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The man is beyond contempt.

quite.

a comitted marxist spilling the beans on a fascist calling a stalinist derogatory terms because they did not share the same view on left-wing authoritarianism.

..and so full of their own self belief that they are right and everybody else is intellectually deficient(that applies to all 3,plus milliband,balls and harpie)

fact is they ALL wanted control for control's sake,so squabbling betwixt and between them should not come as a surprise.

playground politics at it's best.

it's like watching toddler tantrums on steroids.

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Mr Blair promised Mr Brown in 2003 that he would step aside and not fight the next general election.

But around the same time, the then-Prime Minister's advisers drew up a plan - named "Operation Teddy Bear" - to split the Treasury in two and weaken Mr Brown's power.

Ahh, bless. Screw the people/electorate, with these criminals its 'my turn now'

Mental, all three of them.

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Tony Blair described Gordon Brown as "mad, bad, dangerous and beyond hope of redemption"

I think Tony was right in this assessment. Tony's mistake was not firing him early on. Brown was allowed free reign to destroy our nation's economy. Blair should have recognised a madman was in number 11 and done his duty for the nation by sacking him.

TBH, the worst government we have ever had. Shocking incompetence.

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IT'S A NON-STORY

Tony Blair described Gordon Brown as "mad, bad, dangerous and beyond hope of redemption"

I think it's out of context. Haha. The next line reads; "when I let him play on my Les Paul" (electric guitar)

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IT'S A NON-STORY

Tony Blair described Gordon Brown as "mad, bad, dangerous and beyond hope of redemption"

I think it's out of context. Haha. The next line reads; "when I let him play on my Les Paul" (electric guitar)

tony-blair-guitar2.jpg

Why I frequent HPC - very funny.

It's shocking that for all we new about Bonkers Brown, he was allowed to continue for the sake of the politicos being in power. Remember he was lauded as the best chancellor ever. A complete misrepresentation of the truth. Our mess is deeper because of the pusillanimity of the Labour party. They sold us down the river, because it suited them as individuals. It's tragic.

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No, It's treason.

You are right. Treason is the correct terminology for what has been done to the country.

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I can't believe the press are letting Mandelslime and the rest of them get away with this :angry:. Only two months ago Brown was the saviour of the world, now he's the opposite :rolleyes:.

I hope people will learn from this, NuLabour politicians are only out for themselves. They will say or do anything to get elected and when their time is up, they will say the opposite to sell their memoirs, or make millions on the lecture circuits. Complete scum :angry:

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Tony Blair described Gordon Brown as "mad, bad, dangerous and beyond hope of redemption"

I think Tony was right in this assessment. Tony's mistake was not firing him early on. Brown was allowed free reign to destroy our nation's economy. Blair should have recognised a madman was in number 11 and done his duty for the nation by sacking him.

TBH, the worst government we have ever had. Shocking incompetence.

The economy was already down the toilet - Brown's mistake was to follow the de-regulation nonsense of the Reagan/Thatcher axis. New Labour thought that by aping the previous bunch of idiots they could fund a mixed economy on the back of the City - problem was that the City was populated by free-market workers - i.e. chancers and crooks.

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I know you think Labour can do no wrong but could you explain the reason behind Gordon's decision to sell off our gold for buttons? Did Margaret Thatcher make him do it? Gordon Brown had years of plenty and spent it buying votes by creating a big public sector.

Wrong on the first point and downhill from there - but I'm unlikely to disclose my views on a site which is mostly hostile to rational debate and where partisan representation of viewpoints is cherished more highly than factual information.

New Labour attempted to mix de-regulated markets with social democracy - making a pact with the Reagonomic Devil if you like - whilst turning Brown's blind-eye to the inherent instability in such a free-market nonsense.

One doesn't however have to be red-blooded communist to recognise the inherent instability in casino capitalism or why there are good reasons for those who support capitalism to constrain its excesses. Glass-Steagal fully recognised the cost of the Depression and the current banking crisis is the cost of following the de-regulation trajectory for the last 30+ years.

That there are those on this board who see this crisis as the fault of Brown alone, and who also ridicule the idea that it started in America (it did with Reagonomics and the repeal of Glass Steagal) does not surprise me. Such a claque have to blame Brown and Brown alone and repeatedly. They need a pantomime villain - to do otherwise would be an admission that all their beliefs about how markets actually behave are founded on nothing more than dust.

