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SHEFFIELD faces a jobs bombshell with an estimated 7,000 public sector posts due to be axed in the next six years, according to independent research.

A study by a leading consultancy group found nearly one in 10 public sector jobs could go - making the city among the hardest hit by the coalition government's deep spending cuts.

The newly established Office for Budget Responsibility has forecast more than 610,000 job losses in the public sector nationally.

Local Futures, whose former clients include the Confederation of British Industry and European Commission, has examined the distribution of public sector jobs across the country and then provided forecasts for how many jobs will go in each area.

It predicts Sheffield will lose 7,014 jobs from the city's current 82,891-strong public sector workforce between now and 2016.

This is the eighth highest total after Birmingham with 13,205, Glasgow at 10,942, Leeds at 8,864, Westminster with 8,672, Edinburgh at 7,851, Manchester at 7,628 and Liverpool facing 7,523 job losses.

The report predicts the cuts will spread into the wider economy because public sector contracts will dry up and people will have less money to spend.

It said: "Unless the spending cuts are carefully managed at a local level, the Government risks forcing parts of the country into a spiral of decline.

"The chasm left by the decline of heavy industry, combined with a weak private sector presence, could widen further still the North-South divide and place significant new demands on some of Britain's most challenged places.

"Without support to help peripheral local economies shift away from state-sponsored jobs, the prospects for some of them will be bleak."

The report claims the former Labour government used increased levels of public sector employment to help "recovery and regeneration in the older industrial regions of North of England".

"As a result, in many of these localities, net job creation has largely been state-sponsored, with private sector activity also, to some degree, dependent on public sector contracts. Accordingly, many parts of the country have become strongly reliant on redistributed state funds and thus will be hugely vulnerable to any planned cuts," it added.

It would appear the folly of Labour policy has been laid bare, as many on here have noted the growth in jobs has been purely down to govt spending, during the largest ever consumer boom.

The UK has been well and truly shafted by Labours economic policy rather than generating private sector employment they went for the quick easy fix of deficit spending and govt jobs.

Thank god it's sustainable.

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It's good to know that Liebour spent our money wisely during the "nice period" ...... so that we can survive the rainy days .......

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http://www.thestar.co.uk/news/EXCLUSIVE-City-will-be-among.6428842.jp

It would appear the folly of Labour policy has been laid bare, as many on here have noted the growth in jobs has been purely down to govt spending, during the largest ever consumer boom.

The UK has been well and truly shafted by Labours economic policy rather than generating private sector employment they went for the quick easy fix of deficit spending and govt jobs.

Thank god it's sustainable.

What about all those civil servants houses in Dore - will they reduce in price

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It would appear the folly of Labour policy has been laid bare, as many on here have noted the growth in jobs has been purely down to govt spending, during the largest ever consumer boom.

The UK has been well and truly shafted by Labours economic policy rather than generating private sector employment they went for the quick easy fix of deficit spending and govt jobs.Thank god it's sustainable.

What is so staggering is that there are said to be '82,891 public sector workers' in the city of Sheffield. That many????? Talk about rebalancing the economy is no joke. No doubt Labour will blame th Coalition for an increase in unemployment in these 'black public sector spots'.

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It would appear the folly of Labour policy has been laid bare, as many on here have noted the growth in jobs has been purely down to govt spending, during the largest ever consumer boom.

The UK has been well and truly shafted by Labours economic policy rather than generating private sector employment they went for the quick easy fix of deficit spending and govt jobs.Thank god it's sustainable.

What is so staggering is that there are said to be '82,891 public sector workers' in the city of Sheffield. That many????? Talk about rebalancing the economy is no joke. No doubt Labour will blame th Coalition for an increase in unemployment in these 'black public sector spots'.

less than 50k in 1997 i think

things can only get better

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Labour can be blamed for a lot of things but I don't think they can really be blamed for globalisation and the failure of the private sector to generate decently paid work in the UK.

All the "private sector" jobs the coalition will create will just be private companies taking public money. For me these companies are worse from an economic point of view as money leaves the local economy to shareholders (in tax havens no doubt)

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The public sector jobs were created to replace the manufacturing jobs that have moved offshore and the failure of the private sector to create them.

