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http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/also_in_the_news/8806560.stm

A pretty vociferous attack on Gordon/s record. Didn't say much at the time, did he. Many on here could see through Gordon Brown years ago but apparently the fiendishly intelligent and hugely articulate David M was taken in by the great man. Either that or perhaps he was just another devious little sycophant looking for the main chance. No end to Labour's odious machinations is there.

And Gordon seems to have disappeared. After this is he likely to remain disappeared?

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http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/also_in_the_news/8806560.stm

A pretty vociferous attack on Gordon/s record. Didn't say much at the time, did he. Many on here could see through Gordon Brown years ago but apparently the fiendishly intelligent and hugely articulate David M was taken in by the great man. Either that or perhaps he was just another devious little sycophant looking for the main chance. No end to Labour's odious machinations is there.

And Gordon seems to have disappeared. After this is he likely to remain disappeared?

Pathetic weazel.

Anyone who held a cabinet post over the last five years should be hung, drawn and quartered.

Bloody traitors to the british public.

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http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/also_in_the_news/8806560.stm

A pretty vociferous attack on Gordon/s record. Didn't say much at the time, did he. Many on here could see through Gordon Brown years ago but apparently the fiendishly intelligent and hugely articulate David M was taken in by the great man. Either that or perhaps he was just another devious little sycophant looking for the main chance. No end to Labour's odious machinations is there.

And Gordon seems to have disappeared. After this is he likely to remain disappeared?

"[Miliband] said: "I supported and voted for him. I agreed that we needed greater moral seriousness and less indifference to the excesses of a celebrity-drenched culture.'"

Voted for him? I didn't think there was anyone else in the running.

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Brown will forever be seen now by the left (and eventually by most people) as the man who, by his stubborness, allowed the dark forces of conservatism to be unleashed upon Britain once again. He will be blamed as much as the coalition for the hit that ordinary british people will be taking over the next 5 years. Milliband like any of the contenders for the Labour leadership will be distancing himself from Brown as far as possible as picking up the pieces of post coalition Britain will need to be undertaken by someone who, unlike Brown, can undertake radical reform of British society on behalf of a public who will by then be begging to ditch the mentality of the past 30 years in the same way that they wanted to in 1945.

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The Telegraph have this as well: David Miliband: 'Gordon Brown lacked moral seriousness and lost people's trust'.

One of the things they say (although they don't have a direct quote) is

In a bold move for a Labour leadership hopeful, Mr Miliband also accused the former leader of failing to reward the wealthy, while intervening to much in the state, and allowing officials to unnecessarily interfere in people’s lives.

Eh???

(1) I didn't think it was Labour's job to reward the wealthy

(2) Nonetheless, the wealthy seemed to be doing just fine under Labour.

What more was he wanting?

EDIT. What appears to be the text of Milliband's speech can be found here: http://www.davidmiliband.net/2010/07/09/keir-hardie-lecture-2010/ . After a quick skim, I don't see anything that supports the Telegraph's statement above.

Edited by Scunnered

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Brown will forever be seen now by the left (and eventually by most people) as the man who, by his stubborness, allowed the dark forces of conservatism to be unleashed upon Britain once again. He will be blamed as much as the coalition for the hit that ordinary british people will be taking over the next 5 years. Milliband like any of the contenders for the Labour leadership will be distancing himself from Brown as far as possible as picking up the pieces of post coalition Britain will need to be undertaken by someone who, unlike Brown, can undertake radical reform of British society on behalf of a public who will by then be begging to ditch the mentality of the past 30 years in the same way that they wanted to in 1945.

Brown will be known as the Labour Chancellor / Leader who bankrupted Britain again.... (really badly this time). He will be remembered for taking on an economy with stable finances, and yet managing to destroy them completely.

Why can apparantly intelligent Labour poiliticians and supporters not understand that if you want to keep spending (and adding stimulus) during an economic slowdown, you NEED to pay down debt during the good times.

Brown baked failure and economic ruin into the cake between 2001 and 2007 when he added £200,000,000,000 to the national debt instead of paying off a similar amount. Blinkered ideologues can not see that however, preferring to blame a global financial crisis that started in America.

The coalition will not be remembered fondly.....this would have been a good election to lose, bu make no mistake....this is Brown's mess!

Edited by Hip to be bear

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Tsk tsk. We've all done it. Blame the person, that's not here.

Knives are coming out.

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Brown will forever be seen now by the left (and eventually by most people) as the man who, by his stubborness, allowed the dark forces of conservatism to be unleashed upon Britain once again. He will be blamed as much as the coalition for the hit that ordinary british people will be taking over the next 5 years. Milliband like any of the contenders for the Labour leadership will be distancing himself from Brown as far as possible as picking up the pieces of post coalition Britain will need to be undertaken by someone who, unlike Brown, can undertake radical reform of British society on behalf of a public who will by then be begging to ditch the mentality of the past 30 years in the same way that they wanted to in 1945.

The thing that I find most perturbing about political choices is that fiscal and social policies seem to have to both be liberal or both be conservative. I think that voters feel most let down by the Blair / Brown era because the initial promise to be socially liberal and fiscally conservative dissolved into an attempt to legislate, regulate, speculate and borrow their way to prosperity.

