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No doubt we're in for more of the same about unemployment being a personal failing, and that a smile and a song in your heart can conqueror prevailing economic malaise.

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No doubt we're in for more of the same about unemployment being a personal failing, and that a smile and a song in your heart can conqueror prevailing economic malaise.

Is this the one with the comfort eating munter who bullies already depressed and harrassed people into wage slavery?

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No doubt we're in for more of the same about unemployment being a personal failing, and that a smile and a song in your heart can conqueror prevailing economic malaise.

Yes can not wait for this offering , as it is from the affluent south east , however it's Dagenham not a part of the south east with much affluence. Just down the road from me.

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Is this the one with the comfort eating munter who bullies already depressed and harrassed people into wage slavery?

Got it in one.

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Wow, there's a lot of hostility on here towards the fairy Jobmother. I thought she was really good last week treating the people she was helping with respect and also helping them break a very vicious cycle. It was noticable how as the episode went on the self confidence of the two people she was helping improved also and this must surely be of benefit to them in their personal lives and as a family unit. She also showed them they were better off in work (though whether that would apply if they both were in work I don't know... I'd doubt it). I thought it was a positive programmme overall.

It certainly seems better to get some of our own people to do jobs then uproot people from other countries and bring them here away from their families and then tax everyone a premium to pay for local people not to work and have a higher likelihood of suffering various ills because of it.

I agree there's an argument to be had about living wage and if 100% employment for those capable of working is possible, and it is a strong argument too, but one problem at a time (though this may be the cart before the horse - better then nothing though).

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It certainly seems better to get some of our own people to do jobs then uproot people from other countries and bring them here away from their families and then tax everyone a premium to pay for local people not to work and have a higher likelihood of suffering various ills because of it.

I agree there's an argument to be had about living wage and if 100% employment for those capable of working is possible, and it is a strong argument too, but one problem at a time (though this may be the cart before the horse - better then nothing though).

I think you might find that people find programms like this with people like her a bit patronizing.

We uproot people from other countries and bring them here away from their families in order to keep wages down by having more people than jobs. Business love it , the tax premium does not affect everyone only those on low and average earnings the rich make up for it with their increased profits.

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I agree there's an argument to be had about living wage and if 100% employment for those capable of working is possible, and it is a strong argument too, but one problem at a time (though this may be the cart before the horse - better then nothing though).

You have to understand, not everybody wants a job to be a wage slave. You have to get with the program.

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Watched it tonite in fits & starts. I find her utterly patronising, especially with her pseudo psychology. Good luck to that girl who found a job, but in the real world, she would not have had a hope in hell without the C4 cameras on her.

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You have to understand, not everybody wants a job to be a wage slave. You have to get with the program.

Funny that when i left school with a few "O" levels at sixteen and all my year did the same thing we all got jobs as there were jobs about . Remember everyone wanting a job as they wanted a life and a future.

Now i know lots of younger people who have left school with far more qualifications and at a later age than us lot back then and they can not find jobs. So many people pick on them and say that they do not want jobs , and say there is work there if they want it , yet I think it might be something to do with a broken economy and very few jobs. Back when i left school there was probley a tiny % who did not want to work , I never met any of them , and I would bet today that tiny % has not changed it's the jobs that have disappeared.

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Is this the one with the comfort eating munter who bullies already depressed and harrassed people into wage slavery?

Oh come on, as Ian Duncan Smith said "work makes you free".

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Funny that when i left school with a few "O" levels at sixteen and all my year did the same thing we all got jobs as there were jobs about . Remember everyone wanting a job as they wanted a life and a future.

Now i know lots of younger people who have left school with far more qualifications and at a later age than us lot back then and they can not find jobs. So many people pick on them and say that they do not want jobs , and say there is work there if they want it , yet I think it might be something to do with a broken economy and very few jobs. Back when i left school there was probley a tiny % who did not want to work , I never met any of them , and I would bet today that tiny % has not changed it's the jobs that have disappeared.

