with BP over Megrahi’s fate. He said the only papers he had about the affair that were not public were correspondence from the British and US governments. There is no legal obligation for non-US citizens to attend hearings. What is the agreement? If it's not a Treaty, they can just tell them to bog off. Let's invite dubya to Westminster to answer a few q's about Iraq and 9/11, shall we? ...and if the hearing is anything like the grandstanding farce that the BP Chairman underwent, the US should be told in no uncertain terms to sod off: just a bunch of pre-election politicos using the 'fact-finding' masquerade and a political broadcast platform. Nasty and deeply unprofessional - did not cast the US in a good light at all. I too enjoy the idea of inviting Bush over here for a reciprocal interview. Again though Labour should be hung out to dry for acquiescing to that appallingly unilateral extradition treaty - it would be nice to see Straw get his come-uppance through it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yellerkat Posted July 23, 2010 Share Posted July 23, 2010 ...Remember this is the guy who told his aids to throw out the bust of Churchill because he was known to use the n - word... Far more to do with the fact that Churchill was in charge during the ruthless - and unreported here - suppression of the Kenyan independence movement. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kingding Posted July 23, 2010 Share Posted July 23, 2010 ...and if the hearing is anything like the grandstanding farce that the BP Chairman underwent, the US should be told in no uncertain terms to sod off: just a bunch of pre-election politicos using the 'fact-finding' masquerade and a political broadcast platform. Nasty and deeply unprofessional - did not cast the US in a good light at all. I too enjoy the idea of inviting Bush over here for a reciprocal interview. Again though Labour should be hung out to dry for acquiescing to that appallingly unilateral extradition treaty - it would be nice to see Straw get his come-uppance through it. I agree, I grow rapidly tired of watching America swinging their balls around the world stage especially after the outrageous behaviour of their previous administration and their appalling handling of the Bhopal ****-up, the area around which remains highly toxic to this day. No, Jack Straw is an **** granted, but the U.S has no right to imperiously summon people from other nations for a grilling while their own behaviour has been and remains so questionable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blobloblob Posted July 23, 2010 Share Posted July 23, 2010 http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/politics/7905681/Jack-Straw-asked-to-appear-before-US-Senate-committee-over-Lockerbie-bomber-release.html Wouldn't it be great if he refused and was then extradicted under the one sided treaty him and Blair put in place? I don't imagine for a second it will happen but that would be so funny and perfectly ironic I'd probably die laughing. That would be lovely. I'd drive him to the airport myself. Agree with Sir John Steed though. Sod off and mind your own business America. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dubai Posted July 23, 2010 Share Posted July 23, 2010 Are you sure the Scottish politcos are refusing - Salmond and Kenny open said on the BBC two days ago that they would be happy to go and give evidence and stated on the record that the only information not disclosed was the private correspondence between the Scottish gov and the the UK and US equivalents relating to the case. And only because both the US and UK govts had refused permission to publish those letters. I smell BS in the air... I just copied a paragraph from the link..... it would be a bit fawning of Salmond and Kenney to say they'd be happy to go...... there's a principle at stake here, and as "leaders" they should be setting an example... i.e. telling them to get fvcked. Unless there really is some treaty in force, as mentioned earlier, in which case those who allowed it into force deserve being at the receiving end first..... and ConDem should have it torn up immediately. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest X-QUORK Posted July 23, 2010 Share Posted July 23, 2010 I'm full of admiration for Alex Salmond telling the Yanks to go f**k themselves. By all means, US senators can come over here and request interviews with our politicians in the same way that anyone else can...but sending for them like naughty school children just shows how arrogant the USA has become. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Krackersdave Posted July 23, 2010 Share Posted July 23, 2010 I just copied a paragraph from the link..... it would be a bit fawning of Salmond and Kenney to say they'd be happy to go...... there's a principle at stake here, and as "leaders" they should be setting an example... i.e. telling them to get fvcked. Unless there really is some treaty in force, as mentioned earlier, in which case those who allowed it into force deserve being at the receiving end first..... and ConDem should have it torn up immediately. Yup - Salmonds just been on the BBC telling them he can't go as he's a sitting minister and only answers to Holyrood! He did point out that there many others who are no longer ministers or even in politics who can easily go ... - such as the one chat who was in the same tent the same day both the BP Lybia and PTA were signed! Now who would that be eh? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dubai Posted July 23, 2010 Share Posted July 23, 2010 I'm full of admiration for Alex Salmond telling the Yanks to go f**k themselves. By all means, US senators can come over here and request interviews with our politicians in the same way that anyone else can...but sending for them like naughty school children just shows how arrogant the USA has become. "Pride comes before a fall". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daniel stallion Posted July 23, 2010 Share Posted July 23, 2010 Do you think the yanks would be interested in me tea-bagging Obama live on prime time TV? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kingding Posted July 23, 2010 Share Posted July 23, 2010 Do you think the yanks would be interested in me tea-bagging Obama live on prime time TV? I think you resting your nuts upon the forehead of the Commander in Chief may get you some attention yes. I'll give you twenty quid if you turkey-slap David Letterman though, can't abide that man. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dubai Posted July 23, 2010 Share Posted July 23, 2010 Do you think the yanks would be interested in me tea-bagging Obama live on prime time TV? Er.... what's "tea-bagging"? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Ian Chesterton Posted July 23, 2010 Share Posted July 23, 2010 Er.... what's "tea-bagging"? Without the lycra Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dubai Posted July 23, 2010 Share Posted July 23, 2010 Without the lycra Thanks. Just to make sure I googled it..... eeeew! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woot Posted July 23, 2010 Share Posted July 23, 2010 Without the lycra Hilarious, but toooo much information! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Ian Chesterton Posted July 23, 2010 Share Posted July 23, 2010 Hilarious, but toooo much information! Its the excess of "short & curly" style leg hair that really pushes it over the edge for me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Krackersdave Posted July 23, 2010 Share Posted July 23, 2010 Thanks. Just to make sure I googled it..... eeeew! As quoted in Family Guy - A Cleveland Steamer followed by a teabag dismount... Yuch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Ayatollah Buggeri Posted July 23, 2010 Share Posted July 23, 2010 I'm full of admiration for Alex Salmond telling the Yanks to go f**k themselves. By all means, US senators can come over here and request interviews with our politicians in the same way that anyone else can...but sending for them like naughty school children just shows how arrogant the USA has become. John Kerry and Hillary Clinton are both failed Presidential candidates who are taken about as seriously by the US political establishment and population as Harriet Harman and George Galloway are here, i.e. not much. But even so, the extent of their own goal in issuing this 'invitation' to Salmond and MacAskill is almost in Sarah Palin's league. Did they truly not anticipate the reaction that Diane Abbott, Lord McNally and some sanctimonious scion of the Ewing clan parroted on Any Questions? this evening? The fact that they were trying to lionise Megrahi just like the Tyneside chavs have been doing with Raoul Moat got totally lost in the whoops and cheers every time one of them delivered the predictable one-liner about being answerable to the Scottish electorate, not the American one. It really doesn't matter now what Kerry's and Clinton's enquiry establishes, as it is guaranteed to be dismissed as American imperialism by all except a few readers of The New York Times. It would have been slightly more politically clever to ask Salmond publicly to request that the Libyans had Megrahi back over to them, on the grounds that there's clearly been a misdiagnosis. Of course Gadaffy would tell him where to go, but Salmond would be a 'damned if he did, damned if he didn't' position and the Senators would have had the last laugh. As it is, they've just succeeded in making the US look like international bullies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Skinty Posted July 23, 2010 Share Posted July 23, 2010 As it is, they've just succeeded in making the US look like international bullies. Maybe it's because they are? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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