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This morning I was having my regular morning coffee in a well known chain of coffee shops. I do it every morning after dropping my son at nursery. I am sure the fact that I was in Starbucks is enough for many to go to mach2 on the vitriol scale alone., but I like to read my book in a bit of piece before I start a full days daytime TV.

Today a nouveau riche, hoity toity, posh type woman walked in with her army of hilariously named children. Instead of controlling her children she just allowed them to run around the shop for the full 20 minutes I was in there. Screaming, spinning, rolling around right by my feet. It was constant and without relent.

Why is that people think this is OK? To completely ruin other people's peace just so they can let Tammy and Wyndham off the leash. She had no interest in controlling her children and seemed perfectly happy for them to terrorise the whole joint.

In the end I snapped, walked up to the woman and said 'There's a wackywarehouse over the road' and walked out, after complaining to the manger. That's all I could think of without swearing.

Why do these people who think that because they have the trappings of wealth (and I'm sorry this type of behaviour is mostly confined to the Cheshire set from what I see, or at least the nouveau riche HPI, x5 generation) think it's ok to do this? It's far more offensive and selfish than the so called 'chav' culture, who more often than not aren't intelligent enough to know any better.

Control your ******ing kids or keep them at home! Rant over.

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Why do these people who think that because they have the trappings of wealth (and I'm sorry this type of behaviour is mostly confined to the Cheshire set from what I see, or at least the nouveau riche HPI, x5 generation) think it's ok to do this? It's far more offensive and selfish than the so called 'chav' culture, who more often than not aren't intelligent enough to know any better.

Control your ******ing kids or keep them at home! Rant over.

Well duh...It's because if you have money you live in la la land and just don't hear it. So no problems. Also, dontcha know that it's not the done thing to in-still discipline in your offspring these days. You will suppress their ability to grow up on their own...and you call yourself a parent! :rolleyes:

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On my honeymoon I paid a bit extra on our tickets (actually a fair bit extra) to get us into one of those lounges where you are supposed to be able to put your feet up and have a glass of plonk or two. I thought this would be a nice way to start off our holiday of romance and vigorous bonking.

Anyway no sooner had we sat down than a couple came in with three kids who they immediately disavowed all ownership of and went straight to the booze counter and sat down to read the paper as their offspring went, to put it mildly, absolutely bug******.

After about ten minutes of screaming, fighting, knocking into people and then knocking a glass of wine into my new wife's lap I went over and said something along the lines of "would you mind keeping your bloody children under control?" and with an air of extreme annoyance and muttered words they shouted their kids over from where they were throwing crisps across the room and then berated me for having the nerve to tell them what to do with their kids.

I would have quite happily dragged this farking donut and his vacant wife down to the tarmac and fed them into an engine but as this was the start of my honeymoon I did'nt want to go too nuclear so left it with a muttered profanity and a look that would have sheared the wool off a sheeps scrotum at a hundred yards for an egg-cosy.

Nothing againt the kids, they just do what they know but parents like that are tossers of the purest ray sublime.

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Well duh...It's because if you have money you live in la la land and just don't hear it. So no problems. Also, dontcha know that it's not the done thing to in-still discipline in your offspring these days. You will suppress their ability to grow up on their own...and you call yourself a parent! :rolleyes:

You're right. Tammy and Wyndham were probably the next big thing in creative web-design, and as such should be allowed to blossom.

After they've both been punched in the head by me.

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On my honeymoon I paid a bit extra on our tickets (actually a fair bit extra) to get us into one of those lounges where you are supposed to be able to put your feet up and have a glass of plonk or two. I thought this would be a nice way to start off our holiday of romance and vigorous bonking.

Anyway no sooner had we sat down than a couple came in with three kids who they immediately disavowed all ownership of and went straight to the booze counter and sat down to read the paper as their offspring went, to put it mildly, absolutely bug******.

After about ten minutes of screaming, fighting, knocking into people and then knocking a glass of wine into my new wife's lap I went over and said something along the lines of "would you mind keeping your bloody children under control?" and with an air of extreme annoyance and muttered words they shouted their kids over from where they were throwing crisps across the room and then berated me for having the nerve to tell them what to do with their kids.