Funny.. when I was a student a few years ago I never had a problem finding part time or unskilled work. I used to go to the local agency.. the next week I had a job.

You managed to get a job.

Nobody is presuming that all people who are unemployed are lazy or not looking for work.. however, most of us have been there at some point and know that eventually if you keep looking you end up finding something. In contrast to that, I know people who ARE lazy, they smoke too much weed, make absolutely no effort to better themselves, they take a job, don't turn up on time, lose it, blame society/anyone else but them self, complain about how unfair the world is, smoke some more weed, go fishing, get nagged into finding another job, keep it for 10 minutes, complain it is too difficult / the manager's an ass, get fired..

I appreciate that the job market is probably a lot tougher now.. but the fact remains that there are some people out there who are work shy. Frankly I'm amazed you don't know any yourself.

* Edit to add.. I have no particular problem with recreational drugs.. just happened to be part of this example.

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Oh come on, as Ian Duncan Smith said "work makes you free".

Straight off the gates of Auschwitz

I rest my case.. apparently working is worse than being in a Nazi concentration camp :rolleyes:

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Funny.. when I was a student a few years ago I never had a problem finding part time or unskilled work. I used to go to the local agency.. the next week I had a job.

You managed to get a job.

Nobody is presuming that all people who are unemployed are lazy or not looking for work.. however, most of us have been there at some point and know that eventually if you keep looking you end up finding something. In contrast to that, I know people who ARE lazy, they smoke too much weed, make absolutely no effort to better themselves, they take a job, don't turn up on time, lose it, blame society/anyone else but them self, complain about how unfair the world is, smoke some more weed, go fishing, get nagged into finding another job, keep it for 10 minutes, complain it is too difficult / the manager's an ass, get fired..

I appreciate that the job market is probably a lot tougher now.. but the fact remains that there are some people out there who are work shy. Frankly I'm amazed you don't know any yourself.

Yes, some people are work shy, but they are the minority. The majority of job seekers are single or have no dependants and as such get between £50-65 a week. They are desperate to find work to improve their living standard

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Funny.. when I was a student a few years ago I never had a problem finding part time or unskilled work. I used to go to the local agency.. the next week I had a job.

You managed to get a job.

Nobody is presuming that all people who are unemployed are lazy or not looking for work.. however, most of us have been there at some point and know that eventually if you keep looking you end up finding something. In contrast to that, I know people who ARE lazy, they smoke too much weed, make absolutely no effort to better themselves, they take a job, don't turn up on time, lose it, blame society/anyone else but them self, complain about how unfair the world is, smoke some more weed, go fishing, get nagged into finding another job, keep it for 10 minutes, complain it is too difficult / the manager's an ass, get fired..

I appreciate that the job market is probably a lot tougher now.. but the fact remains that there are some people out there who are work shy. Frankly I'm amazed you don't know any yourself.

See, what I can see there are folks who are work shy but also not asking for much. Smoking weed and bumming around don't cost much...provided someone hasn't crafted a massive housing bubble and enormous state that requires feeding.

It all revolves around the rentier class.

They want everyone working to pay them their "due."

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Yes, some people are work shy, but they are the minority. The majority of job seekers are single or have no dependants and as such get between £50-65 a week. They are desperate to find work to improve their living standard

I'm not sure how much of a minority.. Perhaps I was lucky, but I never had a problem finding factory/shop work.

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See, what I can see there are folks who are work shy but also not asking for much. Smoking weed and bumming around don't cost much...provided someone hasn't crafted a massive housing bubble and enormous state that requires feeding.

It all revolves around the rentier class.

They want everyone working to pay them their "due."

Not at all.. I have no problem with anyone who pays their own way to afford a modest lifestyle. If you want to bum around and smoke weed I have no issue with that at all. Provided you can afford it and don't presume someone else should pay for it.

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I'm not sure how much of a minority.. Perhaps I was lucky, but I never had a problem finding factory/shop work.

There are tens of applicants for even the most menial low paying jobs.