Now we cant afford the public sector jobs.

Good here innit?

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Labour can be blamed for a lot of things but I don't think they can really be blamed for globalisation and the failure of the private sector to generate decently paid work in the UK.

All the "private sector" jobs the coalition will create will just be private companies taking public money. For me these companies are worse from an economic point of view as money leaves the local economy to shareholders (in tax havens no doubt)

What? You mean like handing multi-billion Pound IT contracts to firms who then ship in loads of workers from India, house them in bedsits and pay them Indian wages whilst working in the UK? Oh, and because they are temporary workers they get to pay no taxes here?

Nothing to do with Labour?

Or how about certain Government Ministers then outsourcing Public Sector IT contracts, worth sometimes hundreds of millions, to Indian IT firms owned by Indians who then ship the work off to Bangalore? Why not give the work to British IT firms? Why not encourage and grow British firms?

You are having a laff surely?

What has gone on in the past 15 years has been obscene and has brought this country to its knees.

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What? You mean like handing multi-billion Pound IT contracts to firms who then ship in loads of workers from India, house them in bedsits and pay them Indian wages whilst working in the UK? Oh, and because they are temporary workers they get to pay no taxes here?

Nothing to do with Labour?

Or how about certain Government Ministers then outsourcing Public Sector IT contracts, worth sometimes hundreds of millions, to Indian IT firms owned by Indians who then ship the work off to Bangalore? Why not give the work to British IT firms? Why not encourage and grow British firms?

You are having a laff surely?

What has gone on in the past 15 years has been obscene and has brought this country to its knees.

I don't disagree.

Surely though that is an arguement for keeping the development in house (e.g. having more public sector workers) rather than giving the contracts to the private sector who sent all the money overseas.

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I don't disagree.

Surely though that is an arguement for keeping the development in house (e.g. having more public sector workers) rather than giving the contracts to the private sector who sent all the money overseas.

1. Do they have the skills?

2. Do you not understand why having such a huge Public Sector means that there is no real money being generated?

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What? You mean like handing multi-billion Pound IT contracts to firms who then ship in loads of workers from India, house them in bedsits and pay them Indian wages whilst working in the UK? Oh, and because they are temporary workers they get to pay no taxes here?

Nothing to do with Labour?

Or how about certain Government Ministers then outsourcing Public Sector IT contracts, worth sometimes hundreds of millions, to Indian IT firms owned by Indians who then ship the work off to Bangalore? Why not give the work to British IT firms? Why not encourage and grow British firms?

You are having a laff surely?

What has gone on in the past 15 years has been obscene and has brought this country to its knees.

New Labour followed neo liberal policies and rode the wave of globalisation.

It worked very well for them when they were in power but now it something that they will be eternally ashamed of.

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less than 50k in 1997 i think

things can only get better

From the report 'It predicts Sheffield will lose 7,014 jobs from the city's current 82,891-strong public sector workforce between now and 2016.'

I fail to see how losing 10% of the jobs will save 25% of the budget. 10% over the next 6 years is just normal attrition with minimal replacement.

The real story is the increase from 50,000 to 83,000 (assuming the 50,000 is correct) during Nulabour's spendfest.

In 2008 the population of Sheffield was 547,000. Strip out old folk, retired, kids, unemployed etc :o

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But they are not ashamed, nor will they ever admit to the folly, just listen to Harman and Balls.

The people who are implicated will not admit they were wrong maybe but history will show the Labour party and the Democrats in the US

betrayed the working people they were formed to represent.

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In 2008 the population of Sheffield was 547,000. Strip out old folk, retired, kids, unemployed etc :o

Unemployed on JSA looks to be around the 17k mark. Wonder if students were counted in the 547,000 because that could make up 50,000 odd. :blink:

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The report claims the former Labour government used increased levels of public sector employment to help "recovery and regeneration in the older industrial regions of North of England".

TRANSLATION

The former labour government increased levels of public sector employment to paper over the lack of recovery and regeneration and was dependent on unsustainable private sector debt to do so 2000-2007 and unsustainable public sector debt 2008-2010 to continue to do so.