I would have quite happily dragged this farking donut and his vacant wife down to the tarmac and fed them into an engine but as this was the start of my honeymoon I did'nt want to go too nuclear so left it with a muttered profanity and a look that would have sheared the wool off a sheeps scrotum at a hundred yards for an egg-cosy.

Nothing againt the kids, they just do what they know but parents like that are tossers of the purest ray sublime.

Second post today that's made me have a right laugh. Thanks.

I had to Live Pause Jeremy Kyle to read it all.

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On my honeymoon I paid a bit extra on our tickets

Nothing againt the kids, they just do what they know but parents like that are tossers of the purest ray sublime.

You made I giggle !and that meant that her indoors shouted across the room 'You on that bloody housepriceporn site again ?

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+1 billion. I really hate it when people don't even attempt to control their children in public. I particularly hate it when they just leave their babies crying on public transport (particularly planes) and make no attempt to quieten them. I can't stand the sound of babies crying (it drives me completely insane) but I can just about put up with it if the parents are trying to do something about it.

And let the older ones punch, kick and hang off the back of your seat - for hours. :angry:

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As someone who has no children I think I'm actually more tolerant of this sort of thing, because I tell myself that it is very easy to criticise others without having ever had to actually walk-the-talk, so to speak.

What does get to me a little is the 'rights' certain parents seem to assume over others once they have children. Breaking parking rules, pushing in, taking up far more room than appropriate, special treatment for the same price etc.

I have had situations at work were a team is expected to arrange cover for very unpopular shifts (Christmas etc). Very frequently I have offered to do these shifts to allow the people with kids to be with them. I cast aside the fact that my life is empty and shallow 365 days of the year where they have the joy of children, but want that little bit more - at the expense of my additional misery - because I feel it is the right thing to do (I actually have no real issue with it). However, on many occasions, before I have had the opportunity to volunteer, someone with children will invariably make the statement that they and their fellow parents should be given preference in this respect and that it is outrageous to consider anything else. As if I am a mere resource for society. Whilst I choose to give my time to help them out, it grates massively for them to contemptuously insist on it. I'm surprised they don't believe I should be used as spare parts should their children have the need for my kidneys. They probably do.

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Today a nouveau riche, hoity toity, posh type woman walked in with her army of hilariously named children.

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I really have to bite my tongue! Especially as some of my friends children seem to have been named after somebody drank the bongwater, at some festival or otther! :huh:

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As someone who has no children I think I'm actually more tolerant of this sort of thing, because I tell myself that it is very easy to criticise others without having ever had to actually walk-the-talk, so to speak.

What does get to me a little is the 'rights' certain parents seem to assume over others once they have children. Breaking parking rules, pushing in, taking up far more room than appropriate, special treatment for the same price etc.

I have had situations at work were a team is expected to arrange cover for very unpopular shifts (Christmas etc). Very frequently I have offered to do these shifts to allow the people with kids to be with them. I cast aside the fact that my life is empty and shallow 365 days of the year where they have the joy of children, but want that little bit more - at the expense of my additional misery - because I feel it is the right thing to do (I actually have no real issue with it). However, on many occasions, before I have had the opportunity to volunteer, someone with children will invariably make the statement that they and their fellow parents should be given preference in this respect and that it is outrageous to consider anything else. As if I am a mere resource for society. Whilst I choose to give my time to help them out, it grates massively for them to contemptuously insist on it. I'm surprised they don't believe I should be used as spare parts should their children have the need for my kidneys. They probably do.

Female worker? Have a child. Hey presto 20 extra days a year on fully paid leave in most jobs. And they know it.

I used to regularly get the call - 'I can't come in, I've had a difficult night with Shania'

And you can only say 'OK' and pay her for the day. Whereas, one of my team used to turn up with matchsticks in his eyes having had the same difficult night, because he knew he couldn't get away with it. Or, 'can';t come it, little Kai's got a sniffle'

Different topic, I know. It's not a dig at women, just those who rip the piss, hiding behind their kids.

Back to the topic, just by saying 'they're just being kids' is not good enough. How about trying 'just being a responsible parent'?

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On my honeymoon I paid a bit extra on our tickets (actually a fair bit extra) to get us into one of those lounges where you are supposed to be able to put your feet up and have a glass of plonk or two. I thought this would be a nice way to start off our holiday of romance and vigorous bonking.