The greatest sense of freedom that I have ever felt is the day that I no longer owed anyone any money.

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Labour under Brown almost took us back to the future (1984) in its Orwellian obsession with control and surveillance.

That Milliband served under such a regime and seeks to continue in public office is chilling. I agree with the previous comment that Brown and his henchmen/women should be prosecuted for treason in allowing our nation to become impoverished both economically and socially. We had a glimpse at a very ugly future under Brown.

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Brown will forever be seen now by the left (and eventually by most people) as the man who, by his stubborness, allowed the dark forces of conservatism to be unleashed upon Britain once again. He will be blamed as much as the coalition for the hit that ordinary british people will be taking over the next 5 years. Milliband like any of the contenders for the Labour leadership will be distancing himself from Brown as far as possible as picking up the pieces of post coalition Britain will need to be undertaken by someone who, unlike Brown, can undertake radical reform of British society on behalf of a public who will by then be begging to ditch the mentality of the past 30 years in the same way that they wanted to in 1945.

What are these dark forces of conservatism?

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What are these dark forces of conservatism?

I dunno, but I ran it through Google and it came back with this :-

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I guess the dark forces of conservatism would start endless foreign wars, reward the rich and bankers will bailouts then plunge the next generation into unrepayable debts, imagine that.

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Labour under Brown almost took us back to the future (1984) in its Orwellian obsession with control and surveillance. We had a glimpse at a very ugly future under Brown.

I would say it was a glimpse of a very ugly future under Labour, period.

Alan Johnson was on the news yesterday, still defending Section 44 of the Terrorism Act which allowed officers to stop and search anyone in a specific area for any reason – deemed illegal by the European Court of Human Rights.

Many thousands of completely innocent people were stopped, and/or detained.

Yet, even now Labour continue to defend their record. In the end, they will agree it was all a big mistake, get back into power, then do exactly the same. Or worse.

Maybe next time, they will attempt to introduce soviet style gulag camps in Berkshire?

What we need is some sort of Robespierre. And a real reckoning.

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I would say it was a glimpse of a very ugly future under Labour, period.

Alan Johnson was on the news yesterday, still defending Section 44 of the Terrorism Act which allowed officers to stop and search anyone in a specific area for any reason – deemed illegal by the European Court of Human Rights.

Many thousands of completely innocent people were stopped, and/or detained.

Yet, even now Labour continue to defend their record. In the end, they will agree it was all a big mistake, get back into power, then do exactly the same. Or worse.

Maybe next time, they will attempt to introduce soviet style gulag camps in Berkshire?

What we need is some sort of Robespierre. And a real reckoning.

AJ has a little hint of Hitler about him. My postman's just the same.

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AJ has a little hint of Hitler about him. My postman's just the same.

The 'job centre nazis' have excellent cross transferable skillsets, to 're-educate' the offenders.

And the 'Tip nazis' would make excellent gulag guards.

[Those 6 guys who sit outside the portakabin , drinking tea, watching to make sure that you do not mix the rubble with the green waste.#]

Ive seen one, damn near kill people for placing the electrical waste in the household waste skip.

HEIL!

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Britain is full of junked up little Hitlers' where there's a form or fine for everything, not to mention a deeply embedded surveillance culture, this could descend into something nasty very easily, at the moment they're just taking the incremental approach.

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Britain is full of junked up little Hitlers' where there's a form or fine for everything, not to mention a deeply embedded surveillance culture, this could descend into something nasty very easily, at the moment they're just taking the incremental approach.

David and Nicholas have indicated their willingness to address this. I'll believe it when I no longer see it.

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Jesus christ, and I thought they ran out of Bond Villains :-

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Mind you, at least he doesn't pretend his book isn't full of shit :-

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Everything seems to be shaping up nicely :-

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Who said crime doesn't pay?

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Jesus christ, and I thought they ran out of Bond Villains :-

Mind you, at least he doesn't pretend his book isn't full of shit :-

LOL I think they just turned up unannounced to do the ad and told him not to change :)

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Britain is full of junked up little Hitlers' where there's a form or fine for everything, not to mention a deeply embedded surveillance culture, this could descend into something nasty very easily, at the moment they're just taking the incremental approach.

Absolutely, this really needs to be addressed. The paranoia that this creates is not healthy for the nation - a nation of wardens and screws in a prison without walls (OK a little melodramatic, but you simply cannot just 'do' or organise things these days.)

I really want to see the state rolled back and common sense made fashionable again with some risk acceptable.

As for Banana Boy, what a weasle, he's the coward who could have done something to get rid of Brown in the day of resignations.

Anybody associated with the Brown regime should be 'hung, drawn and quartered' for what they have done to this county - economically and emotionally.

That there is no new/renewal candidate in the leadership battle shows that The Party are a spent force. They have nothing to say.

Postman Pat (AJ) still defending the indefensible.

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What are those grills for in the back of the bench? Is that how they keep them under control by pumping gas into the chamber?

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Maybe.

Edited by Scunnered

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They're speakers, the dear old Lords are often faint of hearing, so you often see them their lugs to those grills... or asleep.

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