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Unemployed on JSA looks to be around the 17k mark. Wonder if students were counted in the 547,000 because that could make up 50,000 odd. :blink:

Census result so I assume yes.

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What? You mean like handing multi-billion Pound IT contracts to firms who then ship in loads of workers from India, house them in bedsits and pay them Indian wages whilst working in the UK? Oh, and because they are temporary workers they get to pay no taxes here?

Nothing to do with Labour?

Or how about certain Government Ministers then outsourcing Public Sector IT contracts, worth sometimes hundreds of millions, to Indian IT firms owned by Indians who then ship the work off to Bangalore? Why not give the work to British IT firms? Why not encourage and grow British firms?

You are having a laff surely?

What has gone on in the past 15 years has been obscene and has brought this country to its knees.

It's a disgrace what has happened in IT, telecomms etc... Taking IT as an example

The British government awards the contract for a new system

The contractor is an overseas firm

The overseas firm uses the money to move jobs to India, China

British IT workers lose their jobs

Opportunities for grads and apprentices disappear

The profits from the contract go overseas

The civil servants are not equipped to work with remote development teams

The development teams are shipped over from India, with their families. They pay no taxes. They eventually gain residency

The government gets a (even) shitter system than when the work was done by British workers.

The system is riddled with problems causing more staff to be taken on

The system does not lead to any savings

All off the back of a projected 10% reduction in cost which never materialises and is wiped out anyway by the reduced tax receipts from and benefits paid to displaced British workers (also priced out the job market by Indian developers who gain residency and undercut wages paid to locals).

It's an absolute lose-lose situation for the government, British workers, for opportunities for future job market entrants. It makes absolutely no sense to do it, apart from the contractors who get to maximise profits at the expense of serious damage tgo the British economy.

Don't think this is true? Well I seen it happen. Thank god I'm out of that now.

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I lived near Sheffield in the 80's and saw the devastation wrought upon the local economy by the Conservatives at the time. Destruction of heavy industry such as mining and steel and associated manufacturing.

Sheffield steel used to be amongst the best in the world, associated with top quality produce such as cutlery, knives, alloys etc which were exported around the world. All mostly gone now, replaced with nothing other than public sector jobs, estate agents (at least before 2007) and low paid retail positions.

What exactly are areas like this supposed to do to replace all the jobs that were lost? The standard tory answer seems to be for everyone to 'Get on their bike', move down south and work in 'the knowledge economy', painting ourselves into a corner as usual. But what about those who aren't equipped with the knowledge / experience to do that? What do they do? There have been a myriad of incentives aimed at encouraging startups in Sheffield throughout the last 20 years but the good quality jobs that allowed people to earn a decent living never returned.

In some ways, there is nothing wrong with certain areas having high concentrations of public sector jobs if there is nothing else available in that area and other areas have agreater advantage in generating private sector positions, as long as the balance is right overall.

Fudge is right. The working class have been betrayed by successive governments who sold them the neo liberal 'Globalisation is good for you' lie.Perhaps it would be in a world of infinate resources, but we don't live in such as world and their gain is our loss. It has turned out to be a zero sum game with only the super rich of this country really gaining anything and everyone else being shafted.

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less than 50k in 1997 i think

things can only get better

From the report 'It predicts Sheffield will lose 7,014 jobs from the city's current 82,891-strong public sector workforce between now and 2016.'

I fail to see how losing 10% of the jobs will save 25% of the budget. 10% over the next 6 years is just normal attrition with minimal replacement.

The real story is the increase from 50,000 to 83,000 (assuming the 50,000 is correct) during Nulabour's spendfest.

ok it may have been closer to 55k than 50k but still

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I was in Sheffield last weekend. The city centre skyline there is very public sector, with lots of buildings adorned with logos like UfI and Sheffield Hallam, alongside the massive DWP and DCSF base at Moorfoot (pictured).

Sheffield has seen a 55% increase in public sector employment over the last decade - just one of the findings in our latest report.

Over the past decade, the growth of lots more UK cities has been boosted by big injections of public cash. Almost 70% of the 1.2 million net additional jobs created in UK cities between 1998-2007 were public sector jobs. Right now, the public sector provides one in four jobs in UK cities - even more in cities like Swansea.

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