Anyway no sooner had we sat down than a couple came in with three kids who they immediately disavowed all ownership of and went straight to the booze counter and sat down to read the paper as their offspring went, to put it mildly, absolutely bug******.

After about ten minutes of screaming, fighting, knocking into people and then knocking a glass of wine into my new wife's lap I went over and said something along the lines of "would you mind keeping your bloody children under control?" and with an air of extreme annoyance and muttered words they shouted their kids over from where they were throwing crisps across the room and then berated me for having the nerve to tell them what to do with their kids.

I would have quite happily dragged this farking donut and his vacant wife down to the tarmac and fed them into an engine but as this was the start of my honeymoon I did'nt want to go too nuclear so left it with a muttered profanity and a look that would have sheared the wool off a sheeps scrotum at a hundred yards for an egg-cosy.

Nothing againt the kids, they just do what they know but parents like that are tossers of the purest ray sublime.

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Whereas, one of my team used to turn up with matchsticks in his eyes having had the same difficult night, because he knew he couldn't get away with it.

Do you think that's good or bad? Presumably if someone is in that kind of condition then they won't be functioning very effectively at work anyway.

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Why do these people who think that because they have the trappings of wealth (and I'm sorry this type of behaviour is mostly confined to the Cheshire set from what I see, or at least the nouveau riche HPI, x5 generation) think it's ok to do this?

Because they are selfish and hence teaching their kids to be selfish.

I was once in a restaurant in China which had an automatic door. It was cold outside, but a mum with a bored kid decided the best way to entertain said child was to let the kid open and close the door every 5-10 seconds by hopping in and out of the restaurant. Naturally it was also one of those doors which bleeps when it opens and we had the good fortune to be sitting directly behind it with no option to move. The Chinese have impressively high boredom thresholds so we had to sit there eating our food with the bing-bong noise and icy wind blowing in constantly for a good half hour. Problem was it being a foreign country so we felt we could not really vent at the lady (plus our Chinese in all honesty was piss poor) and ended up having one of those "Why is China so retarded" expat moany conversations.

It's not just Britain, crap behaviour just appears on the increase everywhere

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Do you think that's good or bad? Presumably if someone is in that kind of condition then they won't be functioning very effectively at work anyway.

It was a while ago. I haven't been in that job for a long time.

You're right, they may not be firing on all cyclinders. But why expect someone to pay them to be at home just because they have chosen to bring up a family?

I may sound like a young Mussolini, but seriously, it's become so unfair that a mother can knowingly phone up, unchallenged, and catch up on sleep, but the Dad has to crawl his sorry butt into the office because he'd never get away with it.

It's sad, but I know many people who actively do what they can not to hire women wherever possible for these sorts of reasons. Many are of course not like this, but I can probably think of 20 or so right now that have ripped the piss in the name of their kids.

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However, on many occasions, before I have had the opportunity to volunteer, someone with children will invariably make the statement that they and their fellow parents should be given preference in this respect and that it is outrageous to consider anything else.

You should point out they decided to have kids and that it is outrageous (and indeed phenonmenally selfish) for them to assume you should pick up the slack. Fair play to you volunteering, but the whole sense of entitlement thing must really stick in the craw.

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I may sound like a young Mussolini, but seriously, it's become so unfair that a mother can knowingly phone up, unchallenged, and catch up on sleep, but the Dad has to crawl his sorry butt into the office because he'd never get away with it.

It's called wanting your cake and eating it. Way of the world these days and it is sad that in merely pointing this selfish behaviour out you feel compelled to state you are not some sort of bigot.

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I'd just like to say that being a parent of a toddler on a plane who decides to cry is not something you can simply control. Life isn't like that chaps; toddlers aren't like that.

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I'd just like to say that being a parent of a toddler on a plane who decides to cry is not something you can simply control. Life isn't like that chaps; toddlers aren't like that.

I have a little toddler. And I know exactly what you are saying, you can't do anything about it. That maybe why at this moment in time I wouldn't take him on a flight. And if I had to, I'd make sure I did everything I could to at least show that I was trying to deal with it as best as possible.

However, you can certainly tell a group of 5/6 year olds not to run around like maniacs in a shop.