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Not at all.. I have no problem with anyone who pays their own way to afford a modest lifestyle. If you want to bum around and smoke weed I have no issue with that at all. Provided you can afford it and don't presume someone else should pay for it.

We will never have full employment, so maybe the cost of *you* having a job that provides a good standard of living, is accepting that society needs to throw a few crumbs to those that will likely never find stable work.

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There are tens of applicants for even the most menial low paying jobs.

Roughly six months ago, I was told about a van driving job that was being advertised in my local job centre. In less than 24 hours, it had had 150 applicants.

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There are tens of applicants for even the most menial low paying jobs.

Now, possibly. 5 years ago I doubt this was the case.

I know someone with no qualifications.. started looking for a job a little over 2 years ago and got a job working in a school helping with the after school club.

2 years later, she is about to finish her GNVQ level 3 childcare and will be looking for jobs as a teachers assistant. She has plans, eventually, to train up to become a fully trained primary school teacher and I expect she will do it.

Took her about 2/3 months to get her foot in the first job. I have never failed to see someone with a good attitude and work ethic find a job eventually.

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Funny.. when I was a student a few years ago I never had a problem finding part time or unskilled work. I used to go to the local agency.. the next week I had a job.

You managed to get a job.

Nobody is presuming that all people who are unemployed are lazy or not looking for work.. however, most of us have been there at some point and know that eventually if you keep looking you end up finding something. In contrast to that, I know people who ARE lazy, they smoke too much weed, make absolutely no effort to better themselves, they take a job, don't turn up on time, lose it, blame society/anyone else but them self, complain about how unfair the world is, smoke some more weed, go fishing, get nagged into finding another job, keep it for 10 minutes, complain it is too difficult / the manager's an ass, get fired..

I appreciate that the job market is probably a lot tougher now.. but the fact remains that there are some people out there who are work shy. Frankly I'm amazed you don't know any yourself.

* Edit to add.. I have no particular problem with recreational drugs.. just happened to be part of this example.

Your amazed that I don't know any myself , I said that when i left school i did not know any. Try reading what is put in front of you before answering . When i left school if you found yourself out of work your parent's told you to go and work in a job like the one in Fairy Jobmother tonight that they were wetting their knickers over . You took an anything job in a shop as those jobs were in abundance and you did not shout about it either as it was looked on as dead end and failing if that was all you could get. Today we have t.V. shows with people acting like they have won the lottery when getting a job like that. That is how much the jobs market has changed.

Yes I managed to get a job , but it was not easy and it was via contacts and it is not always full time or permanant. Last week i worked six days this week i have had no work. Know many my age who can not get jobs , even the take anything jobs as there are queues of people for them.

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Wow, there's a lot of hostility on here towards the fairy Jobmother. I thought she was really good last week treating the people she was helping with respect and also helping them break a very vicious cycle. It was noticable how as the episode went on the self confidence of the two people she was helping improved also and this must surely be of benefit to them in their personal lives and as a family unit. She also showed them they were better off in work (though whether that would apply if they both were in work I don't know... I'd doubt it). I thought it was a positive programmme overall.

Theres a lot of people on here who want socialism for them, so long as someone else pays. Unfortunately.

They seem to think because the banksters got blank cheques so should we all. Rather than the banksters should have never got blank cheques in the first place.

Since the tories have come to power most posters on this website seem to have turned from libertarian to goldfish memoried liebour drones who have forgotten the last 10 years, against any cuts, against any change and completely convinced the status quo can continue indefinetely.

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Now, possibly. 5 years ago I doubt this was the case.

I know someone with no qualifications.. started looking for a job a little over 2 years ago and got a job working in a school helping with the after school club.

2 years later, she is about to finish her GNVQ level 3 childcare and will be looking for jobs as a teachers assistant. She has plans, eventually, to train up to become a fully trained primary school teacher and I expect she will do it.

Took her about 2/3 months to get her foot in the first job. I have never failed to see someone with a good attitude and work ethic find a job eventually.

So the girl who left school with "A " levels and applied for 200 jobs , did not get anywhere and commited suicide did not happen ?

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