Free market capitalism, like it's counter-part communism, is a lovely idea in theory but it fails the test of reality because it ignores human behaviour. What's good for the individual is not neessarily good for society and any ideology based on the belief that it's all Brown's fault is silly - if you ignore the structural problems with free-market thinking you can always find a scapegoat - but you won't stop the same problems coming-back repeatedly.

The gods of economics are angry let's have a sacrifice.

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Wrong on the first point and downhill from there - but I'm unlikely to disclose my views on a site which is mostly hostile to rational debate and where partisan representation of viewpoints is cherished more highly than factual information.

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Good post happy?.

Why hold back your views? At least you've got some, I don't know what to think half the time.

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With regard to your superior intellect -

quote " but I'm unlikely to disclose my views on a site which is mostly hostile to rational debate and where partisan representation of viewpoints is cherished more highly than factual information." end quote ----why bother to waste your time posting here?

Good question.

The answer, of course, is that the poster "happy?" is a Labour activist who has been assigned this forum to troll. Unfortunately, he's not alone :(.

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Good question.

The answer, of course, is that the poster "happy?" is a Labour activist who has been assigned this forum to troll. Unfortunately, he's not alone :(.

You live in a bizarre paranoid world Bruce.

I post here because I like doing so - not always but occasionally - I'm particularly proud of my honey badger thread.

I know you want everyone to hold you worldview - but it's never going to happen: partly because you're wrong on most factual points and the rest of your efforts (like the above) is simply trolling.

Unfortunately, you mistakenly believing trolling to synonymous with holding a contrary opinion to your groupthink - it isn't it's mostly about posting unsubstantiated guff - something you do well.

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You live in a bizarre paranoid world Bruce.

I post here because I like doing so - not always but occasionally - I'm particularly proud of my honey badger thread.

I know you want everyone to hold you worldview - but it's never going to happen: partly because you're wrong on most factual points and the rest of your efforts (like the above) is simply trolling.

Unfortunately, you mistakenly believing trolling to synonymous with holding a contrary opinion to your groupthink - it isn't it's mostly about posting unsubstantiated guff - something you do well.

I recently stumbled across the honey badger thread. A work of art.

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I know you think Labour can do no wrong but could you explain the reason behind Gordon's decision to sell off our gold for buttons? Did Margaret Thatcher make him do it? Gordon Brown had years of plenty and spent it buying votes by creating a big public sector.

I'm more than happy to respond to your post Doccy - have I ever avoided a point of value? There's nothing I disagree with about your central analysis re the gold sale, however you're missing the substantive point.

As I said, most of the analysis here looks toward identifying and parading scapegoats/heroes rather than wanting to analyse or understand the structural issues which drive the context in which those players operate. I've identified de-regulation as the root cause of the biggest collapse of the system since the 1920's. The whole trajectory of the political neo-liberalism of the last thirty years has been shown to be a failure with trillions of dollars wiped from the face of the earth.

We see ourselves jioning Japan in the lost decades, Australia, Spain, Italy, Ireland, Greece, struggling with massive debts as well as ourselves. The US is a basket case and the sum focus of your explanation is Gordon Brown selling gold on the cheap. If this alone were to account for our financial position where do the other developed economies sit in relation to your theory - what part did the New Labour triumvirate play in say California's woes.

I appreciate that this is not really an off-topic subject but the personal attacks on me do need a response.

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I recently stumbled across the honey badger thread. A work of art.

Thanks TBF - these important points need discussion on off-topic.

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Wrong on the first point

Do you think Brown got a good price for our gold then?

I post here because I like doing so - not always but occasionally

6,400 posts is occasional? There are some people who've been here since 2004 who haven't amassed that many.

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Do you think Brown got a good price for our gold then?

6,400 posts is occasional? There are some people who've been here since 2004 who haven't amassed that many.

But I only post under one identity - can you say that with any certainty about the others.

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We see ourselves jioning Japan in the lost decades, Australia, Spain, Italy, Ireland, Greece, struggling with massive debts as well as ourselves. The US is a basket case and the sum focus of your explanation is Gordon Brown selling gold on the cheap. If this alone were to account for our financial position

Excuse me, that is not what Doccyboy was saying. She was using the gold sell-off as a counter-argument to the idea that Gordon Brown "could do no wrong".

Given the way you twist things like a politician would, maybe you are a political troll.

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    1. 1. Including the effects Brexit, where do you think average UK house prices will be relative to now in June 2020?


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