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I have a little toddler. And I know exactly what you are saying, you can't do anything about it. That maybe why at this moment in time I wouldn't take him on a flight. And if I had to, I'd make sure I did everything I could to at least show that I was trying to deal with it as best as possible.

However, you can certainly tell a group of 5/6 year olds not to run around like maniacs in a shop.

Yeah, it's put a dampener on flying anywhere for a few years. I was commenting on mmmmmmmmmmm.......bears post really.

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Yeah, it's put a dampener on flying anywhere for a few years. I was commenting on mmmmmmmmmmm.......bears post really.

I know.... I was just choosing to agree with you.

Could you imagine the stress, as a parent, in an already stressful situation, trying to control, comfort, feed etc a little toddler on an 8 hour flight?

It doesn't even warrant thinking about.

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I know.... I was just choosing to agree with you.

Could you imagine the stress, as a parent, in an already stressful situation, trying to control, comfort, feed etc a little toddler on an 8 hour flight?

It doesn't even warrant thinking about.

Again, I'm pretty tolerant of crying / frustrated / hyperactive kids on flights. I did get very irritated, though, with parents who felt it wasn't necessary to stop their little kid constantly kicking the back of my seat and pulling the head rest to and fro violently. Happened quite a lot. Fortunately I mostly did long-haul so got the Sky Bed which couldn't be easily shaken around!

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Again, I'm pretty tolerant of crying / frustrated / hyperactive kids on flights. I did get very irritated, though, with parents who felt it wasn't necessary to stop their little kid constantly kicking the back of my seat and pulling the head rest to and fro violently. Happened quite a lot. Fortunately I mostly did long-haul so got the Sky Bed which couldn't be easily shaken around!

This is where the beauty of the inflight entertainment system kicks in, headphones on and happy days.

I did nearly see a punch up on a plane once when someone reprimanded a guy for letting his kids run up and down the aisle though I have a feeling that is more to do with the irritation of flying itself. Kids might be bad sometimes on flights but if you wanted to see the largest concentration of pissed off people in general there is to see outside of a Daily Mail convention then I direct you no further than Heathrow Terminal 3.

If you can get from bus to plane there without wanting to break out a flamethrower then you are Ghandi and I claim my five pounds.

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This is where the beauty of the inflight entertainment system kicks in, headphones on and happy days.

I did nearly see a punch up on a plane once when someone reprimanded a guy for letting his kids run up and down the aisle though I have a feeling that is more to do with the irritation of flying itself. Kids might be bad sometimes on flights but if you wanted to see the largest concentration of pissed off people in general there is to see outside of a Daily Mail convention then I direct you no further than Heathrow Terminal 3.

If you can get from bus to plane there without wanting to break out a flamethrower then you are Ghandi and I claim my five pounds.

To be honest, I'm at my most relaxed when I'm at a Daily Mail convention.

Those Kossovans need to be stopped their random BBQs. Those swans belong to the Queen!

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I'd just like to say that being a parent of a toddler on a plane who decides to cry is not something you can simply control. Life isn't like that chaps; toddlers aren't like that.

We did a few long hall flights earlier this year with our then 16 month old daughter, We were dreading it, having suffered on planes with crying babies and didn't want to be the people everyone hates on the flight. You could tell people were looking at us thinking "Oh for ******s sake, I hope to god you aren't sat next to me on the plane." So we tried to do everything to limit any annoyance to our fello passengers like pre-booking in areas of the plane with no other passengers, taking lots of stuff to keep her entertained etc. We were so worried, we almost reconsidered the trip but everything turned out great on the flights, she slept most of the time and only cried a bit on take off and landing due to pressure on the ears.

Even better though, she screamed her head off at the airport queues in passport control/security so we kept being ushered to the front.

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I have a Meldrew moment every time I leave the flat actually.

This thread reminds of last year I was in a motel breakfast room in Florida. Some guy comes in with his two young kids, and busies himself eating breakfast. His kids decide to come over to my table and talk to my wife and I. So far not so terrible, but we obviously wanted to be left alone, and this guy doesn't give a damn. Then his daughter coughs directly into my cornflakes, without missing a beat.

But what also drives me to distraction are parents talking so damn loudly to their kids in public places, as if they think they need to broadcast to everyone within earshot. Usually it's single mothers. It's like they're saying "mother and kids coming through, get out the way".

I need to stay indoors more :ph34r:

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